The Dark Knight Rises Killer Croc

[Mr. Earle]

1) Jesus Christ that's disgusting.
2) I'd rather if Croc is like Manbat. A crocodile like mutant, instead of a big guy with ugly skin. You can keep your realism.

 

[Rodrigo90]

1) Jesus Christ that's disgusting.
2) I'd rather if Croc is like Manbat. A crocodile like mutant, instead of a big guy with ugly skin. You can keep your realism.

Hahaha.

But that is what he suffers from.

 

[Rodrigo90]

This is the result Epidermolytic Hyperkeratosis,the disease which Croc has.

A REAL DISEASE. Which is not unrealistic at all.

Poor sods.

 

[Drz]

I'd love to have Michael Clark Duncan play as Killer Croc.

 

[KalMart]

Honestly, I'd rather see a more fantasy-like reptilian character in different appropriately-styled cinematic take on Batman, than someone with a horrible skin condition in these movies just because it's more like an 'original' comic version of whatever.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I'd rather if Croc is like Manbat. A crocodile like mutant, instead of a big guy with ugly skin. You can keep your realism.

Honestly, I'd rather see a more fantasy-like reptilian character in different appropriately-styled cinematic take on Batman, than someone with a horrible skin condition in these movies just because it's more like an 'original' comic version of whatever.

I agree with you both very much. It's doubtful Nolan will loosen his stance on things being realistic, but you never know. I'd love to see him bring the likes of Man-Bat, Croc, Freeze, etc. into his films without toning them down. I know he could do them great justice and give them serious portrayals.

 

[ronny]

Is Killer Croc actually an African-American? Or has that never really been stated?

 

[Punisher Rising]

He was portrayed as such in The Joker Hardcover, not sure if he was portrayed that way in other comics or media.

 

[Drz]

He was portrayed as such in The Joker Hardcover, not sure if he was portrayed that way in other comics or media.

Yep. It's nowdays a forgotten fact he is black. ^^; Even i found out about it first thru the Joker novel.

 

[KalMart]

I agree with you both very much. It's doubtful Nolan will loosen his stance on things being realistic, but you never know. I'd love to see him bring the likes of Man-Bat, Croc, Freeze, etc. into his films without toning them down. I know he could do them great justice and give them serious portrayals.

I think Nolan should finish out this Batman series the ay he sees fit, as it's worked the way it has so far. Let another filmmaker restart and take a different approach that stylistically allows for a more fantastic take.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I'd really like to see a more monster-like Croc in Nolan's films. I think his hyper-realism approach will get dull after a while, and the likes of villains like Man-Bat, Freeze, a monstrous Croc, etc. would freshen things up and keep them exciting. I think if he took a similar approach to what TAS did with these characters, it'd be phenominal to see onscreen. Which is kind of what I'd really like to see for the third film, a live-action TAS set in Nolan's world.

 

[KalMart]

I'd really like to see a more monster-like Croc in Nolan's films. I think his hyper-realism approach will get dull after a while, and the likes of villains like Man-Bat, Freeze, a monstrous Croc, etc. would freshen things up and keep them exciting. I think if he took a similar approach to what TAS did with these characters, it'd be phenominal to see onscreen. Which is kind of what I'd really like to see for the third film, a live-action TAS set in Nolan's world.

But that 'realism" (I prefer to call it practicality) IS his approach to this. If you want another approach, then it should be another filmmaker who wants to do it from the get-go....instead of asking this one to change it.

 

[Rodrigo90]

That disease works brilliantly for Nolans world.

 

[Piuchén]

This is the result Epidermolytic Hyperkeratosis,the disease which Croc has.

A REAL DISEASE. Which is not unrealistic at all.

That sounded like the Mary Poppins song.

I like this anyway, I know some people doesn't like "Nolanism" but the original Killer Croc wasn't the giant Lizzard we saw in Arkham's game.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Will you guys stop reposting that picture? FFS!

 

[Punisher Rising]

But that 'realism" (I prefer to call it practicality) IS his approach to this. If you want another approach, then it should be another filmmaker who wants to do it from the get-go....instead of asking this one to change it.

I'd like to see him loosen his stance on it though, to do justice to the more fantasy-oriented villains in Batman's world. He could portray them greatly without going too overboard or making a mockery out of them.

 

[KalMart]

I'd like to see him loosen his stance on it though, to do justice to the more fantasy-oriented villains in Batman's world. He could portray them greatly without going too overboard or making a mockery out of them.

