Kanye finally snapped!

People would say the violence is uncalled for. That's ridiculous.

For you to even suggest that makes me think that you're in favor of reverse racism.

Nah, I just think the hatred toward Kanye is overkill.

But nice try though. :up:
 
If it was Bieber, it would be the same story.
 
Nah, I just think the hatred toward Kanye is overkill.

But nice try though. :up:

Nah, I'm just generally against the suppression of speech, even, or rather, especially, speech we don't like with violence.
 
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Anyone in that situation is wrong. I am a black man and I have been called the N-word to my face. I chose to not allow that person to get me wound up.
Did the kid call Kanye a ****** to his face? I was under the impression that he called Kim a n-lover and then she went back to told Kanye, which led to the beat down.
 
Acknowledging historical relevence.
I am thankful I never lived in a time or a place of blatant racism, but I think some people need to be reminded the time did exist (not too long ago) where it was okay to blatantly call a black person a racial slur to their face. Responding in anyway could have gotten you killed. You had to take it because those were the times.

My father lived during those times in Alabama, and he's been called a ****** to his face by many a white man, and he was expected to stand there and take it. Responding in anyway would have gotten him lynched, and the white folks who were calling by that name knew they had power over him...which was why they called him a ****** in the first place.

So please understand the word does have historical connotations that bring back a lot of bad memories, and no one should use it. Yet acting like it's just a word you should let roll off you is ridiculous. This especially sounds ridiculous from anyone who will never be called a ****** because you're white.

Plus I also feel I should mention a cracker is just a cracker. That's why it's not censored. Though...can anyone explain to me where that particular word came from as a racial slur toward white people?
 
Does it matter? An insult is an insult. Just because you aren't personally offended by the word c***, doesn't mean no one else is offended.

The point is, everyone gets offended by different words and that violence is not the best response to them. Blacks aren't allowed to beat people up if they're called the n-word, just like women aren't allowed to beat anyone up if they're called a c***, and so on. If we let some people use violence because they get insulted, we have to let everyone else.

For the record, I'm not talking about bullying or harassment. That's a different story. I'm referring to instances like this where someone shouts something in passing.

Of course violence isn't allowed. I'm not saying people should be allowed to beat other people legally (other than boxing and MMA) but fights do happen and some physical confrontations are more understandable than others IMO.

People fight for different reasons. Unless you're a complete pacifist you would have to judge the validity on a case by case basis.
 
Of course violence isn't allowed. I'm not saying people should be allowed to beat other people legally (other than boxing and MMA) but fights do happen and some physical confrontations are more understandable than others IMO.

People fight for different reasons. Unless you're a complete pacifist you would have to judge the validity on a case by case basis.

Or, you know, act like an adult.
 
I know what you mean. If I heard anyone use the word "serf", I would put a scythe through their face.

Well if you feel that connection with the past I wouldn't tell you your feelings were unwarranted.

That would be condescending. :cwink:
 
Plus I also feel I should mention a cracker is just a cracker. That's why it's not censored. Though...can anyone explain to me where that particular word came from as a racial slur toward white people?

I've heard it's because of the crack of a whip from the slave days.

But I don't know for sure.
 
Plus I also feel I should mention a cracker is just a cracker. That's why it's not censored. Though...can anyone explain to me where that particular word came from as a racial slur toward white people?

It came form the sound of the crack of a slavers whip. Sherman Hemsley's character George Jefferson made it popular on the T.V. Show "The Jeffersons" during 1975–1985. He also popularized the word Honky.
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Oh and a side note "The Jefferson" was a spin off of "All in the Family".
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Well if you feel that connection with the past I wouldn't tell you your feelings were unwarranted.

That would be condescending. :cwink:

Huh, that's weird. Especially since people here are saying that being called anything but the N word wouldn't bother them. Anything but that one.
 
I've heard it's because of the crack of a whip from the slave days.

But I don't know for sure.

It came form the sound of the crack of a slavers whip. Sherman Hemsley's character George Jefferson made it popular on the T.V. Show "The Jeffersons" during 1975–1985. He also popularized the world Honky.
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Oh and a side note "The Jefferson" was a spin off of "All in the Family".
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Thank you guys! I had heard something similar...
 
When one person of any race calls another person of any race any kind of derogatory name, they're doing it to demean and insult them.
Well, yeah. I was talking about when some black people use the word ***** amongst themselves.
 
Im just curious and this isnt directed at anyone in particular, is it ok when a jew beast an anti semite bloody for being racist? Is it ok when a Native American beats up a white person for calling them a ***skin.

Both groups have suffered horribly and yet ive never seen this kind of violence from them. I get it it hurts being called such awful things, but violence in return isnt the answer. African americans arent the only group of people who have been enslaved or tortured in recent history. The Native Americans had genocide commited against them. The jews did as well, but both groups stay composed in the face of hatred. Least thats what ive witnessed from them. Not trying to demean one group's suffering in comparison to another. They all suffered and this is a point that i have seen brought up.
 
