Sequels Legendary Pictures & Thomas Tull Think Superman Sequel

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

brainiac is Lexcorp's new AI system. the world thinks its going to make the world safe and it will by killing superman. brainiac creates Metallo and/or Bizarro to kill superman using lex's tech.

 

[The Guard]

Or how about Braniac creating Doomsday?

It's been done. It's partially where I got the idea of Braniac creating Metallo, actually. This was featured in Kevin Smith's SUPERMAN LIVES script.

It's not just because of that one scene. Singer spent approximately 3 mil on the 'bullet-to-the-eye' scene - creating a complete CGI Brandon Routh head - when the same scene in the satire 'Epic Movie' had the same visual but done for a fraction of that and it looked pretty much the same. Instead of wasting money on the CGI effect, they just used the actual actor and supered in a CGI bullet.

He spent three million on one sequence, or one scene? Because there's much more to the bank robbery scene than that one sequence.

 

[Super Kal]

if I remember correctly, that scene was 5 million.... not 3 million

 

[Showtime]

It was 2.3 million on the bullet to the eye scene.

 

[bunk]

Did somebody really say the "Epic Movie" version looked the same?

*headdesk*

 

[Prefix]

Where would we be without hyperbole?

 

[Super Kal]

It was 2.3 million on the bullet to the eye scene.

ah... interesting... always heard it was 5...

ok then

 

[dark_b]

2.3 is still 2.3 to much for this scene.
its a fact and i dare to say FACT that they could have used real footage. it all about how you prepare yourself for this kind of scenes. look at the matrix and the speed racer. teh camera work is insane. how do you think you match up real footage with CGI? they took time to film those scenes. speed racer doesnt have realistic CGI but the camera work is insane. the scenes in speed racer are IMO technical 5 times more complicated then the bullet scene in SR.

 

[The Guard]

Scene? Or sequence? Because the scene involves a number of other elements.

 

[dark_b]

sceen ....sequence. i dont care how you call it. you know very good what i mean.
how many times do we see a slow motion shot of a bullet in supermans eye?

 

[I Am The Knight]

sceen ....sequence. i dont care how you call it. you know very good what i mean.
how many times do we see a slow motion shot of a bullet in supermans eye?

There is a difference. But, I'm sure, Guard, that the 2.3 million figure is for the bullet to the eye shot alone, not the whole sequence. At least that's my understanding.

 

[The Guard]

sceen ....sequence. i dont care how you call it. you know very good what i mean.

how many times do we see a slow motion shot of a bullet in supermans eye?

I know what part of the movie you are talking about. What I don't know, and what I've been asking, is whether Singer spent whatever he spent on the part of the scene where Superman is shot in the eye...or on that entire scene. There is a huge difference.

There is a difference. But, I'm sure, Guard, that the 2.3 million figure is for the bullet to the eye shot alone, not the whole sequence. At least that's my understanding.

How are you sure?

 

[Showtime]

Well he brought people back for to specifically reshoot that scene. The rest of the scene was already in the script, if I remember correctly the bullet to the eye scene wasn't.

 

[I Am The Knight]

How are you sure?

Look at Showtime's post.

Plus, do you really think the whole sequence would cost only 2.3 million?

 

[The Guard]

Look at Showtime's post.

I did.

Plus, do you really think the whole sequence would cost only 2.3 million?

I have no idea. Do you?

I would expect if Showtime knew the exact amount of the "scene or sequence", that he would know the difference between a "scene" and a "sequence". And since he said "scene"...

I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just asking for a little clarification.

 

[The Guard]

Warners didn't want Singer to shoot the slo-mo speeding bullet. "I'm glad Bryan won the day," Stetson says, "because it's a fun moment and a nice piece of action." The Orphanage handled the entire set piece, which cost $2.3 million, from the cops assembled below, the gunner and his blaring machine guns, the bullets ricocheting off the rotor blade of the helicopter, to scene extensions of the rooftop, Stetson explains.

That's the most involved version of events I can find.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I have no idea. Do you?

That's what I believe. Makes sense to me that only the "bullet to the eye" cost 2.3 million, not the whole sequence, but, who knows?