Well, if that's not what he wants to do, then he shouldn't just to do that stuff 'justice'. I think he's doing more than enough justice for the stuff he actually is using by making the films he is....the way he wants to. We can either take his reinterpretation as he presents it, or leave it and look to someone else who's more along those lines...but we shouldn't ask him or his version to change.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I'm not saying he should change his vision, just that I'd like to see him mix it up a bit to keep things fresh and exciting.

 

[KalMart]

I think a brand new storyline will be more than fresh and exciting enough. 'Easing up' on the realism or what have you is kinda' like asking Scorcese to make Goodfellas more operatic like Godfather or Angels With Dirty Faces, or Raging Bull more like Rocky. Everything is part of his style and approach, so he's not going to change it when it's how he does it. So instead of having him compromise that, better to have another filmmaker with another vision do it that way from the get-go when they restart.m I know that Nolan's take may not be 'comic-booky' enough for some...but it's only one version, and it should have consistency. He uses that as a great asset to his particular version. They can do plenty of other versions in the future with other filmmakers and stories.

Down the road, I'd like to see a Del Toro or the like do a more straight-up fantasy version of Batman in which a reptilian Killer Croc or a Clayface would be a natural fit...and I won't be hoping that he eases up on the fantasy to make it feel more realistic.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I'm just saying it'd be good if Nolan would allow more fantasy elements in his approach to things and not be limited by the hyper-realism, even if it is a huge part of his style and approach to his Batman films. He doesn't have to do it for the third film, but I think come the fourth if he's still onboard for the series, it'd be good to see him mix things up a bit.

 

[KalMart]

I'm just saying it'd be good if Nolan would allow more fantasy elements in his approach to things and not be limited by the hyper-realism, even if it is a huge part of his style and approach to his Batman films.

But it's not a limit in his case...it's an asset for the sake of doing the films he wants to do, even if it doesn't fit certain characters from the comic lore or what have you. It doesn't really have to at this point. If you want a different style, then go with another stylist.

He doesn't have to do it for the third film, but I think come the fourth if he's still onboard for the series, it'd be good to see him mix things up a bit.

I think he should close it out with one more film, and let this version stand for its place in time. Then they can start again with a whole other version from someone else, rather than stretch this version out and change it along the way.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I see what you mean, but I would still like to see him allow more fantastical elements in his Batman films and vision to mix things up a bit and do justice to live-action portrayals of characters like Man-Bat, Freeze and a monster-sized Croc and a TAS-style Clayface. But that's just me and what I'd like to see.

 

[KalMart]

I see what you mean, but I would still like to see him allow more fantastical elements in his Batman films and vision to mix things up a bit and do justice to live-action portrayals of characters like Man-Bat, Freeze and a monster-sized Croc and a TAS-style Clayface. But that's just me and what I'd like to see.

I get you. And from a comic-fan perspective, I can see how many would feel that way. But with these movies in particular, they're not films that are celebrations of the comic or comics in general, or comic fandom. For Nolan, these are films first and foremost, that are based on/inspired by the comic character. And the degree of what is or isn't translated or reinterpreted is ultimately up to his discretion and his preferences, not the source material's. So if you'd ask him as to what's really more important...the film part of it or the comic part of it...I think he'd choose the former. Of course, there are going to be parts of the Batman world that he won't cover...so we can at least watch and enjoy the parts that he does in his own way, or not. If he was somehow obligated to incorporate characters or styles that weren't to his preference, he probably wouldn't take the job at all, especially not now.

So even if Nolan's version is a smaller window into the world of Batman than some may have preferred, I'm at least thankful it's as good of a window as it is. And I believe that every part of his particular approach is essential to making the end product as good as it is as a whole. Try to change just one part of it, and it'll effect everything else. I'd rather he stick to his guns, and have someone else who wants to do it that way from the beginning do it all-out with their own version. And look at this way...when the next version of Batman comes out, it'll be good to have it be more fantasy-like top-to-bottom to distinguish it from Nolan's.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I see what you mean and think you bring up a lot of good points, although I'd still like to see more fantasy aspects enter Nolan's Batman world. To see him create a live-action version of TAS in his Batman films and do excellent portrayals of characters like Man-Bat would be a dream for me. But that's just my two cents on the issue.

 

[KalMart]

Wouldn't you like to see someone who's more of a fantasy-adventure filmmaker do something with Man-Bat or the like, though?