Superman Returns Legendary on Board Superman Sequel

[The Kid]

Yes. You're just being unbiased. as much as possible anyway.

 

[NateGray]

You totally don't understand my opinions.

Why am I being attacked by the SR haters and lovers? Does that mean I'm doing something right?

Sorry did not realy mean for that to seem like an attack just thought it was funny you do not like Bladerunner which I personaly love.

The rest was just FYI stuff and my opinion not realy meant as an attack

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

LMAO yeh and you seem to think SR is better than Bladrunner????
Because if so you have no worth to your opinion whatsoever.

No I don't see bottom of post for details. I'm happy that you enjoyed BladeRunner but I don't see it as anything special and think that Scott's work is hugely overrated.


Plenty of foreign films are highly criticaly accliamed does that mean they are good movies? I do not think so and I know many would agree with me they are just to artsy for my tastes.

I agree with you, alot of low budget artfilms aren't as good as some people would have you believe and I perfer action adventure films, but still love all other sorts of films

The BO has been since the early 90's the barometer for a movies success whether you choose to accept this or not is irrelevant since the average public does, see MTV movie awards which eclipse the number of viewers of the emmy's or oscar's and we will not even mention the hundred's of millions who vote in the MTV awards.

Noticed that I've never reviewed SR, I haven't called it a good bad or mediocre movie because...I still haven't seen
it!

Uh no, The MTV movie awards don't get 25% of the oscars ratings and don't even come close to the emmy's ratings.

 

[Freddy_Krueger]

One can only hope that Freddy_Krueger recieved the same punishment since they also ignored your warning and continued to argue after it was posted.

Truth be told, I wasn't trying to argue. I didn't throw out any insults or anything of the like. I even tried to get his opinion on SR's consistent box office the past few weeks, yet all that came out was a slur of insults.

All you can do is shrug your shoulders and say it isn't worth it.

 

[Pickle-El]

Why am I being attacked by the SR haters and lovers? Does that mean I'm doing something right?

It means that you are all over the place....likely because you still haven't seen Superman Returns yet. Your arguments can be relegated to only a few things:

What other percieve
Box Office Results
Critic/User Reviews

I think that's the problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[NateGray]

Noticed that I've never reviewed SR, I haven't called it a good bad or mediocre movie because...I still haven't seen
it!

Uh no, The MTV movie awards don't get 25% of the oscars ratings and don't even come close to the emmy's ratings.

Hmmm I have read and heard that the number of viewers on the MTV movie awards is far higher than either the emmy's or the oscar's? do you have any links showing them to be higher? the only links I have are from MTV and they say they are the highest but then again its there award show sooooooooo I take it with a grain of salt.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It means that you are all over the place....likely because you still haven't seen Superman Returns yet. Your arguments can be relegated to only a few things:

What other percieve
Box Office Results
Critic/User Reviews

I think that's the problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh, you are wrong. My comments are not "all over the place" and how does me not seeing the film effect my judgement on it's boxoffice? The funny thing is the previews, director and storyline kept me away this long. I wonder if those things (minus director) kept other people away. Futher more, I would argue that the lovers and haters can't objectively judge the movie's boxoffice because they let their opinions of the film get in the way, why I on the other hand have no first hand opinion of said film.

 

[Showtime]

It's kind of like how I feel about Spiderman 3. I thought the teaser was awful, so I am hoping for a better trailer. I know that will do amazing BO wise though.

 

[Tempest19]

It's kind of like how I feel about Spiderman 3. I thought the teaser was awful, so I am hoping for a better trailer. I know that will do amazing BO wise though.

I personally believe Sony is playing it smart. That teaser excited MANY people about the film and Sony still hasn't revealed it's "secret weapon" to the public which is unbelievable. Once Casino Royal hits and the public sees- - prepare for Spidey mania. Because on that day, on that day that the trailer hits will be EVERYWHERE!

 

[C. Lee]

No offence, because I know alot of anti SR fans can be pills, but is that the best argument that the fans of SR can come up with? "Boxoffice doesn't equal a good movie." Ofcourse not! But what you are neglecting to mention is that boxoffice doesn't mean that a movie is bad either. I never hear that from people who defend the boxoffice disappointments that they love.

