Endgame Lets Talk Avengers 4 and what we know #Spoilers?

[scarlet-witch]

I wouldn't mind a Quicksilver flashback in some capacity tbh. I always hated that they killed him off in AOU.

 

[Iceman]

It was a waste of a death. And he went out with a quip.

 

[JohnSuperguy]

It was a waste of a death. And he went out with a quip.

Yeah it's too bad they can't bring him back from the dead

 

[pixen]

I mean... they could.

 

[JohnSuperguy]

I mean... they could.

How?

 

[HammerDown]

Decided to make a list of stuff we know related to Avengers 4. These are thing based on set reports, interviews, actors leaking stuff accidentally, merchandise leaks... If you guys know of some interesting stuff feel free to say it and i'll add to the list. It's a good way of keeping track to this sort of stuff.

Update!
New stuff in bold.

AVENGERS 4

• Iron Man, Nebula, Cap, Thor, War Machine, Black Widow, Rocket, Okoye, Banner/Hulk, Ant-Man... are alive after the snap.
• Captain Marvel joins the fight against Thanos.
• Hulk and Banner merge completely into one persona. Smart Hulk wears a suit.
• Pepper Pots uses a version of the Iron Man suit. The Rescue armour. The purple/blue and white one.
• Valkyrie escaped with some asgardians in the beginning of IW.
  
• Thor, Valkyrie, Rocket, Hulk… go to Hel. Meeting Hela? (Frigga? - Thor’s mother) and Loki are also there.
• Hulk and Rocket have a funny relationship.
• Cap, Iron Man, Hulk and Ant-Man are seen in the battle of New York. Captain America has the same look as in the Avengers. Iron Man has a Shield outfit. Thor has mjolnir. They are using devices on their hands similar to watches. The BARF technology is used in that scene.
• Hulk seems to be homeless while walking in NY alley with a bindle.
  
• Iron Man, Thor and Loki have a scene together, the asgardians sport the same looks from Avengers while Iron Man seems to be part of Shield. Loki is captured and i being escorted by a Shield special team.
• Gamora and Nebula have scenes together. Both have the same looks as from the first GOTG.
• Gamora, Nebula, Ant-Man and The Wasp have a scene together.
• Captain Marvel, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Rocket, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nebula and War Machine are in Titan together.
• Cap and Black Widow have a scene together in a bar/dinner.
• Drax and the Guardians come back.
• Iron Man is seen in Wakanda.
• The Ancient One is in the movie. (Maybe in a scene with the Hulk/Banner... and Crossbones? Or it might be just another flashback)
• Scene with “everyone”. Winter Soldier, Nick Fury, Hank Pym, Janet Van Dyne...
• Thanos at one point fights Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man...
• There’s a scene with Shuri and Star Lord.
• Happy Hogan is in the movie.
• Thanos uses his golden plated armour with the fully assembled gauntlet. Are also has a 2 edged staff sword.
• Thanos left arm is damaged by the “Snap”.
• There are some scenes set in Tokyo with Black Widow, Ronin and japanese gangsters in the rain.
• Hawkeye now looks like Ronin. Complete with a black and gold suit, a mask, a sword...
• Ant Man’s daughter will be portrayed by a much older actress.
• Pepper Potts is married to Tony Stark and they have a child.
• Scene with Doctor Strange and Spider-Man. “Peter protect them they are not dead”.
• Doctor Strange talks about the Quantum Realm to Spider-Man.
• Scene in a english pub called The Cormorant and Tun with Black Widow, Thor, Banner…
• Peggy Carter is in the movie.
• A scene in the 1940’s with Captain America.
• Crossbones appears in a flashback.
• There’s a scene in a spaceship with the heroes talking to each other. Captain America, Black Widow, Pepper Potts, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, Rocket…
• Gamorra has a scene with Iron Man, Pepper Potts in the Rescue armor, War Machine, Spider-Man and Hulk.
• Thor, Rocket, Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Nebula, Hulk and Black Widow have matching "space/tech/quantum realm" suits. It's an Avengers uniform. Thor has Stormbreaker, Rocket a big gun and Captain America his traditional shield.
• The Avengers have a team vehicle. War Machine has his own vehicle.

 

[Nathaniell]

It’s a well known idea based on solid hints from previous movies, filming for Avengers 4, special locations and specific cast members... I have posted that particular “theory” several times before but i can’t find it now.

Basically the idea is based on the vision Thor had in Age of Ultron in which he was in Hel and he was surrounded by “dead” asgardians and Heimdall who had no eyes. Also there was a suspicious female hooded figure that passed by Thor, someone Thor had a good look at but apparently couldn’t see her face...

As we know Hela’s future in the MCU was left open to interpretation after Ragnarok. Can the goddess of death really die? While filming Avengers 4 the Russo’s where in a cathedral that the interior looked exactly the same as the vision Thor had in AOU. Also Cate Blanchett had a behind the scenes interview in which she was next to a statue that has been only seen in that Hel vision and the cathedral used for A4.

Chris Hemsworth, Mark Ruffalo, Tessa Thompson, Tom Hiddleston... where all filming in that location...

It’s a solid theory.

Oh boy. Fun theory. I would more than to see Hel and Hela's return. I love her more than Lady Death.

 

[pixen]

I mean... they could.

Well, if time travel/the quantum realm leads them to going into alternative realities... it could be used to get him back... though nothings really confirmed. Just a thought.

 

[KBX]

When in hell are we getting news when the A4 trailer will drop! It’s mid November damnit!

 

[AvengerPA]

The Captain Marvel Prelude Comic reveals secrets of what happened between Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Infinity War.
How Captain America's Secret Avengers Remained So Secret in the MCU

 

[Iceman]

The Captain Marvel Prelude Comic reveals secrets of what happened between Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Infinity War.
How Captain America's Secret Avengers Remained So Secret in the MCU

Oh sweet, will check this out asap.

