The Dark Knight Rises Nathan Jones for Killer Croc (Waylan Jones)?!!?

[SuperMike335!!]

Killer Croc actor has to be Nathan Jones.

If the character of Killer Croc is ever to be displayed in a future Batman movie, the most appropriate actor for this role would be, NATHAN JONES.
You may remember him from the movie Fearless, with Jet Lee, or the Giant Boagrius that Achilles kills in the opening scene on TROY.

Jones is not a bodybuilder (although he looks like one), but is a former WSM contender, and the winner of the 1995 world strength Championship at the Highland games in Scottland.

Nathan Jones as a teenager spent 7 years in a Tasmanian Maximum Security Prison, "Bogo Road Goal", where he got the name "Colossus of Bogo Road" as he stand 6’11" and 360 pounds, of muscle.

That was many years ago, and now he takes roles in movies that require "extremely tall muscular actor", and for the role of Killer Croc, (ironically his identity is "Waylon Jones"), I figure Christopher Nolan cannot pass this up.

In the Nolan-verse, I think a more realistic take on Killer Croc, would be to have him as a sort of cross between Crocodile Dundee, and Hannibal. A serial killer who eats his victims, and is strong/skilled enough to evade capture by most means.

Could also be a hired hit-man as well by a more appropriate "main villain", in the movie, and serve as a sort of "under-villain", much in the way scarecrow was to Ras Al’Gul in the first movie.

I also figure an Australian accent is more appropriate for a Croc, as Crocodiles are a notorious animal commonly found there. That and a 7ft powerfully built cross between Crocodile Dundee and Hannibal Lectner makes on scary villain.

Here is the link to Nathan Jone’s imdb page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0428923/

I honestly think that Nathan was born to play this role. As I said before, they even have the same last name!

Some things to keep in mind for pulling of a Jones’ Croc, is:

1: skin disease is MILD. Does Not even have to be green. Possibly just marbled looking calluses on the skin on his shoulders, and maybe a little on his head.

2.His teeth could also be "filed" to be sharp at the points, and given his massive size, other criminals have learned to fear this serial killer, dubbed "Killer Croc".

3. Does not need to talk a lot, and needs a good action/fight scene. Not too much unlike what we saw in Fearless.

4. He can use his native Australian accent.

5. When batman drps him off at Gotham PD, Croc needs to be tied up the way Steve Irwin would tie up a Crocodile. Mouth top-rope+ black sheet over the face to "keep him calm". (optional, but would be funny)

 

[HereToComment27]

Interesting idea, but from the sound of it, this Nathan Jones would play a better Bane than Killer Croc. It is a good idea and I trul admire how you have laid things out.

Killer Croc in a future Batman movie would be interesting. He is not my top choice, but the way that you presented how it could work, changes my mind a bit. I doubt that we will see him soon, but the thought is always there.

Your ideas on him are good, but I am not sure if Nolan would be up to it. Who knows, maybe Nolan will come on these forums and read what you wrote and think "Hey, I should put Killer Croc into the next Batman film!"

But who knows. LOL

 

[TheTrickster]

Worst poll ever.

Nathan Jones can't act. So why would you won't to cast him in a film?

It's Scotland

 

[SuperMike335!!]

Worst poll ever.

Nathan Jones can't act. So why would you won't to cast him in a film?

It's Scotland

He can well enough for a role like Killer Croc.

Does not need to come off as enigmatic and sophisticated, in any way.

I was not suggesting Croc be a main villain either.

He would only need 10 minutes of screen time in the movie.

One good fight scene, where bruite force/power vs. intelligent fighting + use of surroundings has to eventually overcome, after a good thrashing at the hands of Croc.

We don’t need an academy award winning dramatic actor for the role of Croc. You need the ability to perform a fight scene as a monster with few words and look threatening.

Something Nathan can do in spades.
Croc can have a 1-dimensional personality, and Jones has been in several films already playing exactly the kind of characters.

He could be in only 4 scenes, with the first 3 (other than fight) being rather short with only a several lines. Others talking about him in other scenes can drive his story forward.

That and who is to say he is so horrible at acting? Because he is 7ft and over 350 pounds?

Why don’t we just get a 5’10" actor for Croc, one who can really add a sense of drama to the character.

Croc is 10% verbal and 90% physical. Jones has good enough ability to "physically" act.

 

[Kargo Warrior]

Please stay far away from the Nathan Jones's caliber of actors.The only way i would except an actor like him is in a 2 minute role ala Deebo from Friday.

