Justice League Justice League: News and Speculation - - - - - Part 19

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[jokesonm3]

was this photo an actual scene or just Photoshop

Snyder: "See this image? You want this in the film? You want Superman to say something inspiring and hopeful during this moment in the film?"

Snyder: "lol, Nope."

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Ugh your post is both funny and sad.

 

[moviefreak]

I'm not asking him to make a sermon every 5 minutes, but I can't connect to a character who looks sad and pensive everytime. If the movie was Batman v Superman, then Superman should have had more of a voice of some kind like Batman, rather than meandering for most of the film. Show him at the breaking point of giving up, that he put his all into trying to change people's opinion of him. He showed those signs in MOS, where he refused to be controlled and monitored by the military. There was largely none of that in BvS.

One of the solutions that I thought of was having Superman giving an passionate, heartfelt speech in the Senate hearing before Senator Finch gave her responses, and then the sequence as shown in the BvS.

[BLACKOUT]The scene of him in the fire should be one of him screaming in angst -- similar to Kingdom Come.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[jokesonm3]

Ugh your post is both funny and sad.

That's becoming my catchphrase for the last couple of weeks.

 

[Val_Zod]

One of the solutions that I thought of was having Superman giving an passionate, heartfelt speech in the Senate hearing before Senator Finch gave her responses, and then the sequence as shown in the BvS.

[BLACKOUT]The scene of him in the fire should be one of him screaming in angst -- similar to Kingdom Come.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[OutOfBoose]

Look, we saw him screaming his guts out in two scenes in MoS. We don't need yet another one like that every time he experiences a tragedy. His reaction was perfect in BvS.

As for 0/2 or 2/2... I just look at people's voting on different resources. Where do you get your numbers? Critics isn't an indication. I never witnessed so much BS before I read "reviews" of Batman v Superman. Glimpses of reason were drowned in river of clueless hate.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

One of the solutions that I thought of was having Superman giving an passionate, heartfelt speech in the Senate hearing before Senator Finch gave her responses, and then the sequence as shown in the BvS.

[BLACKOUT]The scene of him in the fire should be one of him screaming in angst -- similar to Kingdom Come.[/BLACKOUT]

But if they did all of that and made the scene good they would have had to cut Batman's time and you can't do that.

 

[OutOfBoose]

But if they did all of that and made the scene good they would have had to cut Batman's time and you can't do that.

Yet another myth how Superman got shafted in the film... To make Batman have more screen time. Really?

 

[Logan0327]

i personally feel we did'nt need to see the senate scene the metropolis aftermatch was enough for superman backlash among the public

 

[Lucellit]

Look, we saw him screaming his guts out in two scenes in MoS. We don't need yet another one like that every time he experiences a tragedy. His reaction was perfect in BvS.

I already can see it. If Supes screamed in BvS, regardless how painful and full of emotion that scene was, people will ridicule and created new meme out of it. Just like infamous scream at the end of Zod tragedy.
And then people will anticipate his scream in JL to complete the trilogy.

i personally feel we did'nt need to see the senate scene the metropolis aftermatch was enough for superman backlash among the public

I agree. Especially after trailers made it seemed like the senate scene was the aftermath of Metropolis destruction.
The Africa and bullet subplot might work better in longer duration, but 2,5 hours apparently was not enough. The movie already too crowded as it is.

Edit: Oops, I misread.
What I hope for was the senate scene was directly happened as consequences of MoS ending.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yet another myth how Superman got shafted in the film... To make Batman have more screen time. Really?

Speaking of myths aren't you one of those pretending that a 69% second weekend competitionless drop doesn't point to poor word of mouth?

 

[BlueLanternKal]

i personally feel we did'nt need to see the senate scene the metropolis aftermatch was enough for superman backlash among the public

The Captiol scene served three purposes. It alienated Superman further from humanity to the point that he would kill Batman to save his mother. To push Batman over the edge to the point that he would commit premeditated murder. And finally so that Lex could get the licenses to import the kryptonite from India. It was all part of the plan...

 

[Rapunzel]

I liked BvS enough (7.5-8/10 for me). But of course there were many many ways the story could have been better...

It's futile now to play "if only" over BvS. I'm hoping for the best, and truly think if JL delivers a lot of the flaws of MoS/BvS will be forgiven.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

I'm just glad Snyder and Cavill actually addressed a Superman sequel. Makes me want to write like 300 scripts and send them to WB. One of them has to get approved, right?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked BvS enough (7.5-8/10 for me). But of course there were many many ways the story could have been better...

It's futile now to play "if only" over BvS. I'm hoping for the best, and truly think if JL delivers a lot of the flaws of MoS/BvS will be forgiven.

People (I was one of them) said that BvS would valadate perceived flaws in MOS and that didn't happen. JL won't deliver with the behind the scenes team they currently have in place.

 

[RadioSha]

The Captiol scene served three purposes. It alienated Superman further from humanity to the point that he would kill Batman to save his mother. To push Batman over the edge to the point that he would commit premeditated murder. And finally so that Lex could get the licenses to import the kryptonite from India. It was all part of the plan...

None of that played out though because he wasn't blamed for the bombing at all.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Speaking of myths aren't you one of those pretending that a 69% second weekend competitionless drop doesn't point to poor word of mouth?

I never experienced any opinion about why there's a 69% drop. I said it's nothing terrible. It's not a catastrophe.

Considering the nature of the film and critic bashing, I'm surprised it made that much.

 

[OutOfBoose]

The Captiol scene served three purposes. It alienated Superman further from humanity to the point that he would kill Batman to save his mother. To push Batman over the edge to the point that he would commit premeditated murder. And finally so that Lex could get the licenses to import the kryptonite from India. It was all part of the plan...

He didn't need that, he smuggled the rock.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I never experienced any opinion about why there's a 69% drop. I said it's nothing terrible. It's not a catastrophe.

Considering the nature of the film and critic bashing, I'm surprised it made that much.

B.S the drop is disasterous but certain fans of the film are completely unwilling to acknowledge reality.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

None of that played out though because he wasn't blamed for the bombing at all.

He was guilty by association. Remember when Knyazev kidnapped Ma Kent from the diner? TV personalities were blaming Superman because he disappeared since the explosion. Some were blaming him because he didn't prevent the explosion from happening. And finally he left because he knew he'd get blamed regardless of what he said to the news outlets.

 

[KillerWolf]

None of that played out though because he wasn't blamed for the bombing at all.

If nothing else, it pushed Batman over the edge. They were actually quite unsubtly bashing our head with the parallel of that being broadcasted on Wayne Ent. TV at the same time when Batman looks at the "you let your family die" picture of a ruined Wayne building.

It did get Supes out of the way as well, otherwise he would probably follow the trail to LexCorp before the plan gets to unfold (as crappy as Luthor's plan was).

 

[BlueLanternKal]

B.S the drop is disasterous but certain fans of the film are completely unwilling to acknowledge reality.

It maybe disastrous by Marvel Studios/Disney standards. Warner Bros. isn't Marvel Studios. Case in point, Deathly Hallows Pt 2. which sits at a 96% RT score since people love bringing that yardstick out.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It maybe disastrous by Marvel Studios/Disney standards. Warner Bros. isn't Marvel Studios. Case in point, Deathly Hallows Pt 2. which sits at a 96% RT score since people love bringing that yardstick out.

Harry Potter was the 8th movie in a long running franchise and it still made over a billion dollars, something that BvS has zero chance of doing.