Kryptonite: Use It Or Lose It?

How do you beat a man of steel? Perhaps with a supervillain that has fists harder than steel? ;)

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Or someone with intelligence greater than Lex Luthor, with the strength of Superman to back it up? Maybe someone so bad, he could potentially require Supes and Lex to temporarily combine forces?

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Yes, it is possible to give Superman a threat without resorting to the green rock.
 
Or they could just get a capable super villain to at least THROW a punch at him. That's a lot easier than going through the arduous task of baking a custard pie. :yay:



Agreed, but imagine the stain in his suit, get that one out without calgon.:woot:
 
How do you beat a man of steel? Perhaps with a supervillain that has fists harder than steel? ;)

Metallo5.jpg


Or someone with intelligence greater than Lex Luthor, with the strength of Superman to back it up? Maybe someone so bad, he could potentially require Supes and Lex to temporarily combine forces?

Brainiac(STAS).jpg


Yes, it is possible to give Superman a threat without resorting to the green rock.

:yay: And the critics agree. Two thumbs up! Bravo! Bravo!

[Cue Applause]
 
Is anyone else sick of kryptonite constantly being used to weaken Superman?
Is anyone else sick of criminals always shooting at John McClane? Why can't they just throw nerf balls at him?

Is anyone else sick of Jet Li always being attacked by martial artists? Why can't he ever get into a chess competition for the fate of China?

Etc......etc........etc.......
 
Is anyone else sick of "kryptonite" used as a weapon against Superman?

Yes, I'm deathly sick of it. It's been 30 years of the same tired-ass plot. :down
 
Is anyone else sick of criminals always shooting at John McClane? Why can't they just throw nerf balls at him?

Is anyone else sick of Jet Li always being attacked by martial artists? Why can't he ever get into a chess competition for the fate of China?

Etc......etc........etc.......


They don't always just shoot at John McClane, they also try to blow him up from time to time. And um, that's because guns are the weapons bad guys traditinoally use in most action movies...they even used guns in Superman Returns. Kids use nerf balls, they aren't intended to inflict pain. You don't see bank robbers in action movies using nerf balls or kryptonite as weapons....Kryptonite isn't a common weapon used in all action movies....guns are.

Jet Li isn't always attacked by martial artitsts and he isn't always in China...Unleashed anyone? Romeo Must Die? any of these movies ring a bell? Oh yeah, and guns are in both of those movies too, but no kryptonite.
 
They don't always just shoot at John McClane, they also try to blow him up from time to time. And um, that's because guns are the weapons bad guys traditinoally use in most action movies...they even used guns in Superman Returns. Kids use nerf balls, they aren't intended to inflict pain. You don't see bank robbers in action movies using nerf balls or kryptonite as weapons....Kryptonite isn't a common weapon used in all action movies....guns are.

Jet Li isn't always attacked by martial artitsts and he isn't always in China...Unleashed anyone? Romeo Must Die? any of these movies ring a bell? Oh yeah, and guns are in both of those movies too, but no kryptonite.

I know that he is also punched, kicked, blownup, rundown, etc......the point being.....he is predominately SHOT at....because that is the easiest way to inflict harm upon him....just as using Kryptonite is the easiest way to harm Supermam,even though he has also been shot at, blownup, crushed, froze, engulfed in flames.....

I know that Jet Li isn't always in China too.....but he initially gained his world wide fame as a martial artist defending his homeland of China.

The point of my post was missed......in an action adventure movie that is part of a series.....things get repeated.....especially using the hero's primary weakness against him.

The point of this thread is to make a complaint about Kryptonite being used against Superman in SR.....yes, it was used against him....but he was also shot at, punched, kicked, stabbed, and thrown off of a cliff into the ocean to drown. Kryptonite is his main weakness....but other things were tried and done to him also.
 
I know that he is also punched, kicked, blownup, rundown, etc......the point being.....he is predominately SHOT at....because that is the easiest way to inflict harm upon him....just as using Kryptonite is the easiest way to harm Supermam,even though he has also been shot at, blownup, crushed, froze, engulfed in flames.....

