Kanye finally snapped!

[MessiahDecoy123]

Im just curious and this isnt directed at anyone in particular, is it ok when a jew beast an anti semite bloody for being racist? Is it ok when a Native American beats up a white person for calling them a ***skin.

Both groups have suffered horribly and yet ive never seen this kind of violence from them. I get it it hurts being called such awful things, but violence in return isnt the answer. African americans arent the only group of people who have been enslaved or tortured in recent history. The Native Americans had genocide commited against them. The jews did as well, but both groups stay composed in the face of hatred. Least thats what ive witnessed from them. Not trying to demean one group's suffering in comparison to another. They all suffered and this is a point that i have seen brought up.

I'm not against anyone throwing blows to defend their dignity.

It keeps people from spouting trash in most cases.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

Magically powered words...what is this ****. Racial epithets cut deeper than your typical insults.

Only if you let them.

Anyone can be called an idiot or *****ebag or ahole if their behavior warrants the insult. But when you call someone the n word youre specifically targeting and demeaning a person solely because of his race. Not his personality, behavior or stupid thing he did, but because of the color of his skin. You know what Im saying? You can easily stop people from calling you an idiot or *****ebag or ahole simply by changing your behavior or being smarter. How do you stop someone from calling you the n word as a black person?

You can't stop anyone from calling you anything. You can only control how you react to it.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

I'm not against anyone throwing blows to defend their dignity.

It keeps people from spouting trash in most cases.

Cool, so no one will ever say such things ever again then!

 

[Feenix]

I'm not against anyone throwing blows to defend their dignity.

It keeps people from spouting trash in most cases.

But, in this case, it just made the kid rich.

Which is probably the exact opposite of what Kanye wanted.

Anyone who thinks that this kid learned his lesson because Kanye pummeled him clearly has no idea what trolling is.

At the end of the day, Kanye didn't defend Kim's honor or teach anyone a lesson, he just made more trouble for himself and gave fame to someone who should have just been an un-named idiot.

 

[Asgard]

Only if you let them.

Are you white? If so, then thats really easy for you to say. Kind of hard for minorities to let racial slurs slide off of their backs like its nothing though.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

Are you white? If so, then thats really easy for you to say. Kind of hard for minorities to let racial slurs slide off of their backs like its nothing though.

Why? Why let these aholes who use the word have that much power over you still?

It IS nothing, or should be nothing to you, just like the strangers they are. Until you give it the power they were looking for.

 

[Asgard]

Why? Why let these aholes who use the word have that much power over you still?

It IS nothing, or should be nothing to you, just like the strangers they are. Until you give it the power they were looking for.

Uh, maybe if we lived in a world where everyone is the most self assured version of themselves with superhuman levels of self confidence all the time, then yeah, I can see people ignoring insults like they were nothing. But thats fantasy. In reality, people get offended when someone demeans them or insults them. Do you not understand how people work?

And no racial epithets arent nothing. If someone calls me a racial slur I will call them out on that ****. I wouldnt even have to be offended to do so either. You cant let people get a free pass with racism.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

Uh, maybe if we lived in a world where everyone is the most self assured version of themselves with superhuman levels of self confidence all the time, then yeah, I can see people ignoring insults like they were nothing. But thats fantasy.

Being an adult is not fantasy. It's interesting you feel this way.

In reality, people get offended when someone demeans them or insults them. Do you not understand how people work?

I do. And apparently all I need to do to set you off and play into my game is say a single word.

And no racial epithets arent nothing.

They are when you treat them as you should and ignore them.

If someone calls me a racial slur I will call them out on that ****. I wouldnt even have to be offended to do so either. You cant let people get a free pass with racism.

You shouldn't let racists get the better of you either. And giving their words acknowledgement or even the time of day is letting them win. Ignore idiots whenever possible.

 

[Smashlilman]

Im just curious and this isnt directed at anyone in particular, is it ok when a jew beast an anti semite bloody for being racist? Is it ok when a Native American beats up a white person for calling them a ***skin.

