Sequels Kitty Pryde movie in the works

[Havok83]

And I did say they feel random and unnecessary at this point. And why do we need a 1off movies in the first place especially for those characters?

And Kinberg said that Gambit is intended to be a start of a franchise.

and Fox has since been bought out by Disney. These are more than likely arent going to get that far

 

[psylockolussus]

Which makes doing these films pointless. And when it comes to superhero films, I doubt they are thinking 1-off films. Personally speaking, I don't want X-Men properties separated most especially Kitty and Remy.

 

[Havok83]

Which makes doing these films pointless. And when it comes to superhero films, I doubt they are thinking 1-off films. Personally speaking, I don't want X-Men properties separated most especially Kitty and Remy.

I dont get you. You dont think they have the potential to be franchises but could work as one offs with a good creative team, but thats pointless to do since they likely wont be franchises due to the Disney purchase?

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Was it good?

 

[psylockolussus]

I dont get you. You dont think they have the potential to be franchises but could work as one offs with a good creative team, but thats pointless to do since they likely wont be franchises due to the Disney purchase?

You are missing my point.

A. We all know that Wolverine and Deadpool are the only characters that could carry a solo franchise right off the bat. And the others could succeed but that would depend if the character was well received before in a X-Men movie or if the film is low budgeted. And at this point, Kitty was underdeveloped while Gambit has been in a film for almost a decade and isn't build up by its film predecessors.

B. How many comic book solos that managed to get good reviews but couldn't sustain high sales. I see that happening in X-Men solo films? And I never implied that these solo films would do well at box office. I clearly meant they could be good but box office potential is another topic.

C. Yes it is pointless regardless if the quality is good. I don't want a 1-off Kitty or Gambit film and I'd rather see them be developed in a MCU X-Men ensemble.

 

[Havok83]

Was it good?

yes which is why I posted it

 

[Yowza]

As soon as I read the announcement on this I could just envision a bandwagon of posters gleefully going on about Fox films being killed and done with (with select 1 saying same thing over and over disrupting too many conversations people try to have about anything which yes I have on ignore but no it's not really helping much).

With that being said, I doubt this will happen. Main thing that crossed my mind when read this headline was the comment the producer and some of the X cast have had on Brett Ratner. Maybe this is more of a pitch than anything in response to some of that.

 

[def28]

I hope we get answers on this stuff by the time New Mutants and Deadpool 2 come out.

Kitty Pryde ain't happening till 2020 or 2021 at the earliest. Honestly, here is what I hope happens. Marvel/Disney realizes (as anyone should) that the X-Men franchise is vast, marketable and can have their own brand. We get all these X-films under a new X-Men Marvel label, which can still be open for big event crossovers in the MCU if need be. Like say Secret Wars or whatever but also lend for more adult flicks and darker tones with Deadpool and Wolverine. Everyone wins.

Miller has a great relationship with Marvel/Disney, preferably I'd want a Kitty Pryde film to have a life beyond a one shot. Or I would love a Kitty Pryde film to lead to her joining a new cast with present time X-Men. That probably would be my favorite route.

What I don't want is Fox at the last minute grasping for whatever they can only to have everything cut off. That's dumb and I don't think that will happen. They sold and made a deal.

 

[kevork89]

I hope we get answers on this stuff by the time New Mutants and Deadpool 2 come out.

Kitty Pryde ain't happening till 2020 or 2021 at the earliest. Honestly, here is what I hope happens. Marvel/Disney realizes (as anyone should) that the X-Men franchise is vast, marketable and can have their own brand. We get all these X-films under a new X-Men Marvel label, which can still be open for big event crossovers in the MCU if need be, like say Secret Wars or whatever.

Miller has a great relationship with Marvel/Disney, preferably I'd want a Kitty Pryde film to have a life beyond a one shot. Or I would love a Kitty Pryde film to lead to her joining a new cast with present time X-Men.

What I don't want is Fox at the last minute grasping for whatever they can, and I don't think that will happen.

Yes!

Honestly this is what I think is happening. I still think that New Mutants, Deadpool, Gambit, Multiple Man and now Shadowcat are all being developed with the intention of Marvel taking over and a new world beginning. Dark Phoenix will be the last in the X-Men world and new movies are on their way to join Marvel.

New Mutants and Gambit were both very different movies until about two years ago and then suddenly changed. The whole Gambit script was changed and all new people on board. That report that came out about Anya and Maisie joining New Mutants was true but there was also that talk that James and Alexandra will be in it and it would be set in the late 80s. Then that was all changed, the 80s concept was scrapped and no James or Alexandra, but still Maisie and Anya. Honestly I think this deal has been in talks for quite a while and all these new spin offs are joining Marvel. Thats my theory anyway.

 

[def28]

Yes!

Honestly this is what I think is happening. I still think that New Mutants, Deadpool, Gambit, Multiple Man and now Shadowcat are all being developed with the intention of Marvel taking over and a new world beginning. Dark Phoenix will be the last in the X-Men world and new movies are on their way to join Marvel.

New Mutants and Gambit were both very different movies until about two years ago and then suddenly changed. The whole Gambit script was changed and all new people on board. That report that came out about Anya and Maisie joining New Mutants was true but there was also that talk that James and Alexandra will be in it and it would be set in the late 80s. Then that was all changed, the 80s concept was scrapped and no James or Alexandra, but still Maisie and Anya. Honestly I think this deal has been in talks for quite a while and all these new spin offs are joining Marvel. Thats my theory anyway.