But as a villain?Just...no.

 

[Two-Face]

"Hit him with a rock"

I pay to see that.

 

[Anubis]

If they gave him the role of Bane, I'd think it was a bad idea, but Killer Croc? Pfft, why not. Even your average pro wrestler can play big and stupid.

 

[The Major]

They should only use Croc after Nolan is done.

Unless Nolan wants to use him, of course.

Del Toro could make him work on screen.

 

[Anubis]

Del Toro would make Bane work on screen.

 

[The Major]

Del Toro would make Bane work on screen.

True.

I think Nolan could do it, too.

 

[Laderlappen]

From Heath Ledger to Nathan Jones is a major step down. Jones is not a good actor, and Croc is an unrealistic villian, so no.

 

[Anubis]

Screw Realism, we're talking about Batman. If you're only gonna go with the "realistic" villains then Dark Knight was the last possible film they can make.

 

[TheTrickster]

He can well enough for a role like Killer Croc.

Does not need to come off as enigmatic and sophisticated, in any way.

I was not suggesting Croc be a main villain either.

He would only need 10 minutes of screen time in the movie.

One good fight scene, where bruite force/power vs. intelligent fighting + use of surroundings has to eventually overcome, after a good thrashing at the hands of Croc.

We don’t need an academy award winning dramatic actor for the role of Croc. You need the ability to perform a fight scene as a monster with few words and look threatening.

Something Nathan can do in spades.
Croc can have a 1-dimensional personality, and Jones has been in several films already playing exactly the kind of characters.

He could be in only 4 scenes, with the first 3 (other than fight) being rather short with only a several lines. Others talking about him in other scenes can drive his story forward.

That and who is to say he is so horrible at acting? Because he is 7ft and over 350 pounds?

Why don’t we just get a 5’10" actor for Croc, one who can really add a sense of drama to the character.

Croc is 10% verbal and 90% physical. Jones has good enough ability to "physically" act.

So basically for the third film you want them to just shoot the croc story in Gotham Knight? Is there any point in bringing in croc for ten minutes? Why don't we just have Nathan Jones beat up batman as someones goon?

To me it sounds like you want this fanchise to head back to the glory days of Batman & Robin and Batman Forever

 

[cerealkiller182]

Kevin Durand as Croc

 

[Laderlappen]

Screw Realism, we're talking about Batman. If you're only gonna go with the "realistic" villains then Dark Knight was the last possible film they can make.

What do you mean with 'last possible film they can make'? DO you mean that Two-face & Joker are the two least realistic villians, or that they dont have any realistic villians left? Anyway is wrong. You cant just decide to 'screw realism'.

 

[Anubis]

You got maybe Black mask, (who I forgot about when I said that) bringing Ra's back or his daughter, maybe Deadshot, annnnd that's about it. Joker may as well be dead, Two Face is dead, and everybody else is too "unrealistic" for this universe where a guy dresses up like a Bat and fights crime. No Clayface, no Mr. Freeze, no Poison Ivy, no Bane, no Riddler, no Penguin, no Mad hatter, no Ventriloquist, and apparently, no Killer Croc. Why limit the franchise? Not exactly hard to do these characters with some seriousness to them. They already have been written seriously for years. I swear, the way some people talk you'd think someone murdered their imaginations or something.

 

[Laderlappen]

Some of them you mentioned aren't unrealistic. Killer Croc is. It would be like making a sequel to Heat and having Al Pacino hunting aliens. It just doesnt fit the previous movie. You cant make a serious thriller or a drama, and make a sequel that becomes a fantasy or a sci-fi. It's sucha obvious rule when it comes to filmmaking.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Killer Croc is realistic. He suffers from a real disease just more advanced. If "fear toxin" works then so can a highly advanced disease

 

[SuperMike335!!]

They way I suggested is realistic enough. You got a guy who has both a growth disorder (7ft with bodybuilder physique, even if he does not work out) who also has a skin disorder effecting his shoulders and scalp with marbled calluses.

Croc would be a dangerous hitman, working for a more intelligent villain. His job is to terrify enemies of the main villain, and he does so by eating most of his victims. This has real discomfort to it and naturally makes him somone Batman has to deal with.

As I said before (but has been ignored with other posts in the thread about comparing him to the Joker etc…), I do NOT intend the suggestion as a main villain.

