terry78
My name is Stefan, sweet thang
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He's achieved a near impossible task keeping all those plates spinning at Marvel. Star Wars is a very different animal, and there are certainly a few MCU tropes that I'd hate to see cross over, but I think Fiege is smart enough to treat this differently. He's earned the benefit of the doubt for now.
I think Fiege has demonstrated some level of vision. He's adapting material, sure, but it's being spun in all kinds of directions, updated, reinvented and all within a much larger story. I'd argue he has just about the right amount of vision you want out of a producer.
Not to be a total contrarian, but I'd also argue that Filoni would be a bad choice to put in charge of things. No disrespect to the guy, seems lovely and his contribution to Star Wars is undeniable, but his strengths have been in filling gaps, expanding on loose threads, papering over holes and incorporating EU. He's done tremendous things while he was at it, but he's always building with the same existing blocks. I'm not sure he's truly displayed vision. Filoni was a pupil of George Lucas. He basically dramatized the word of god making Clone Wars. I don't think that necessarily makes him the guy to succeed Lucas and further the story, more that he is the most devout to the Star Wars text. I bet Filoni-led Star Wars would be a total fan service machine.
He's valuable regardless. I feel like I'm being mean to the guy. He's done some genuinely great Star Wars stuff and I think he's a valuable asset, and should be somewhere high-ish in the ranks. But he's also a fun storyteller so I think it would be a waste to lumber him with too much franchise management.
Admittedly, my bias is showing as I am ultimately not a huge MCU fan at the end of the day. I've definitely enjoyed a good bunch of the individual films (Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Ragnarok, etc.), but overall I think it just all averaged out to extremely mediocre as an aggregate. You raise some solid points as to why Filoni may be of better use just working on content as opposed to running the whole mythos.
I'm not saying Fiege isn't a good producer-- what he did was unprecedented. No arguments there. But I am saying that I like the idea of someone who is an actual creative and storyteller themselves, like Lucas, to have more overall influence on the direction Star Wars goes as opposed to somebody who's already more entrenched on the high level business side of things. I don't know, I've always just gotten a very cold, "all business" sort of vibe from Fiege and I feel like that reflects in the overall uniformity of the MCU (in terms of visual style, music, etc). Very efficient, gets the job done, but it often feels perfunctory and like it's checking boxes IMO. When Filoni talks about Star Wars you can see the warmth and passion radiate off of him. I'm more comfortable with Filoni because I know that he's somebody who actually intimately understands George's intentions and is already pretty deeply embedded in the DNA of Star Wars. Fiege is an unknown element because I just don't have any read on how he views Star Wars. He could be coming in with a "I know what's best for this franchise" sort of attitude, and I'm wary of that. Filoni has earned his spot and that job should be his if he wants it IMO (if he doesn't-- totally fair game). I just don't like the idea people cutting in front of him just because they're higher on the Hollywood food chain, that's all. Especially if this is some sort of power jockeying situation with Iger involved (some of Iger's decisions poisoned the ST from the start as far as I'm concerned).
I'm not saying Fiege isn't a good producer-- what he did was unprecedented. No arguments there. But I am saying that I like the idea of someone who is an actual creative and storyteller themselves, like Lucas, to have more overall influence on the direction Star Wars goes as opposed to somebody who's already more entrenched on the high level business side of things. I don't know, I've always just gotten a very cold, "all business" sort of vibe from Fiege and I feel like that reflects in the overall uniformity of the MCU (in terms of visual style, music, etc). Very efficient, gets the job done, but it often feels perfunctory and like it's checking boxes IMO.
For all the talk that Lucas is a better visionary than Feige I would take a hundred Infinity War Sagas over one Prequel Saga or Sequel Trilogy (post-Lucas SW).
Lastly, I find it funny that people say the MCU creatives won't translate well to Star Wars when the main creator of the Mandalorian also directed Iron Man.
And Taika directed an episode to boot!
I agree with this assessment here. And I see Feige as being more of the captain of the ship, steering the franchise in the right direction and ensuring it doesn't go off the rails. That's where he excels. He has the vision of the larger mission, and like any good captain, he'll leave the navigation, weapons, communication etc to his expert support staff. That's where Filoni and Favreau and other creators coming in as the creative thrust. Like the Russo Bros, they don't run the entire ship, they just perform their duties.
The OT indeed had a lot more collaboration than the subsequent trilogies and that led to its success, but I don't think this point can be emphasized enough: Lucas, at best, is a very average director and writer, he knew this, and he found people whom he trusted that could carry his vision to the page and screen better than he could. People who knew the craft of filmmaking and could allow him to sit back and flex his creativity from an management perspective.Totally agree. Personally, I don't think it's even a good idea for the weight of an entire massive franchise to be resting on one person's shoulders, which I think was part of the problem with the Prequels.
Lucas was at his best when he could delegate directing duties (like with Empire), while still retaining control over the overall direction of the franchise.
First off, Marvel has a formula that resulted in the most successful ending in movie history. Compare the success of Endgame to Mockingjay 2 or Rise of Skywalker. This is exactly what Star Wars needs, a master planner with a clear, overall strategy: a winning formula.
Second, Kevin Feige is getting better not worse (looking at you JJ Abrams). Remember, the MCU didn't hit its stride until Phase 3. Phase 3 has the lion share of MCU's greatest films.
Lastly, I find it funny that people say the MCU creatives won't translate well to Star Wars when the main creator of the Mandalorian also directed Iron Man.
There's a difference between whether Star Wars under Feige would be successful and whether I personally would be happy with it, and personally I think the MCU got worse instead of better.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Feige is already overseeing Marvel, including TV shows now. Is it a good idea for him to be overseeing two big franchises at once?
I think we could see a case of being stretched too thin. As Fincher pointed out, he's now running TV for Marvel seeing as Jeph Loeb and "Marvel Television" is no longer doing live action TV shows.