 

[TheVileOne]

Just want to put this out there:

Spoiler

If Captain America's story somehow ends with him getting revived and/or sent back to 1940s to be with Peggy and he finds her after he flew off to drop the bomber...I will get triggered.

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

I need this trailer! Argh, I keep playing this song on loop as it was used for the Infinity War Phase 3 announcement video! Epic.

 

[AvengerPA]

Avengers 4 Captain Marvel Prequel Teaser and New Plot Synopsis Breakdown

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Spoiler

If Captain America's story somehow ends with him getting revived and/or sent back to 1940s to be with Peggy and he finds her after he flew off to drop the bomber...I will get triggered.

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I wouldnt mind the "revived" but only in the capacity of Skrull Invasion (and he's a skrull in disguise). Barring that, I can't think of a way I'd enjoy that.

But, regarding be with peggy... that would be weird would rewrite the entire course of history. Which, of course would be one way of reversing the snap.

Queue Bill and Ted-esque sequence, Stephen and Steve's excellent adventure. "Cap, you have to remember to tell your former girlfriend to find Carol Danvers. She's our only hope."

 

[Iceman]

Just want to put this out there:

Spoiler

If Captain America's story somehow ends with him getting revived and/or sent back to 1940s to be with Peggy and he finds her after he flew off to drop the bomber...I will get triggered.

Well that’s something I didn’t think of!

 

[Xeno]

Just want to put this out there:

Spoiler

If Captain America's story somehow ends with him getting revived and/or sent back to 1940s to be with Peggy and he finds her after he flew off to drop the bomber...I will get triggered.

Triggered? Why?

I woukd be elated if that happened. Steve & Peggy would have their happy ending with the possibility that their child(ren) could show up down the line. It woukd neatly wrap up Steve's story by ensuring that he can't come back to the team even though he survives. That would be perfect, but of course it's not going to happen.

 

[TheVileOne]

Triggered? Why?

I woukd be elated if that happened. Steve & Peggy would have their happy ending with the possibility that their child(ren) could show up down the line. It woukd neatly wrap up Steve's story by ensuring that he can't come back to the team even though he survives. That would be perfect, but of course it's not going to happen.

Spoiler

So screw Peggy's husband and the children they had together, right? I ****ing hate that.

 

[Aximili86]

Ehh, if they're indeed writing Chris out and doing alternate forking timeline stuff with gauntlet wizardry/quantum realm shenanigans, I could kinda get on board with that.

Have no idea how they'd bring Cap back with a new actor down the road though, but it'd be a nice little ending for Steve without killing him, assuming they had the balls to do it. Skeptical they would, but it's interesting to think about.

 

[TheVileOne]

Ehh, if they're indeed writing Chris out and doing alternate forking timeline stuff with gauntlet wizardry/quantum realm shenanigans, I could kinda get on board with that.

Have no idea how they'd bring Cap back with a new actor down the road though, but it'd be a nice little ending for Steve without killing him, assuming they had the balls to do it. Skeptical they would, but it's interesting to think about.

I still don't like it. If they do that, I can't accept it.

 

[Xeno]

Spoiler

So screw Peggy's husband and the children they had together, right? I ****ing hate that.

Yes, if that's what happens. One timeline is erased and another takes its place. Fans have eagerly speculated that Tony & Pepper will have a child who must be sacrificed/erased to undo the snap. This wouldn't be different from that.

It's not like we know Peggy's family and care about them personally. And she wouldn't remember them or miss the life she had in the current timeline if things retroactively changed. In essence, Steve and Peggy would be living entirely different lives in an entirely different universe. That would finally give them a happy ending, which suits me just fine.

(No need to use spoiler tags for spec in this thead since "spoilers" is in the title.)

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah. If they did go that route (don't think they will personally, but it'd be intriguing) it wouldn't really be some affront to Peggy's family. They'd have still existed in the origial timeline, it'd just be going back to the 40s and forking off a new timeline. Back To The Future style. Peggy's original family/kids with the unknown veteran guy would still exist in the old/original/MCU-up-to-now timeline, just not in the hypothetical new one.

It'd work. I just don't think they'll do it because it'd sort of paint you into a corner in terms of bringing Steve back in future with a new actor, he'd have his arc and a nice little resolution happily-ever-after story in the past. Can't see them doing it, but then again I can't see them killing Steve freakin' Rogers for-really-real either.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes, if that's what happens. One timeline is erased and another takes its place. Fans have eagerly speculated that Tony & Pepper will have a child who must be sacrificed/erased to undo the snap. This wouldn't be different from that.

It's not like we know Peggy's family and care about them personally. And she wouldn't remember them or miss the life she had in the current timeline if things retroactively changed. In essence, Steve and Peggy would be living entirely different lives in an entirely different universe. That would finally give them a happy ending, which suits me just fine.

(No need to use spoiler tags for spec in this thead since "spoilers" is in the title.)

I think it's trash.

 

[Abudefduf]

I agree. They'd better not erase anything that happened in the previous movies. Well, except for the Snap, of course.

 

[Iceman]

I really like the idea, but I also am a bit too uncomfortable with it to actively want it for the same reasons as Vile. Can you imagine some happy ending for the world where your dad meets a different woman to your mum or vice versa? It seems like unnecessarily uncomfortable stuff when you're looking for a fully happy ending for Cap. As I said I really like the idea otherwise and it would have been a great end to the story if Peggy hadn't already had a family. Going backwards in time to before it happened doesn't actually wipe that out. Otherwise if someone told you you were going to have a horrendous time for the next 50 years and then time would reverse it all out, you would be ok with it.