He would be an underling, dangerous in a physical confrontation more so than a regular goon, and creepy, but NOT a "Gotham in panic level threat" like the Joker, Ras etc… are.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

So basically for the third film you want them to just shoot the croc story in Gotham Knight? Is there any point in bringing in croc for ten minutes? Why don't we just have Nathan Jones beat up batman as someones goon?

To me it sounds like you want this fanchise to head back to the glory days of Batman & Robin and Batman Forever

I specifcally said NOT a main villain. Not a Croc story for the whole film. Just a side story that would show that even a villain like Croc could be made "real" Villain enough to fit in the Nolan verse.

Did you even read the way I suggested him? Or did you just stop at the name of Jones?

Besides, Batman does not get beat up by "regular" goons.

 

[TheTrickster]

I specifcally said NOT a main villain. Not a Croc story for the whole film. Just a side story that would show that even a villain like Croc could be made "real" Villain enough to fit in the Nolan verse.

Did you even read the way I suggested him? Or did you just stop at the name of Jones?

Besides, Batman does not get beat up by "regular" goons.

I pretty much stopped at Jones yes, but that was due to anger as a result of the ridiculous options in the poll.

But from what i have said you want him as a bit role in the film, much like the Gotham Knights dvd inbetween thingy. Or kind of like bane in Batman and Robin.

If the regular goon was Nathan Jones however batman certainly would get beaten up wouldn't he?

 

[SuperMike335!!]

I pretty much stopped at Jones yes, but that was due to anger as a result of the ridiculous options in the poll.

But from what i have said you want him as a bit role in the film, much like the Gotham Knights dvd inbetween thingy. Or kind of like bane in Batman and Robin.

If the regular goon was Nathan Jones however batman certainly would get beaten up wouldn't he?

Why so Serious?

Not just a bit role, but more like the Russian in the Punisher movie.

I will say I could not stand that movie either, yet that fight scene was the only redeeming part of it.

Not exactly like that scene, and certainly not ****e like the "Bane" from B+R.

 

[Laderlappen]

They way I suggested is realistic enough. You got a guy who has both a growth disorder (7ft with bodybuilder physique, even if he does not work out) who also has a skin disorder effecting his shoulders and scalp with marbled calluses.

Croc would be a dangerous hitman, working for a more intelligent villain. His job is to terrify enemies of the main villain, and he does so by eating most of his victims. This has real discomfort to it and naturally makes him somone Batman has to deal with.

As I said before (but has been ignored with other posts in the thread about comparing him to the Joker etc…), I do NOT intend the suggestion as a main villain.

He would be an underling, dangerous in a physical confrontation more so than a regular goon, and creepy, but NOT a "Gotham in panic level threat" like the Joker, Ras etc… are.

Im not that familiar of the skin-desease non-mutant aligator monster version, but I guess that would work(but I wouldnt want that in the movie). Then its not unrealistic anymore, just very uncommon. But you have to agree that the unrealistic version shouldnt be included.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

Im not that familiar of the skin-desease non-mutant aligator monster version, but I guess that would work(but I wouldnt want that in the movie). Then its not unrealistic anymore, just very uncommon. But you have to agree that the unrealistic version shouldnt be included.

Absolutely.

If you read over my first post in the thread I was not describing him as a human/croc hybrid mutant at all.

More like a very massive/powerful bad guy with a callusing skin dissorder, earning him the title the "Killer Croc". That is not so unrealistic. Pretty much a giant Australian hitman, who eats parts of his victims as well. I would never have intended an over sized cross of Dundee and Hannibal to be a ninja turtle reject.

I would be the first person to protest if they went with an actual mutant crocodile/human idea.

I just wanted to see a realistic version of a long time Batman Villain, and that would discount the unrealistic version.

Keep in mind that Killer Croc is not as consistent as a character as say, the Joker, so you have a lot more wiggle room with creative changes. My suggestion making him an Australian as well is an example of that, and would also be part of the reason for the nickname "killer Croc" as he is Not supposed to be half crocodile the way I envision him.

 

[Crash_Overide]

I like the idea.. I have a version of the next batman i would like to make and it includes croc... nathan while being big and dull.. we have no proof that he is a bad actor.. look at his parts... he has never been giving a real chance to act. i think he could do croc justice.. I remember back when i watched wrestling and he just started up that he portrayed a murderer (working off his time in jail) I think he can do well and hope he would at least be considered.. and when it comes down to it.. If Nolan picked him it would work because I have complete faith in that man.
--Jess--