The Dark Knight Rises Lesser Villains that could work?

[JokerLedger]

Alberto Falcone, anyone? He may not exactly be what you are looking for, but it would be awesome. Think about it. If Alberto comes into town and starts a four way war with Batman, the Police, himself, and Maroni, in an attempt to take back control of the family.

He could employ the strengths and talents of Dr. Crane and his alter ego the Scarecrow.

Isn't Maroni dead?

 

[Doc Samson]

I believe that Croc would work nicely. I mean, as an ugly thug who happens to be very strong and very sadistic who is a main enforcer for one of the mobsters.

I always liked the original version of Croc, just a man with a skin disease, rather than the superhuman monster they've turned him into. Since Nolan & co. seem to like to explore the character's first interpretations, a Killer Croc like the original might work

 

[UA-Archangel]

I always liked the original version of Croc, just a man with a skin disease, rather than the superhuman monster they've turned him into. Since Nolan & co. seem to like to explore the character's first interpretations, a Killer Croc like the original might work

Assuming that Big Show could learn to act in time, I'd love to see him assume the role. I can't think of anybody bigger than him to try and take on the Batman.

 

[Doc Samson]

Assuming that Big Show could learn to act in time, I'd love to see him assume the role. I can't think of anybody bigger than him to try and take on the Batman.

LOL, thats a big assumption, Big Show has problems with acting in the ring, but that's another discussion all together (for the record I used to be a huge wrestling fan)

That being said, It would be interesting to see how Nolan would handle Croc, though I doubt he'll feel so inclined....

 

[Laderlappen]

I've been saying Alberto Falcone for the mob boss in the 3rd movie for some time.

 

[The Major]

Did you read what I wrote? I said THEMATICALLY

In other words, what will work within the context of the specific plot of the film. 90% of the villains won't work thematically only a handful will, genius.

We're all speculating here.

The theme and plot of the Batman 3 isn't known by any of us so we're just going in every direction possible.

 

[Coleman Reese]

We're just speculating and having fun here.

Unless you have any inside information on the next movie's specific plot or theme to base villains on.

I don't. No-one else does either. That's why we're going in every creative direction the franchise could go in.

Then have some reasonable basis to speculate. Just sitting there and focusing on which villains will work based on realism is asinine given that Nolan took a ridiculous permawhite character and adapted him to his world. Speculate on the basis of which villain fits thematically which given the two films of this franchise is a prerequisite.

We're all speculating here.

The theme and plot of the Batman 3 isn't known by any of us so we're just going in every direction possible.

WTF? Didn't you just post this on the first page? Here's my response again:

Then have some reasonable basis to speculate. Just sitting there and focusing on which villains will work based on realism is asinine given that Nolan took a ridiculous permawhite character and adapted him to his world. Speculate on the basis of which villain fits thematically which given the two films of this franchise is a prerequisite.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Alberto Falcone, anyone? He may not exactly be what you are looking for, but it would be awesome. Think about it. If Alberto comes into town and starts a four way war with Batman, the Police, himself, and Maroni, in an attempt to take back control of the family.

He could employ the strengths and talents of Dr. Crane and his alter ego the Scarecrow.

As much as I'd love to see Alberto with his purple shades and all, I'd be a tad repetitive;

Falcone goes insane in BB.
Then in TDK: "Someone had to fill the gap Falcone left'' -- cue Maroni, Maroni is whacked by Two-Face.
Batman3: ''Someone had to fill the gap Maroni left'' - -cue Alberto Falcone.

Nah, I think that the old school Mobster element is definitely done with. Atleast with the big mob bosses. They were all killed by freaks. I guess they left some of those small-timers, thugs and hoodlums. But no-one brave enough to take over. Ofcourse those guys are looking for a job....so, it's time for the reign of the freaks!

 

[ThePoisonPuppet]

As much as I'd love to see Alberto with his purple shades and all, I'd be a tad repetitive;

Falcone goes insane in BB.
Then in TDK: "Someone had to fill the gap Falcone left'' -- cue Maroni, Maroni is whacked by Two-Face.
Batman3: ''Someone had to fill the gap Maroni left'' - -cue Alberto Falcone.

Nah, I think that the old school Mobster element is definitely done with. Atleast with the big mob bosses. They were all killed by freaks. I guess they left some of those small-timers, thugs and hoodlums. But no-one brave enough to take over. Ofcourse those guys are looking for a job....so, it's time for the reign of the freaks!

Queue in Black Mask or Penguin. Though I'd rather see them as corporate sleeze ball villains then mob booses.

 

[crazyrabbits]

Firefly- see the beginning of Leathal Weapon 4.

I was going to mention that. As a minor villain in a single scene (to show how Gotham's violence is escalating), he'd probably be one of the most adaptable villains. Show him breaking into a police station and trying to napalm the officers, then Batman shows up and has a brutal confrontation with him.