Totally, I just don't get that everyone would be oblivious to this deal happening. Or that someone like Tatum would put in so much just to have one flick. They want a franchise and to grow.

 

[Kuwolski]

I don't see a separate X-Men label. I think it would be Marvel Studios and then a Marvel Knights/Max-type label. This is where future Deadpool likely rests, as well as other similar titles. From my perspective, this is one of the potential benefits of the deal, where Marvel's hand is forced to accommodate fans expectations of certain franchises already established in pop culture, in this case Deadpool and Logan. That's not to say they won't be PG-13 in other films (as Wolverine was in the X-Men films), but the solo-films are another matter.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

It's possible Tatum and the creative team behind Gambit are no more in the loop than we are. The writer of the Dr. Doom movie says no one from FOX or Disney has contacted him. Its going to be 18 months before this deal gets finalized so everything is up in the air right now.

 

[psylockolussus]

I really doubt Marvel Studios would go out of their own way and make room for ideas/films that came from Fox's messy direction and not theirs.

OK Deadpool/X-Force are staying. But they'd be too generous IMO, to keep Laura, Remy, Jamie, Doom and Kitty. MCU didn't go absorb Sinister Six into their films. So I really doubt it.

 

[kevork89]

Because the Sony deal isn’t like the Fox one. Sony still has the rights to do whatever it wants with Spider-Man and they aren’t a studio absorbed by Disney. Fox is. It’s a completely different situation. The two aren’t comparable.

 

[Marvel united]

Because the Sony deal isn’t like the Fox one. Sony still has the rights to do whatever it wants with Spider-Man and they aren’t a studio absorbed by Disney. Fox is. It’s a completely different situation. The two aren’t comparable.

Why would Feige even want Fox's slew of spinoffs?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Because the Sony deal isn’t like the Fox one. Sony still has the rights to do whatever it wants with Spider-Man and they aren’t a studio absorbed by Disney. Fox is. It’s a completely different situation. The two aren’t comparable.

Which is why Marvel will cancel any spinoffs that aren't already completed at the time the buyout goes through, while with Sony there is nothing they can do other than say "no, those aren't in the MCU."

 

[x-er]

Is Page confirmed?

 

[Lip]

I wonder tho if Marvel can start working together with FOX to start introducing the mutants in the MCU. We all know that it's still 18 months for the deal, but in the meantime, they could work an arrangement similar to the one they made with Sony. They could start at least using the word mutants, dependind of course how and when they'll be introduced.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I wonder tho if Marvel can start working together with FOX to start introducing the mutants in the MCU. We all know that it's still 18 months for the deal, but in the meantime, they could work an arrangement similar to the one they made with Sony. They could start at least using the word mutants, dependind of course how and when they'll be introduced.

Disney's probably not going to behave in anyway that could potentially cause problems getting the buyout approved. They are better off just sitting back and allow Fox to do whatever the hell it wants until 2019. The clock is ticking. Everyone knows it. This X-Men franchise is going to be dead in two years. No need to get impatient.

 

[def28]

Why would Feige even want Fox's slew of spinoffs?

I lean more to the side of putting these characters in the MCU sooner then later, but what makes you think he would hate them all or not want them?

It's obvious Deadpool is gonna stay. I seriously doubt Logan was hated. Legion and Gifted are co-produced and outside of the main series needing a reboot of sorts (especially with no present team) why would he be against them if they are good? The main series is the only thing I can see that at this point would need seriously new direction.

 

[Havok83]

I lean more to the side of putting these characters in the MCU sooner then later, but what makes you think he would hate them all or not want them?

It's obvious Deadpool is gonna stay. I seriously doubt Logan was hated. Legion and Gifted are co-produced and outside of the main series needing a reboot of sorts (especially with no present team) why would he be against them if they are good? The main series is the only thing I can see that at this point would need seriously new direction.

I think he'd rather take his time and get them right as opposed to inheriting versions that might contradict/interfere with ideas he has for them

 

[def28]

I think he'd rather take his time and get them right as opposed to inheriting versions that might contradict/interfere with ideas he has for them

I agree to a certain extent. Just that outside Deadpool, which was brought up almost instantly after the deal was announced none of this has really been brought up. None of these have even came out.

I really don't know wtf to think anymore, except they don't wanna lose Deadpool. A new X-Men team film definitely needs to happen, and I'm sure he will want that a certain way.

 

[Sithborg]

Which is why Marvel will cancel any spinoffs that aren't already completed at the time the buyout goes through, while with Sony there is nothing they can do other than say "no, those aren't in the MCU."

We don't know that, though. Disney has a lot, lot more to make back in this buy out. Feige himself has already acknowledged the value of using the Fox brand to make things that don't fit into the MCU/Marvel Studios brand.

Even Feige making one more movie a year isn't going to make a significant dent into what Disney is spending.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well he's just speculating just like you.

Is Page confirmed?

Nope.

 

[kevork89]

At this point in time the shuffle with New Mutants, X-Force continuing, Kitty announcement etc this could all be the workings of the Fox/Marvel deal happening. Everyone saying why would Feige inherit what Fox is doing, he wouldn’t inherit it if he’s involved with it, which is what def and I are trying to say. These deals and character spin offs etc could be happening by Marvel as introductions into the MCU just as Sony did with Spider-Man.