Both groups have suffered horribly and yet ive never seen this kind of violence from them. I get it it hurts being called such awful things, but violence in return isnt the answer. African americans arent the only group of people who have been enslaved or tortured in recent history. The Native Americans had genocide commited against them. The jews did as well, but both groups stay composed in the face of hatred. Least thats what ive witnessed from them. Not trying to demean one group's suffering in comparison to another. They all suffered and this is a point that i have seen brought up.

Native American teenagers and young adults have beat up strangers for even comming onto there reservations.

 

[Asgard]

Being an adult is not fantasy. It's interesting you feel this way.

No the fantasy is this world where people never get offended or have their feelings hurt or get angry or react in any way other than complete indifference to people who treat them badly.

I do. And apparently all I need to do to set you off and play into my game is say a single word.

How am I set off exactly? Is it because I react negatively to racism?

You shouldn't let racists get the better of you either. And giving their words acknowledgement or even the time of day is letting them win. Ignore idiots whenever possible.

How are you letting racists get the better of you when you let them know their words and behavior are inappropriate and wrong? They get the better of you when you let them slide with their bs. Let me ask you something. If someone in a position of authority like your boss displays racist behavior or spews racist slurs at you or colleagues, it would be best to just ignore the behavior and keep it moving because by confronting his racism, you would be letting him win?

 

[Hal_Jordan]

No the fantasy is this world where people never get offended or have their feelings hurt or get angry or react in any way other than complete indifference to people who treat them badly.

Why do you care what some random stranger says to you?

How am I set off exactly? Is it because I react negatively to racism?

If you feel the need to physically attack a complete stranger for calling you a name, you have a problem.

How are you letting racists get the better of you when you let them know their words and behavior are inappropriate and wrong? They get the better of you when you let them slide with their bs. Let me ask you something. If someone in a position of authority like your boss displays racist behavior or spews racist slurs at you or colleagues, it would be best to just ignore the behavior and keep it moving because by confronting his racism, you would be letting him win?

They are trying to get at you...they are trolling you, and you give them exactly what they want, a response. Ignore them and render them and their words impotent.

Bosses and work related are completely different situations from what I've been talking about this whole time. But ignoring is still the best way to deal with bigots, because you aren't going to change their minds.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Why do you care what some random stranger says to you?


If you feel the need to physically attack a complete stranger for calling you a name, you have a problem.



They are trying to get at you...they are trolling you, and you give them exactly what they want, a response. Ignore them and render them and their words impotent.

Bosses and work related are completely different situations from what I've been talking about this whole time. But ignoring is still the best way to deal with bigots, because you aren't going to change their minds.

You keep using the word trolling but it's an internet term. It's an online way of antagonizing someone. You clearly can't accept the way of having to smack someone around who's being an ******* towards your face but stop talking like it's the worst thing in the world to hit someone who says something so degrading towards you or a loved one.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

You keep using the word trolling but it's an internet term. It's an online way of antagonizing someone. You clearly can't accept the way of having to smack someone around who's being an ******* towards your face but stop talking like it's the worst thing in the world to hit someone who says something so degrading towards you or a loved one.

Trolling, antagonizing, same thing. It's semantics.

You don't HAVE to smack anyone around who's being an ahole...and what if you can't?

And it isn't the worst thing in the world to hit someone for calling you names, but it is pretty damn childish and pathetic to be allowed to let yourself be dragged down to their level.(which is what they are trying to do by calling you names in the first place/trolling).

 

[batsone]

i post this as a mixed race, skinny ass, you don't belong here, nerd. At the end of the day it's just words.

 

[regwec]

I'm not against anyone throwing blows to defend their dignity.

It keeps people from spouting trash in most cases.

Who exactly emerged from this with any dignity? The kid has revealed himself to be an idiot, Kim Kardashian comes across as even more cheap (if that's possible) and we now know that Kanye is monumentally insecure as well as immature and not very bright.

Things like this demean everybody. Had the couple given the kid a lecture about love being colour blind, the world might be an ever so slightly better place as a result.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Who exactly emerged from this with any dignity? The kid has revealed himself to be an idiot, Kim Kardashian comes across as even more cheap (if that's possible) and we now know that Kanye is monumentally insecure as well as immature and not very bright.

