Sequels Kitty Pryde movie in the works

The rebooted X-Men should start with a X-Men ensemble film, not a Kitty Pryde film or Gambit film. And I don't even think they make/develop these films because they have some grand plan like the MCU. We are getting Deadpool 2, and Colossus is still theonly X-Man that is showing up. While Logan pretty much killed Xavier and the X-Men are mia. It is just messed up at this point.
 
How about it has a vision for the future while still having other properties run around? I just don't get why people want those movies to be shelved. A Kitty movie can be connected with the rebooted X-Men movie & other properties like Deadpool or even New Mutants or the Guardians. They can easily merge Deadpool to the MCU so they can also do the same with Kitty movie.

That's what I'm not getting either. How is any of it going to hurt the powerhouse that is Disney/Marvel and their potential future plans. Worst case is its a bad movie and Disney automatically cleans the slate. Best case its a good movie and Disney has options to work with. Its funny people constantly ***** about this franchise focusing on the same characters and here is an opportunity to focus on a different character, female no less, and people are saying no thanks?
 
That's what I'm not getting either. How is any of it going to hurt the powerhouse that is Disney/Marvel and their potential future plans. Worst case is its a bad movie and Disney automatically cleans the slate. Best case its a good movie and Disney has options to work with. Its funny people constantly ***** about this franchise focusing on the same characters and here is an opportunity to focus on a different character, female no less, and people are saying no thanks?

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Multiple Man is good? You'll have X-Factor next. Kitty Pryde? Excalibur next. But people don't want that I guess.
 
That's what I'm not getting either. How is any of it going to hurt the powerhouse that is Disney/Marvel and their potential future plans. Worst case is its a bad movie and Disney automatically cleans the slate. Best case its a good movie and Disney has options to work with. Its funny people constantly ***** about this franchise focusing on the same characters and here is an opportunity to focus on a different character, female no less, and people are saying no thanks?

You are absolutely right. I guess I was just surprised to hear it. I hope he really does well with this character because done right Kitty has always been one of the best female characters in comics.
 
No. When you have things like Logan and Deadpool being more profitable than the main X-men movies, it makes sense to look at lower budget solo movies. Frankly, most of these seem like a creator who Fox likes pitches them, and Fox bites.

As long as they bring back Ellen Paige, I am interested.

Yeah, Deadpool happened because Ryan Reynold pushed for it for years. Logan happened because Mangold and Jackman had a solid idea for a movie, that would also conclude Logan's story in a satisfying manner.

Gambit is happening because Channing Tatum said that he'd love to play Gambit, and New Mutants is happening because Josh Boone (who's apparently a fan) came to Fox with an idea for a film, and Fox liked it enough to greenlight it, etc.

So it wouldn't surprise me if Tim Miller did the same thing with a potential Kitty Pryde movie.
 
That's what I'm not getting either. How is any of it going to hurt the powerhouse that is Disney/Marvel and their potential future plans. Worst case is its a bad movie and Disney automatically cleans the slate. Best case its a good movie and Disney has options to work with. Its funny people constantly ***** about this franchise focusing on the same characters and here is an opportunity to focus on a different character, female no less, and people are saying no thanks?

Because for some people, Fox can do no right and Marvel can do no wrong. Look I really like Marvel overall, but they're far from perfect either (and a lack of female-led, or films not starring White males, has been one of their biggest failings imo).

So Fox "doesn't try enough new stuff" for some people. But when they DO do that, people still complain about "why are you doing this." They really cannot win in some people's minds.
 
Lack of female leads and only white leads has been every comic studio's failing. The fact it took this long to get to Wonder Woman let alone a good female led comic film was ridiculous. We are know entering the time of Black Panther and Ms Marvel. Along with Wonder Woman there's no more excuses.

As for Kitty Pryde cool. I love Miller, trust him and want this to happen.

But I see what other's are saying. If it is good I don't want it scrapped. The vision here for X-Men is non existent unless you're Deadpool in which case him and those characters are getting more set up then the X-Men. I want these characters to have a good future cause too many have not. There is far too much happening, which at this point is great and possibly bad. Overall this should have been happening back in 09. Not just starting talks in 2018 when the company has sold. Nobody knows wtf the future holds now or how that deal will work and that's the problem.