PS. BladeRunner is not all that!

I personally am one who has always said that boxoffice doesn't equate quality.

And BladeRunner is fantastic, I love it. Sometime around the end of the year, there will be a massive BladeRunner DVD release....there will be the original theatrical cut, the current director's cut, and pleanty of extras.

 

[Venom71]

I personally am one who has always said that boxoffice doesn't equate quality.

And BladeRunner is fantastic, I love it. Sometime around the end of the year, there will be a massive BladeRunner DVD release....there will be the original theatrical cut, the current director's cut, and pleanty of extras.

Never have seen that..might have to put it in my Netflix queue.

 

[C. Lee]

Never have seen that..might have to put it in my Netflix queue.

It was underrated at it's release...but many people have copied it since. The director's cut changes the ending (as well as a few other things, but endings always stick in your mind)...but both versions are good. Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, William Sanderson, Daryl Hannah star.

 

[Showtime]

I personally believe Sony is playing it smart. That teaser excited MANY people about the film and Sony still hasn't revealed it's "secret weapon" to the public which is unbelievable. Once Casino Royal hits and the public sees- - prepare for Spidey mania. Because on that day, on that day that the trailer hits will be EVERYWHERE!

I am sure it will be a huge movie that will make huge money and I hope the trailer is better than the teaser. That teaser was a bunch of nothing.

 

[TrailerCues]

I hope the trailer is better than the teaser

Since when has a Spider-Man Trailer has not been better then the Teaser ? Heck if the Comic Con Spider-Man 3 Trailer showed us anything it showed us that we should be in for a treat with a real full trailer

 

[Showtime]

Since when has a Spider-Man Trailer has not been better then the Teaser ? Heck if the Comic Con Spider-Man 3 Trailer showed us anything it showed us that we should be in for a treat with a real full trailer

I am refering to Spiderman 3 and the teaser I saw for that movie. I don't care about Spiderman 1 and 2. I hope the next trailer makes me feel better about the movie and I am sure it will.

 

[TrailerCues]

I am refering to Spiderman 3 and the teaser I saw for that movie. I don't care about Spiderman 1 and 2. I hope the next trailer makes me feel better about the movie and I am sure it will.

& I am referring to how Spider-Man Trailers & not movies get better one right after the other

 

[Showtime]

& I am referring to how Spider-Man Trailers & not movies get better one right after the other

I know what you're refering to. I will see in November.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

It was underrated at it's release...but many people have copied it since. The director's cut changes the ending (as well as a few other things, but endings always stick in your mind)...but both versions are good. Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, William Sanderson, Daryl Hannah star.

For my taste the movie and all of the books based on it are extremely underrated and I love the stories. As for the movie, the FX still hold up, and the production design and clothing/hairstyles were thirty years ahead of their time. I can't wait for the re-release.

 

[buggs0268]

It was underrated at it's release...but many people have copied it since. The director's cut changes the ending (as well as a few other things, but endings always stick in your mind)...but both versions are good. Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, William Sanderson, Daryl Hannah star.

I remember seeing it opening week in 1982. I remember audience reaction was that it looked great, and was a good movie, but it was too out there. I caught on to the fact that it was a homage to all those 30's and 40's hard boiled detective movies, but in the future. I just remember people thought it was too out there at the time. It didn't catch on till it came out on Video and HBO, The Movie Channel, and Showtime.

Off topic, God remember when there were only a few cable channels? I rembember when there was only HBO and it was on from 8:00 am till 12 am. And at the end of the day, they played all the previews of the movies that was going to be on the next month and then it was nothing till 8 in the morning again.

 

[C. Lee]

I remember seeing it opening week in 1982. I remember audience reaction was that it looked great, and was a good movie, but it was too out there. I caught on to the fact that it was a homage to all those 30's and 40's hard boiled detective movies, but in the future. I just remember people thought it was too out there at the time. It didn't catch on till it came out on Video and HBO, The Movie Channel, and Showtime.

I saw it then too...and loved it. Did you know that the theatrical version was a little bit different than the tape version? A couple of bloodier takes on two scenes were added. I grew up watching all those old film noir detective stories and absolutely got what they were doing.