 

[3x0dus]

Lots of speculation about Catwoman and The Riddler, but what about taking a character with lesser name value and writing them into this 3rd movie with some strong character-driven material and a good backstory?

This one is easy...​

• The Reaper is basically Batman without Batman's one rule that was such a point of emphasis in The Dark Knight...The Reaper won't hesitate to kill in all his glorified vigilance. That's a built-in plot point if there ever was one, that is, the battle between two vigilantes with only that single difference in their proverbial mission statement
• In Batman: Year Two, The Reaper (Judson Caspian) had a daughter named Rachel...so re-write the history books a little bit, make Rachel Dawes his daughter or sister, and you've got your motivation behind the vigilante that is The Reaper. He's out to purge Gotham of the slime she fought against as a DA, except he'll kill them vengefully rather than try to bring them before the law in a just manner as she would have. Furthermore, why not tack some of the blame for her demise on fellow vigilante Batman?​
• It's a bit of a neat storyline element if you consider Batman is on the run posing to have done something he didn't necessarily do, and then along comes another vigilante who actually does the things they're chasing Batman for. Maybe a sort of "be careful what you wish for" type of thing where the vigilante is murdering people and doing horrible things, and Batmans one rule brings him into the forefront. You'd have Batman dodging authorities in order to get to The Reaper and stop his killing.​
• To make an excellent conclusion to the series of movies, we come full circle - Bruce is once again staring the vengeance versus justice argument right in the face. Two vigilantes on opposite sides of the same coin. While The Reaper fights in Rachels memory with vengeance, Batman must now do so with justice. The Reaper is the embodiment of Rachels argument although he commits his vengeful acts on her behalf, which equates in The Reapers mind to Batman fighting against Rachels goal against criminals even though Batman is standing up for her ideals of justice​
• In Year Two, The Reaper was Gothams first vigilante. This could be tweaked, although it doesn't have to be. Playing a bit off the League of Shadows material from Begins, maybe some links could be drawn between Reapers knowledge of similar tactics to Batmans, the League of Shadows first attempt the unravel Gotham, and as a way to perhaps introduce Talia Al Ghul and a storyline element that picks a bit as Ras Al Ghul and questions his fate within the storyline of the movies (IE: his survival? or just his remaining influence over those who knew him, such as his daughter?)​

Following off that note...



TALIA AL GHUL

• You've got the built-in semi-backstory involving her father Ras from Begins, and again, a legacy left behind. For Batman to see activity resembling that of the League of Shadows taking place would certainly stir controversy up regarding Ras and what impact or repercussions his death may have caused
• If you do have Catwoman in the mix, maybe it would be interesting to have dueling love interests - possibly Talia trying to lure Bruce away from the ways of Batman to further her own agenda, while Catwoman keeps luring him back in

This one could take some tweaking, but it's easily doable...​

• With Dr. Thomas Elliot as Hush, there's already built-in sub-plot - Elliot holds a grudge against the Wayne family due to Thomas Wayne thwarting Elliots attempt to kill his mother by saving her life​
• If you're going to bring The Riddler into the movie, his association with Hush could be one way to do it...as for Riddler and the story elements of Hush that involve Ras Al Ghul's lazarus pits, well...who knows?​
• This story involved heavy relationship material betwee Batman and Catwoman...including their team-up, each revealing their true identities to the other, and most noteably the ending in which Batman declares he cannot trust her and they go their seperate ways. Sounds like an easy way to end the 3rd movie to me if you take the route of a teased relationship throughout the movie, only to end it with the most obvious outcome of Catwoman on the run from Batman due to their conflict of interests in spite of their romantic link​
• Joker was a part of this story. His involvement could be altereobvious reasons, but not necessarily lessened so much​

 

[Mistah K88]

|Hmm, lesser known Batman viallins huh...maybe the...Terrible Trio? They fit the people dressing up as animals bill...and only need one scene where they are stopped from pulling thier crime...

 

[ThePoisonPuppet]

|Hmm, lesser known Batman viallins huh...maybe the...Terrible Trio? They fit the people dressing up as animals bill...and only need one scene where they are stopped from pulling thier crime...

An opening scene stopping a set of villains like Terrible Trio from committing a small crime like a break into a lab or jewelry store would be nice. It would show the transition to freaks well without throwing out a criminal with a good story and be a nice nod to the hardcore fans.

 

[Rasputin911]

Maxie Zeus!!!!!!!

 

[ross2287]

Crazy Quilt, dammit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Quilt

 

[Matt.S99]

The only lesser known villain i would be willing to see are Talia and Firefly.

 

[Lightning54SC]

everyone keeps forgetting about

Guy Pearce

 

[Matt.S99]

Guy Pearce is an actor ,not a Batman character....

 

[luca_frontino]

Anarky