You don't need to be Marvel (even though technically now they kinda are) but have a general plan. Last thing you'd want to be is DC. Come to think of it with their flagship now being not their high selling IP maybe they do have more in common now.
 
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I can't see this happening. It would have to be done or nearly done in about 18 months. Perhaps less.

Yeah and Tim Miller is busy on the new Terminator film which has a July 2019 release date (plus a month or two for PR stuff). It will be the first Terminator film that Cameron has been involved in since T2 so it will be a big boost to Miller's career and not the kind of thing that he could easily walk away from. So there is basically zero chance that this film will be anywhere near production before the Disney deal is completed. Its safe to say that this film was something thought up before the deal was announced.

However I wouldn't say that the film will never get made, just not with Fox unless the deal falls apart. The big factor will be how Feige plans to introduce Mutants to the MCU, if it will be with a full X-Men film or something smaller. If they went with something smaller Feige might be interested if the story works with what they have planned. And Miller already has a relationship with Feige and the MCU so I would think that they would at least be willing to listen to his pitch, probably even moreso if the Terminator film does well.
 
Lack of female leads and only white leads has been every comic studio's failing. The fact it took this long to get to Wonder Woman let alone a good female led comic film was ridiculous. We are know entering the time of Black Panther and Ms Marvel. Along with Wonder Woman there's no more excuses.

As for Kitty Pryde cool. I love Miller, trust him and want this to happen.

But I see what other's are saying. If it is good I don't want it scrapped. The vision here for X-Men is non existent unless you're Deadpool in which case him and those characters are getting more set up then the X-Men. I want these characters to have a good future cause too many have not. There is far too much happening, which at this point is great and possibly bad. Overall this should have been happening back in 09. Not just starting talks in 2018 when the company has sold. Nobody knows wtf the future holds now or how that deal will work and that's the problem.

You don't need to be Marvel (even though technically now they kinda are) but have a general plan. Last thing you'd want to be is DC. Come to think of it with their flagship now being not their high selling IP maybe they do have more in common now.
Great level headed post as always. Love it.

Am I thrilled at this idea. Yes I am. Does it feel a little late. Yes. But let’s see what happens shall we.

Honestly I’m still under the impression that these films are being made with Marvel in the loop and possibly going to connect into the Marvel universe. Let’s see.
 
Honestly, Kitty would be my preferred POV character for introducing an already-established X-Men. Kind of like how they used Rogue in the first movie, except with the plot emphasis actually being on her. She has a lot of material from the comics to use in such a context, being as she was a major focus during probably the best era the X-Men ever had. Plus, a long arc going from new kid student to team leader and veteran.

From this perspective, the worst possibility of this Fox Kitty Pryde movie is actually that its *good*, really good, on its own. . . but is written and directed in a way that makes it absolutely useless and incompatible for the larger MCU X-Men plans.
 
Multiple Man is good? You'll have X-Factor next. Kitty Pryde? Excalibur next. But people don't want that I guess.


That's exactly the problem most of us have with FOX's vision. While a Kitty Pryde movie could be interesting and welcomed, the idea of turning Madrox and Kitty into solo heroes so their movies can lead to X-Factor and Excalibur is the problem. Fox never understood the concept of team and never really made a decent ensemble movie. This insistency in creating solo heroes for team movies is what most of us don't like. The X-Men is not a team serving as supporting characters for a hero to shine. Neither are the other teams.

Why do we need a Multiple Man movie and a Kitty Pryde movie so we can have X-Factor and Excalibur?

FOX bought the wrong rights. It should've been the Avengers, so they could focus on making solo hero movies.
 
You are assuming they are leading to those movies, because of Deadpool and X-force.

They are most likely more like Logan, movies intended to be stand alone. Which are still movies that get made. These movies don't have to be franchise starters. Ignore the MCU mentality.

We aren't getting a sequel to Rogue One, so we don't have to get a sequel to these.
 
Five years ago that I'd be very excited to hear that. Especially with Tim Miller involved. Now it's just annoying.

Pretty much this.

Fox had a perfect casting in Ellen Page twelve *****ing years ago. Hard to feel at all invested at this point.
 
You are assuming they are leading to those movies, because of Deadpool and X-force.

They are most likely more like Logan, movies intended to be stand alone. Which are still movies that get made. These movies don't have to be franchise starters. Ignore the MCU mentality.

We aren't getting a sequel to Rogue One, so we don't have to get a sequel to these.