I know that Jet Li isn't always in China too.....but he initially gained his world wide fame as a martial artist defending his homeland of China.

The point of my post was missed......in an action adventure movie that is part of a series.....things get repeated.....especially using the hero's primary weakness against him.

The point of this thread is to make a complaint about Kryptonite being used against Superman in SR.....yes, it was used against him....but he was also shot at, punched, kicked, stabbed, and thrown off of a cliff into the ocean to drown. Kryptonite is his main weakness....but other things were tried and done to him also.

Well, of course normal things that will easily harm a human won't bring harm to him. Obviously the writers of the comics have found more creative outlets than just using kryptonite. No one is disptuing that krptonite makes superman weak and it should be present every now and then, but for God Sakes give us something different! The comicbook writers have found many different threats against superman that didn't involve kryptonite.

The kryptonite thing has been done sooo many times, it's not new or creative. Maybe instead of putting so much effort (or lack there of) into throwing in the kid, I think Singer shuold have been working on a better threat/villain. If the comics were like the Superman franchise with krptonite continuously making appearances in everyone...I don't think Superman would have last as long in the comics.

And I didn't miss the point you attempted to make, but I just don't think it's logical in the context you tried to make it, because guns are common weapons used in all action movies....guns are real. Jet Li is a real person and his niche is martial arts films. It's not the same as a fictional element of a movie based on a comicbook being overly used...especially when there are many other potential threats Superman can have. I don't see kryptonite appearing in every Superman comicbook...no reason it should appear in every movie...especially when we can't even get a decent super villain. Superman even got a kid before we got a decent supervillain. At the rate the franchise is going, the chances of Superman undergoing rhinoplasty operation are greater than the chances of him getting a decent super villain.
 
I use Darkseid as an example. He never needs kryptonite to bring Supes to his knees or cause him pain. That kind of power is what's needed to be showecased to show that krypton isn't the only thing that can damage him.
 
There needs to be a mega villain in the next one. I despise Kryptonite, and it makes Superman look pathetic. "Oh, I can't with stand stupid green rock!" The one thing I hate the most in smallville is kryptonite is used every episode! I hate that dumb rock! Like you guys have said, bring in darkseid or doomsday, somebody who can fight!
 
SR uses kryptonite because it's bringing things up to speed, acting as a reminder and suchlike, also it's a good way to show hatred being chanelled in human form etc.
 
SR uses kryptonite because it's bringing things up to speed, acting as a reminder and suchlike, also it's a good way to show hatred being chanelled in human form etc.

Great point and well said. :up: :)

In the next film maybe someone will use a straightening iron on his front curl? :oldrazz: ;) :)

Angeloz
 
I wouldnt mind it IF we have a decent supervillain as well. (Brainiac)
 
To answer the original question posed to kick off this thread... Yes, I am tired of kryptonite being used in all the movies. Which now leads me to a follow up of sorts. ... I have a hunch that in this next installment, the great 'threat' will not so much be to Superman's life....(It's been done in virtually all the movies)... I think Singer is going to place the burden of suspense on the salvation of the human race. That is to say... Superman will be roughed up...but it will not be a question of whether or not he survives an encounter with one of his nemesis. The question may very well be...whether the people of earth survive...
 
Actually there is, magic being one of them.
 
There is nothing else besides Kryptonite that can harm Superman.

Magic, red sun radiation, another Kryptonian, can't hold his breath forever, a mullet.......
 
Yes back on topic. Superman rarely comes up against kryptonite in the comics. Humans have gotten smart enough to use weapons that are just lead pieces. Lasers and particle weapons give superman a run for his money. Also theres a simple solution to the invincible superman ideology.



POWER HIM DOWN!

The animated series did it by lowering his power considerably but he still the toughest mofo on the planet. I mean in the first couple of episodes a high power gun slowed him a little.


Also superman is hurt by plenty of stuff. The key thing is that most earth tech is useless against superman. But companies like lex corp take alien tech and up the game which gets spread around. Metahumans who arent just pure strength effect him. Reading the comics, the Omacs were really strong but had the weaponry to counter supermans durability.
 

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