Warners didn't want Singer to shoot the slo-mo speeding bullet. "I'm glad Bryan won the day," Stetson says, "because it's a fun moment and a nice piece of action." The Orphanage handled the entire set piece, which cost $2.3 million, from the cops assembled below, the gunner and his blaring machine guns, the bullets ricocheting off the rotor blade of the helicopter, to scene extensions of the rooftop, Stetson explains.

That's the most involved version of events I can find.

That seems confusing. What about the bullets ricocheting off Superman's chest? Superman flying?

 

[Showtime]

I would expect if Showtime knew the exact amount of the "scene or sequence", that he would know the difference between a "scene" and a "sequence". And since he said "scene"...

I'm not saying it isn't true, I'm just asking for a little clarification.

I know the difference between a scene and a sequence, I just didn't realize me not using the correct term matters, but apparently that is what you two are going back and forth on.

 

[GL's Light]

That description seems straightforward to me. The $2.3 million obviously wasn't just for the shot of the bullet bouncing off of Superman's eye - it was for the whole set piece where Superman stops the robbery.

 

[The Guard]

That seems confusing. What about the bullets ricocheting off Superman's chest? Superman flying?

They don't mention the security guards either. Does it have to mention every single element of the scene to get it's point across? This article makes it sound like the entire setpiece and sequence beyond the bullet to the eye was the $2.3 million, if not the entire scene.

 

[Dark Knight]

brainiac is Lexcorp's new AI system. the world thinks its going to make the world safe and it will by killing superman. brainiac creates Metallo and/or Bizarro to kill superman using lex's tech.

I can see something like this working well in a possible sequel screenplay.

I just don't want to see Bizarro. I would rather see Metallo.

Also....toward the end of the sequel perhaps there will be a hint that Braniac is an agent/or accomplice of someone who is a much larger threat that can be featured in the eventual JL film? DARKSEID!

 

[Dark Knight]

Agree to disagree, but if I was running the show, I think it would be very narrowminded to use Zod at this point. Also knowing the direction that Singer's team wanted to take things, they wanted to break away from "The Donnerverse, as does WB and the fans. To use Zod on any level at this point is a slap in the face to fans if you ask me.

Exactly!

 

[I Am The Knight]

They don't mention the security guards either. Does it have to mention every single element of the scene to get it's point across?

LOL, no, I guess not. Just thought they'd mention something like bullets bouncing off Superman's chest.

This article makes it sound like the entire setpiece and sequence beyond the bullet to the eye was the $2.3 million, if not the entire scene.

I just have a hard time believing the entire sequence was done for $2.3 million. Especially considering the $200+ budget and what is actually on the screen. Seems like they could have included a lot more action. I wonder how much the Plane Shuttle sequnce cost, or something like Superman lifting NK.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

While we're on the subject of the upcoming sequel for 2010, I see less of Star Trek II and more of Rambo: First Blood Part II and The Spy Who Loved Me.

With the Rambo sequel, they basically stuffed it full of action left-and-right while...only vaguely referring to the previous film. I'd go as far to say had Stallone and Richard Crenna not shown up, it could have been a brand-new film totally seperate from First Blood.

The filmmakers basically "delivered the goods" for the audience and listened to what they wanted (i.e. Rambo kicks villains' asses and what not). Dare I say, that's the film we'll probably be referring to when The Man of Steel is released...if I had to guess.

Regarding The Spy Who Loved Me, the filmmakers basically knew they had to deliver a solid-ass movie for audiences....or they were ****ed. The previous film The Man with the Golden Gun under-performed (albeit solid business but well below their projections, plus they faced a box-office juggarnaut in The Towering Inferno).

Not to mention, the studio went through multiple directors, writers, plots/scripts, etc. and faced further problems via lawsuits and what not. Does any of that sound familiar?

 

[X Knight]

hey everyone......I've been posting here on the Superman boards for the past few years as Super-Bats.....

Today....I have officially changed my user name to......Iron Avenger.

so....it's still me, super-bats........but with a different name......lol.

a bit off topic, I know.....but most of the posters I interact with are here on the Supes boards.......