Im perfectly fine with a standalone Kitty movie as long as she continues in other movies. But Kitty Pryde isnt and shouldnt ever be a one and done character.

This was Fox problem since 2006 to... now. So its time to avoid that problem/mistake. Kitty doesnt need a trilogy, but she deserves to appear in as many movies as posible, team or not.
 
More movies is not always better.

I'd rather FOX concentrate on making better X-Men team movies than trying to develop every character into a solo property with spinoff after spinoff.
 
You are assuming they are leading to those movies, because of Deadpool and X-force.

They are most likely more like Logan, movies intended to be stand alone. Which are still movies that get made. These movies don't have to be franchise starters. Ignore the MCU mentality.

Tell that to FOX.
 
More movies is not always better.

I'd rather FOX concentrate on making better X-Men team movies than trying to develop every character into a solo property with spinoff after spinoff.

would you have preffered to see just one Wolverine movie instead of a trilogy and also appearing in all x-men movies, basically getting a full arc about the character from the 40s to 2029?
 
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Multiple Man is good? You'll have X-Factor next. Kitty Pryde? Excalibur next. But people don't want that I guess.

Because you are also ignoring that Fox would be under a different company in under 18 months... You know a company who owns Marvel Studios.
 
would you have preffered to see just one Wolverine movie instead of a trilogy and also appearing in all x-men movies, basically getting a full arc about the character from the 40s to 2029?

I could've easily have lived with the only two good Wolverine movies we got. That first one clearly didn't need to happen.

Moot point, given that Wolverine has had a history of solo comic book runs and mini-series that could be adapted into solo movies. So has Deadpool, for that matter.

Name me a good Multiple Man solo comic.
 
I could've easily have lived with the only two good Wolverine movies we got. That first one clearly didn't need to happen.

Moot point, given that Wolverine has had a history of solo comic book runs and mini-series that could be adapted into solo movies. So has Deadpool, for that matter.

Name me a good Multiple Man solo comic.

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Any character could get a movie and turn out to be good with a good creative team.... However, these solo films feels random and not really necessary.

The ongoing films also feel over the place, like Logan was set in 2029 then both killed Xavier and Logan. The New Mutants as of now isn't really affiliated with the X-Men. Then there's the X-Men stuck in the past. Then Remy, Jamie, Laura... The Deadpool films hardly acknowledge the previous films. What's the direction of Gambit after its released? Kitty Pryde? And to top all of these questions. The rights would be under Disney in less than two years, what's gonna happen?

Its just really messed up. The X-Men's main appeal is they are an ensemble. The characters that could carry a solo franchise are Wolverine and Deadpool. That's it. A Gambit solo,a Kitty solo would be ideal if those characters were really a hit in the Fox movies, but launching them into their own films at this stage isn't smart.
 
Any character could get a movie and turn out to be good with a good creative team.... However, these solo films feels random and not really necessary.

The ongoing films also feel over the place, like Logan was set in 2029 then both killed Xavier and Logan. The New Mutants as of now isn't really affiliated with the X-Men. Then there's the X-Men stuck in the past. Then Remy, Jamie, Laura... The Deadpool films hardly acknowledge the previous films. What's the direction of Gambit after its released? Kitty Pryde? And to top all of these questions. The rights would be under Disney in less than two years, what's gonna happen?

Its just really messed up. The X-Men's main appeal is they are an ensemble. The characters that could carry a solo franchise are Wolverine and Deadpool. That's it. A Gambit solo,a Kitty solo would be ideal if those characters were really a hit in the Fox movies, but launching them into their own films at this stage isn't smart.
You contradict yourself with these two lines
 
1 movie is different from a solo franchise that isn't a series of one film. Fox could make a Psylocke movie now, would it become a franchise/a solo trilogy? Doubt it.
 
1 movie is different from a solo franchise that isn't a series of one film. Fox could make a Psylocke movie now, would it become a franchise/a solo trilogy? Doubt it.
Fox hasn't announced a trilogy of films for Kitty, Gambit, nor Multiple Man. These are intended to be one offs at this current stage, which you admit in your last post can work with a good creative team
 
And I did say they feel random and unnecessary at this point. And why do we need a 1off movies in the first place especially for those characters?

And Kinberg said that Gambit is intended to be a start of a franchise.
 

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