Things like this demean everybody. Had the couple given the kid a lecture about love being colour blind, the world might be an ever so slightly better place as a result.

Why does Kim Kardashian come off as cheap?

Kanye is insecure because the N-word bothers him?

No your confusing insecurity with self-respect. Back in the day whites said the N-word in black people's faces and they had to bow their heads and walk away. That is one of the most humiliating things a grown adult can experience and that's how you want blacks to respond today? It ain't happening!

Again compare how often people use the N-word on X-box Live without any deterrent to reality where they know they'll get punched in the face. One has a steady stream of N-words and the other doesn't.

 

[regwec]

Why does Kim Kardashian come off as cheap?

Specifically or in general? Firstly, because responding to ignorant name calling by getting your boyfriend to beat up the name caller is cheap and classless. Secondly...I'm not sure there's time, suffice to say that she is a noted vulgarian and exhibitionist.

Kanye is insecure because the N-word bothers him?

Try harder. He beat this kid up. That's rather an excessive manifestation of being "bothered". He demonstrated his insecurity because he let this stupid little kid get to him in such a way that led him to become highly emotional and commit an act of common criminality. All that fame and money, and all it took was an ignorant verbal prod from one idiot.

No your confusing insecurity with self-respect. Back in the day whites said the N-word in black people's faces and they had to bow their heads and walk away.

Allowing someone to get under your skin, and committing a criminal act as a result, demonstrates no self respect.

That is one of the most humiliating things a grown adult can experience and that's how you want blacks to respond today? It ain't happening!

Either you are illiterate or that is a truly crass attempt at distortion.

Again compare how often people use the N-word on X-box Live without any deterrent to reality where they know they'll get punched in the face. One has a steady stream of N-words and the other doesn't.

I know nothing about Xbox, but it is generally the case that people find it easier to be rude at a distance. I'm not sure what broader observation you are trying to make.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Specifically or in general? Firstly, because responding to ignorant name calling by getting your boyfriend to beat up the name caller is cheap and classless. Secondly...I'm not sure there's time, suffice to say that she is a noted vulgarian and exhibitionist.

Well the argument was made that the fight somehow made Kardasian cheap.

All she did was inform her fiance that she was insulted and possibly threatened. That doesn't make her cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

THe idea that she told her fiance to beat someone up is pure speculation.

Try harder. He beat this kid up. That's rather an excessive manifestation of being "bothered". He demonstrated his insecurity because he let this stupid little kid get to him in such a way that led him to become highly emotional and commit an act of common criminality. All that fame and money, and all it took was an ignorant verbal prod from one idiot.

Of course it's more than being bothered. The "kid" used the worse insult you can call a black man. You expect Kanye to sheepishly accept but blacks were forced to do that for centuries and it was incredibly dehumanizing. If you want to ignore that and keep calling Kanye highly emotional then maybe you need to "try harder".

Allowing someone to get under your skin, and committing a criminal act as a result, demonstrates no self respect.

Self-respect isn't determined by docile obedience to the law.

Either you are illiterate or that is a truly crass attempt at distortion.

I could say you're historically illiterate if you want to sling mud. You may pretend I've said something distorted but blacks did have to reluctantly sit back and listen to whites call them the N-word and it wasn't dignified then and it's not dignified now.

I know nothing about Xbox, but it is generally the case that people find it easier to be rude at a distance. I'm not sure what broader observation you are trying to make.

Not familiar with the racism on X-box Live, huh?

Well head over to the TMZ Kanye article and read the comments. You'll see the difference between a forum where racist language is accepted and here where deterrents are in place.

The point is there needs to be deterrents.

 

[newbrando]

Well it looks like the cops don't see what Kanye did as that big of a deal. They are saying they might give him a misdemeanor charge or nothing at all. http://m.laweekly.com/los-angeles/b...emeanor&day=16&id=informer&month=01&year=2014

I find it interesting that people are so critical of what Kanye did. At other sites, a lot of people are confused more by this 18 year old. Apparently at first he acted as if he was defending Kim, telling the paps to stop harassing her, but he was calling the paps the n-word. Who does that? In the middle of LA where there are tons of minorities? Kim told him nicely to stop using the n-word, which at least she comes off as a human being here for trying to diffuse the situation. Then the kid turns on her and starts using it on her. Again, why did he think a woman who is known for dating black men wouldn't be offended by his use of the n-word to begin with? I just don't understand why he chose to follow her and defend her if he knows she dates black people and he hates black people. Smh.