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Except that he was being sarcastic.

No they were serious. That was the only word that is excusable to assault someone over...because...history n stuff.

Several others said the same, and I'm saying that's ridiculous.
 
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Im pretty sure Drake is softer.

Well I did say "one of" and Drake is bigger. :p

Yep, and this opens up the door for other people looking for a quick pay day. Like i mentioned, these two -Kim and Kayne- should have known better than to take the bait.

Exactly, especially since Kanye wasn't even there when it happened so he didn't react in the heat of the moment, she actually actively went and told him and they then went looking to do what was done, the chunk of change he'll be paying out will be huge, Kanye will just continue to be the moron he is and Kim the plastic phony she is, and the world will move on with a precedent set that puts other more rational celebs in a difficult spot.
 
Im just curious and this isnt directed at anyone in particular, is it ok when a jew beast an anti semite bloody for being racist? Is it ok when a Native American beats up a white person for calling them a ***skin.

Both groups have suffered horribly and yet ive never seen this kind of violence from them. I get it it hurts being called such awful things, but violence in return isnt the answer. African americans arent the only group of people who have been enslaved or tortured in recent history. The Native Americans had genocide commited against them. The jews did as well, but both groups stay composed in the face of hatred. Least thats what ive witnessed from the
. Not trying to demean one group's suffering in comparison to another. They all suffered and this is a point that i have seen brought up.
Seriously. This is pretty offensive and ignorant. Youre saying black americans dont have the fortitude to not strike back with violence in the face of bigotry. So did you forget about MLK and the whole civil rights movement?

Oh and here are some jews that have resorted to violence against anti semites.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175536
 
Exactly, especially since Kanye wasn't even there when it happened so he didn't react in the heat of the moment, she actually actively went and told him and they then went looking to do what was done, the chunk of change he'll be paying out will be huge, Kanye will just continue to be the moron he is and Kim the plastic phony she is, and the world will move on with a precedent set that puts other more rational celebs in a difficult spot.
That's the part of this I find the most interesting. It doesn't actually seem he was ever called the dastardly word to his face. She was insulted and went and got him...and riled him up. I can't really see it any other way. The kid shouldn't have said it, but I have issue with the way this all went down.
 
Seriously. This is pretty offensive and ignorant. Youre saying black americans dont have the fortitude to not strike back with violence in the face of bigotry. So did you forget about MLK and the whole civil rights movement?

Oh and here are some jews that have resorted to violence against anti semites.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175536

Where did i say what you claim i said? Please point to those exact words. Im tired of people reading a post and seeing something thats not there. No where did i imply that african americans are incapable of controlling themselves. My curiosity was if the people cheering on kanye or giving him a pass would be ok with a jew beating an anti semite or a native american beating a white person. I want to know whether they are biased towards one racism or if they are ok with violence as an answer to all racism.

And honestly thank you for the link. This kind of stuff never gets reported locally. And ive never witnessed it like i said.
 
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Where did i say what you claim i said? Please point to those exact words. Im tired of people reading a post and seeing something thats not there. No where did i imply that african americans are incapable of controlling themselves. My curiosity was if the people cheering on kanye or giving him a pass would be ok with a jew beating an anti semite or a native american beating a white person. I want to know whether they are biased towards one racism or if they are ok with violence as an answer to all racism.

And honestly thank you for the link. This kind of stuff never gets reported locally. And ive never witnessed it like i said.

I don't think any of those factors matter, because every race is going to have people who act like children and can't control themselves. I think all we are saying(at least I am) is that these people need to grow the f up and act like adults and not let some magically powered words cause them to lose control to *****ebags who are actively trying to provoke them.
 
I don't think any of those factors matter, because every race is going to have people who act like children and can't control themselves. I think all we are saying(at least I am) is that these people need to grow the f up and act like adults and not let some magically powered words cause them to lose control to *****ebags who are actively trying to provoke them.

I feel the same way i just wanted to get some to stop and question whether they are biased towards one racism and why they might be. In all cases i feel violence is the wrong response to a word. Yeah sometimes those emotions take over and i get that but emotions or not its not the right[/] response so it shouldnt be promoted as a response.
 
I don't think any of those factors matter, because every race is going to have people who act like children and can't control themselves. I think all we are saying(at least I am) is that these people need to grow the f up and act like adults and not let some magically powered words cause them to lose control to *****ebags who are actively trying to provoke them.
Magically powered words...what is this ****. Racial epithets cut deeper than your typical insults. Anyone can be called an idiot or *****ebag or ahole if their behavior warrants the insult. But when you call someone the n word youre specifically targeting and demeaning a person solely because of his race. Not his personality, behavior or stupid thing he did, but because of the color of his skin. You know what Im saying? You can easily stop people from calling you an idiot or *****ebag or ahole simply by changing your behavior or being smarter. How do you stop someone from calling you the n word as a black person?
 

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