The Wolverine Let The Claws Do The Talking - Rate & Review "The Wolverine"

[Infinity9999x]

He would have suddenly shown up 60+ years younger, there would have been problems. I don't need everything spoon fed to me, I can figure things out on my own. Japan is a traditional place, and Mutants are still hated a feared. At the very least, Yashida would have had some serious explaining to do.

Again, even if people didnt like it, what could they do? There would be no legal grounds to take his control of his company away, and he still would be the most powerful person in Japan. People might not like it..,but that's about it. And it was never insinuated once that he orchestrated the whole scheme to avoid people being displeased with him getting younger.

 

[Loki882]

How do you know that there would be no legal grounds, are you familiar with Japanese law?

 

[Infinity9999x]

How do you know that there would be no legal grounds, are you familiar with Japanese law?

Because no such law exists in our world, and because it was never specified in the film. If this were the main reason this man had to fake his death (a huge plotpoint) you have to make the reason why he did clear. They didnt, and that was sloppy writing.

 

[Loki882]

This isn't our world, it's the world of X-Men, so real world rules don't really apply. Also, just because it wasn't specified doesn't mean that it wasn't there, I got his reasoning right away.

 

[Incredible Hans]

I'm surprised.

The Wolverine was better than MOS (and MOS was better than IM3).

So for me, The Wolverine will be the best superhero movie in 2013 unless Thor does better in November.

I really didn't expect that.

 

[Lord]

How do you know that there would be no legal grounds, are you familiar with Japanese law?

Because Japanese laws are so different from the rest of the world's, hey look, the film shows ninjas running around! So there must be a law prepared for people who come back to life

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Because no such law exists in our world, and because it was never specified in the film. If this were the main reason this man had to fake his death (a huge plotpoint) you have to make the reason why he did clear. They didnt, and that was sloppy writing.

he's a powerful man, he was probably going to have his family wiped out, and then claim he's a long lost son or something. He's powerful enough to by pass any genetic testing or what not and not have anyone question

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's not a plot hole, and it has nothing to do with the fantastical world the X-Men movies live in. Just follow the facts that were presented in the film and you can rationalize that:

- Yashida's body gave out before he was able to acquire the cure from Logan. That is the reason he faked his death at that particular time.

- He segued control of the company to Mariko so that he could easily take it back and/or control her once he did attain the cure

There is no telling what he would have done with the company if his plan worked, because it didn't. So arguing that point is futile. But it's not a plot hole, nor is it forced if you actually follow the story.

 

[BlackFox]

I find it funny that fox pumped out all that imagery of Jackman with the Katana in alot of their ads. Would have liked to see that too, a little less of the hacking from X1 and slashing from x2.

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Though it does seem that stuff was more geared to the eastern markets, given the fonts.

Yeah really wanted to see Logan use a katana in one scene at least, I know he's got the claws but would have been a nice moment.

 

[Double B]

I'm surprised.

The Wolverine was better than MOS (and MOS was better than IM3).

So for me, The Wolverine will be the best superhero movie in 2013 unless Thor does better in November.

I really didn't expect that.

I know.

Shock of the year.

 

[danoyse]

Yeah really wanted to see Logan use a katana in one scene at least, I know he's got the claws but would have been a nice moment.

I'm still getting over Logan's [BLACKOUT]do-it-yourself heart surgery. Whoa...[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Moridin]

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I don't buy the implication that it wouldn't be a big deal if Yashida would have revealed himself 60 years younger and still retained leadership of his company.

Agreed.

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Though it's not even just about people having a problem with Yashida being younger. Would anyone even believe it? From the publics point of view, they who knew Yashida was on his deathbed for quite a while, then he's gone and this new young guy shows up claiming to actually be Yashida.

How would he prove he is who he claims to be? Showing how he murdered another man[mutant], & stole his life force? (which ). That would garner huge public interest (& bring up the other side of the "mutants who just want to be normal" coin, "normals who want mutants powers". As well as really attracting the wrong type of attention from Brotherhood type mutants). Yashida would be world famous, he would never have peace.

Much easier to fake his death, pass the crown to the easily manipulated (as he sees her, at least) Mariko, & rule from the shadows.

 

[BlackFox]

I'm surprised.

The Wolverine was better than MOS (and MOS was better than IM3).

So for me, The Wolverine will be the best superhero movie in 2013 unless Thor does better in November.

I really didn't expect that.

I was convinced, utterly convinced, that MoS was going to be my favourite CBM of the year, the trailers looked so good and the tone perfect. I must have watched those trailers 20 damn times. The final thing was good, but just quite came together and blew me away like I thought it would.

IM3 was overhyped for me, was told it was better than Avengers best in the series and while it did entertain it was nothing of the sort, almost trying too hard to be funny at times, never taking itself very seriously, not really anything new, the Mandarin twist sort of lost me and then when Gwyneth Paltrow started glowing orange I kind of lost complete interest.

I didnt even realise there was a wolverine film until May, I wasnt even going to bother with it

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I still haven't seen it, he doesn't use a katana at least once???

 

[BlackFox]

I still haven't seen it, he doesn't use a katana at least once???