Off topic, God remember when there were only a few cable channels? I rembember when there was only HBO and it was on from 8:00 am till 12 am. And at the end of the day, they played all the previews of the movies that was going to be on the next month and then it was nothing till 8 in the morning again.

Dude....I remember when we only had 3 channels in total of anything to watch....and where I lived, that third channel didn't come in half the time.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

LMAO yeh and you seem to think SR is better than Bladrunner????
Because if so you have no worth to your opinion whatsoever.


Plenty of foreign films are highly criticaly accliamed does that mean they are good movies? I do not think so and I know many would agree with me they are just to artsy for my tastes.

The BO has been since the early 90's the barometer for a movies success whether you choose to accept this or not is irrelevant since the average public does, see MTV movie awards which eclipse the number of viewers of the emmy's or oscar's and we will not even mention the hundred's of millions who vote in the MTV awards.

Okay, if the box office is a barometer of success since the early 90's, that means Shawshank Redemption is crap, Batman Forever is better than Batman Returns, The Martix Reloaded is by far the best movie in the trilogy and the original Matrix is the worst, Titanic is the best movie EVER, Terminator 3:Rise of the Machines is the best movie in the trilogy, Fantastic Four is a better movie than X1, POTC 2 is one of the best movies ever, And The Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars movie.

That is some logic that Nate, perfect. Oh and the MTV movie awards have NOTHING to do with the oscars.

 

[GarudA]

Okay, if the box office is a barometer of success since the early 90's, that means Shawshank Redemption is crap, Batman Forever is better than Batman Returns, The Martix Reloaded is by far the best movie in the trilogy and the original Matrix is the worst, Titanic is the best movie EVER, Terminator 3:Rise of the Machines is the best movie in the trilogy, Fantastic Four is a better movie than X1, POTC 2 is one of the best movies ever, And The Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars movie.

That is some logic that Nate, perfect. Oh and the MTV movie awards have NOTHING to do with the oscars.

He did not imply that success = Good movie, stop twisting what he said.
Boxoffice Success does not = Good movie, Success just says that movie had something and appeal that made people want to see it. To some people Titanic is best movie and to some Matrix is.


Superman Returns was expected to be a massive success by most people. Yes including people here on the hype I remember people saying it would break records because it was Superman.

The question is, why is Superman Returns not a massive success? $100ml on marketing? Tons of Tv spots, tons of magazine, newspaper advertisements? Even on Myspace? It had one of the largest marketing budgets. So why did people still not want to see it?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He did not imply that success = Good movie, stop twisting what he said.
Boxoffice Success does not = Good movie, Success just says that movie had something and appeal that made people want to see it. To some people Titanic is best movie and to some Matrix is.


Superman Returns was expected to be a massive success by most people. Yes including people here on the hype I remember people saying it would break records because it was Superman.

The question is, why is Superman Returns not a massive success? $100ml on marketing? Tons of Tv spots, tons of magazine, newspaper advertisements? Even on Myspace? It had one of the largest marketing budgets. So why did people still not want to see it?

Erm read his post, thats EXACTLY what he said.

 

[GarudA]

Erm read his post, thats EXACTLY what he said.

The BO has been since the early 90's the barometer for a movies success whether you choose to accept this or not is irrelevant since the average public does, see MTV movie awards which eclipse the number of viewers of the emmy's or oscar's and we will not even mention the hundred's of millions who vote in the MTV awards.

No he is talking about Success of the movies, not that it means it is good.

 

[NateGray]

He did not imply that success = Good movie, stop twisting what he said.
Boxoffice Success does not = Good movie, Success just says that movie had something and appeal that made people want to see it. To some people Titanic is best movie and to some Matrix is.


Superman Returns was expected to be a massive success by most people. Yes including people here on the hype I remember people saying it would break records because it was Superman.

The question is, why is Superman Returns not a massive success? $100ml on marketing? Tons of Tv spots, tons of magazine, newspaper advertisements? Even on Myspace? It had one of the largest marketing budgets. So why did people still not want to see it?

Thanks that was some severe twisting of what I posted.