He literally and figurative got a slap in the face when everybody involved turned on him when he cried afterwards. It will be very difficult for him to file a suit if the police won't even charge Kanye and he will forever be known as a stupid racist.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's all about expectations.

If some white people know they can say the N-word directly toward blacks and get away with it they're going to do so unremittingly. This has been proven true historically in the south and currently on the internet.

 

[regwec]

Well the argument was made that the fight somehow made Kardasian cheap.

All she did was inform her fiance that she was insulted and possibly threatened. That doesn't make her cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

I assumed her comments to him were cause of the assault that followed. Maybe they weren't.

Of course it's more than being bothered. The "kid" used the worse insult you can call a black man. You expect Kanye to sheepishly accept but blacks were forced to do that for centuries and it was incredibly dehumanizing. If you want to ignore that and keep calling Kanye highly emotional then maybe you need to "try harder".

No, I'm sorry but you can't just cast baseless aspersions like that. You are attempting to insinuate that I believe that "blacks" should yield to aggression or incivility from white people. I have said nothing of the sort. All I am saying is that the same standard of behaviour should be expected of each of us.

Self-respect isn't determined by docile obedience to the law.

I don't think I have required anybody to be "docile". There were, however, countless ways in which Kanye could have responded in a lawful way. You appear to be implying that, as a black man who was (by hearsay) called a N-----, Kanye couldn't have reacted in any way other than with violence. I find that racist, and I know that it isn't accurate.

I could say you're historically illiterate if you want to sling mud. You may pretend I've said something distorted but blacks did have to reluctantly sit back and listen to whites call them the N-word and it wasn't dignified then and it's not dignified now.

Are you reading anything to which you respond? I suggested that you may be illiterate because you cast the baseless aspersion that I wanted "blacks" to "bow their heads and walk away". I didn't, nor would I. The only reason I have not found your comment hurtful is because it was so completely ridiculous and unfounded.

Not familiar with the racism on X-box Live, huh?

Well head over to the TMZ Kanye article and read the comments. You'll see the difference between a forum where racist language is accepted and here where deterrents are in place.

The point is there needs to be deterrents.

I'll take your word for it.

 

[Teelie]

That's how he deters any serious questioning of his posts. By insinuating you're racist or that you think black people are inferior. It's why I stopped responding to his completely out of context replies.

 

[Hal_Jordan]

It's all about expectations.

If some white people know they can say the N-word directly toward blacks and get away with it they're going to do so unremittingly. This has been proven true historically in the south and currently on the internet.

You keep saying this as if it's going to make it true. I'm pretty sure everyone knows that the N word is the worst thing you can say to a black person. It's why people say it. To get under your skin as much as possible. Racists are going to(and obviously still do) use it regardless of any possible repercussions.

It's kind of like how the death penalty doesn't really stop some people committing murder.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

I assumed her comments to him were cause of the assault that followed. Maybe they weren't.

The kid was first yelling at the paps that were following kim, using the N-word. Kim then told him to stop saying that. That's when the kid turned on her instead.Aside from calling her N*** lover, he also reportedly told KIm: 'i'll kill you!"...or something like that.

 

[Feenix]

The kid was first yelling at the paps that were following kim, using the N-word. Kim then told him to stop saying that. That's when the kid turned on her instead.Aside from calling her N*** lover, he also reportedly told KIm: 'i'll kill you!"...or something like that.

According to her. I don't believe anything that any Kardashian says, and since it was almost a full day later that the "news" started reporting that he threatened to kill her, I'm going with this whole thing being a set up.

And if it's not, it still doesn't mean Kanye should have beat the kid up. Kanye lost in this scenario. He won't stop people using the N-word, he made the kid rich, and he gave him 15 minutes of fame.