Sadly no

 

[BlackFox]

I'm still getting over Logan's [BLACKOUT]do-it-yourself heart surgery. Whoa...[/BLACKOUT]

I think we all are, I'v never heard an audience whince quite like that in the UK.

 

[J_Howlett]

It's so good because he does it without hesitation.

 

[LostSon88]

R-Rated version may make the my favourite of the series t:

Has a R-rated Directors but been confirmed?

 

[danoyse]

Has a R-rated Directors but been confirmed?

That it exists? Yes. When we're going to see it released? Not yet.

 

[BlackFox]

Has a R-rated Directors but been confirmed?

By the director himself via twitter yes.

Of course Fox still have to distribute it.

 

[LostSon88]

Nice.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I loved the Nagasaki scenes. In fact, I thought they were best use of the 3D (which the movie didn't really need otherwise). I loved that shot from the bottom of the well, where you could see how Logan was holding himself up by his claws at the top of the well. That was an amazing shot.

But yeah, I agree...seeing him vulnerable was one of the best parts of the movie. He really had no idea how process that. I loved Mariko's answer at the vet's office, when he said he'd never need 'this' before, and she said, "Help?". That was great. He was supposed to be rescuing her, but wound up needing her to rescue him.

I think the Nagasaki scenes and the fight between Logan and Shingen were my favorite parts. Just the sheer force and velocity of Wolverine when he was fighting him. With the music, all of this was so earned from what happened to him before without his healing powers. This was one of the few times where despite the fact his healing abilities came back, you now were completely invested in what he was doing and fighting for.

They got Wolverine so right in this film. Not that they didn't get him right in the Singer films, but this was really the time we got to see him on his own to get to know him.

I also loved the "Don't hurt my friends" line. That is so Logan.

 

[BobJM]

I think the Nagasaki scenes and the fight between Logan and Shingen were my favorite parts. Just the sheer force and velocity of Wolverine when he was fighting him. With the music, all of this was so earned from what happened to him before without his healing powers. This was one of the few times where despite the fact his healing abilities came back, you now were completely invested in what he was doing and fighting for.

They got Wolverine so right in this film. Not that they didn't get him right in the Singer films, but this was really the time we got to see him on his own to get to know him.

I also loved the "Don't hurt my friends" line. That is so Logan.

This just made me grin as I was reading it--I totally agree. Jackman really nailed it this time and with this great script, it really felt like a perfect fusion of comic book/movie Wolverine.

Jackman is as iconic/inseparable to Wolverine is as RDJ is to IM in that I can't really see anyone else in the role right now (or at least, no where near as good). Reeves, Bale, Ledger, etc. were all great, but their characters continue beyond them.

Jackman IS the Wolverine. Great, great movie.

 

[Marvin]

Two big decisions really hurt the film for me, especially the more I think about them.

1. Fox(and jackman) seemingly didn't learn from the first outing but they tried to use that heart monitor dead wolverine trope again and I fear it's just too forced. Not just because the audience isn't capable of being duped into thinking it's protagonist is going to die as the 3rd act begins in a conventional summer film. But also because, this is kinda the thesis of how the characters powers work. This isn't magneto or something. Wolverine is all about healing from anything..
I just hope they stop making films where we have an operation or some sort and wolverine "might die", even if he's powers are shut off, kinda maybe.
I suppose some people get sucked into the dramatization of it all, I personally find it to be an under estimation of the audience.

2. Having the films best swordsman(as set up in the film), and antagonist to the Logan, then fight him sword to claw.....JUST AFTER WOLVERINE IS BACK TO 100%.
Ignoring how much of a missed opportunity this is for our lead character to show some real heart/guts and maybe even a non natural skill or two, by overcoming something like this in a film with eastern sensibilities no less.
It's just again, bad plot staging. Wolverine in my mind when in healhty fighting shape is hulk level unstoppable, that is the hulk has a hard time stopping him. What's this swordsman going to do to him in a fair fight, seriously? Keep slashing at his face...
Again, I just think it's a missed opportunity, would have been great to see logan fight that girls father man to man. You don't get many opportunities to like that with Wolverine. You get plenty with Batman..not Logan.

Actually I think they could have had that stab to the heart rectify the whole suppressor situation.

For me, the film could have been better.
I already mentioned the bandages on the knuckles and hesitation towards constantly re-opening the wounds, perhaps bloody claws.
I think even Aranofski wouldn't have missed that opportunity.

I also think they def should have cut off the hand and had it grow back with no alloy. That would have been pretty cool going into an AOA type of future. But that's just fan fiction.

 

[The Infernal]

Sadly no

He kinda does with the Silver Samurai (briefly), bit it's not really the same. It is a shame he didn't fight Shingen or SS with a proper Katana. It does seem like an obvious missed opportunity and is a bit annoying given all the cool posters depicting him wielding a sword in one hand and his claws popped out in another.

I think we all are, I'v never heard an audience whince quite like that in the UK.

I rarely hear audience members make much noises other than laughing at jokes or the occasional 'aww' at something cute, but I once heard a women scream watching TDK when Harvey Dent is in the hospital and turns his head and yells at Jim Gordon revealing his Two-Face persona. That made me laugh.