Endgame Lets Talk Avengers 4 and what we know #Spoilers?

Anybody else think Scott may be in a different reality when he sees Cap & Nat in the trailer? The after credits scene from CM shows Cap still has his beard but in the trailer Cap is clean shaven & in his WS outfit. It's got me thinking Scott's in an alternate reality.

Nope, the scene where Ant-Man appears must be from later in the movie. He was absent from the clip shown to the shareholders, so that means that he is still trapped in the quantum realm by the time Carol appears and persuades the others to go find Thanos at his planet.
 
I can't see CM sitting idle for years or a months until Scott appears, and I can't see Cap staying back from a fight if she leaves Earth to find Thanos.
 
I can't see CM sitting idle for years or a months until Scott appears, and I can't see Cap staying back from a fight if she leaves Earth to find Thanos.

You need to read the description of the scene shown to Disney shareholders.
 
You need to read the description of the scene shown to Disney shareholders.

From what I read there was no mention of Scott in the scene, and from the leaked images of years ago now, we saw Tony in a Shield shirt, Cap in the A1 suit, and now in the trailer what looks like the TWS suit. I think you're right about that leaked scene taking place within a week of the snap, but I'm still thinking Ant-Man travels realities. Besides what joy do they take in killing Thanos if he's already won, because it doesn't change anything. They still have to undo the damage, and make Dr.Stranges's one alternative future become reality.

Also odd no mention of Tony.
 
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I think after returning to Earth, Tony takes a well deserved hiatus and goes home to be with Pepper. That would explain his absence.
 
A short hiatus... he'll obviously be called back into action.
 
He was drifting in space for days without food and water, and was stabbed in the gut with a big blade.
I'd say he has earned a few days off.
 
My theory:

Tony comes back to Earth with Nebula. The team decides to go to Thanos. Tony retreats into his lab because he can't face him again. Cap v. Tony again because Tony knows they're on a hopeless mission, but Cap can't sit around while people are dead. Banner sticks with Tony since he still can't Hulk out.

Cap M and Thor believe they can kill Thanos together. The team of Cap, Cap M, Thor, Rocket, Nebula, War Machine, and Widow get their asses kicked. Thor dies and goes to Valhalla. War Machine most likely dies. Nebula gets imprisoned or disassembled by Thanos.

Scott gets out of the Quantum Realm and goes to Tony's on the West Coast. Shuri will be with them too. So we will have Scott, Tony, Banner, and Shuri working on quantum tech and a way to go through time vortices to get what they need. I'd expect them to do something with the whole "infinity stone syncing with a body" thing since all but the soul and time stones have bonded to DNA. From that, they'll find a way to copy the stones through showing up at the points in time where the stones are near each other. Also allows for some comedy with them showing up and confusing past versions.

Thor will be dead and in Valhalla but find some small piece of plot necessary information that will lead to him being resurrected and contributing to the reversal of the snap.

Widow will be tasked with finding Hawkeye so he can help guard the quantum realm entrance. I also expect there will be a plan to lure Thanos to them to attempt to steal the soul stone from him, which Hawkeye will probably do.

End of movie would be Thanos attacking the Avengers compound and the snap being reversed, leading to the big 'every hero at once' v. Thanos battle and Cap's 'Avengers Assemble' moment.

There is clever editing in that final scene from the trailer, but I'm certain it's not a scene. It's Scott outside of Tony's cut with Tony's return.
 
Shuri got dusted. You see her as one of the missing in the first trailer.
 
1 character who seems dead. i.e. no rumours or murmurs at all is vision. seems completely down? only thing that suggests he could live is the rumoured scarlet withc and vision tv series
 
My theory:

Tony comes back to Earth with Nebula. The team decides to go to Thanos. Tony retreats into his lab because he can't face him again. Cap v. Tony again because Tony knows they're on a hopeless mission, but Cap can't sit around while people are dead. Banner sticks with Tony since he still can't Hulk out.

Cap M and Thor believe they can kill Thanos together. The team of Cap, Cap M, Thor, Rocket, Nebula, War Machine, and Widow get their asses kicked. Thor dies and goes to Valhalla. War Machine most likely dies. Nebula gets imprisoned or disassembled by Thanos.

Scott gets out of the Quantum Realm and goes to Tony's on the West Coast. Shuri will be with them too. So we will have Scott, Tony, Banner, and Shuri working on quantum tech and a way to go through time vortices to get what they need. I'd expect them to do something with the whole "infinity stone syncing with a body" thing since all but the soul and time stones have bonded to DNA. From that, they'll find a way to copy the stones through showing up at the points in time where the stones are near each other. Also allows for some comedy with them showing up and confusing past versions.

Thor will be dead and in Valhalla but find some small piece of plot necessary information that will lead to him being resurrected and contributing to the reversal of the snap.

Widow will be tasked with finding Hawkeye so he can help guard the quantum realm entrance. I also expect there will be a plan to lure Thanos to them to attempt to steal the soul stone from him, which Hawkeye will probably do.

End of movie would be Thanos attacking the Avengers compound and the snap being reversed, leading to the big 'every hero at once' v. Thanos battle and Cap's 'Avengers Assemble' moment.

There is clever editing in that final scene from the trailer, but I'm certain it's not a scene. It's Scott outside of Tony's cut with Tony's return.

1) According to the footage shown to Disney shareholders, Banner goes along with the rest of the team to find Thanos.

2) War Machine is shown during the Superbowl spot along with Ant-Man getting ready for a mission.
 
There is clever editing in that final scene from the trailer, but I'm certain it's not a scene. It's Scott outside of Tony's cut with Tony's return.

I like the whole theory. Especially this part for one big reason. Scott would've had to drive that van cross country to get to the Avengers compound. But Tony's Malibu house if it was re-built is potentially just a few hours down the road.

Only issue I have though is in the leak Nebula is supposed to go with them after Thanos, and Cap has his beard when Cap M shows up. Anyone know if Cap had the beard in the investor footage?
 
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I wouldn't put it past them to have filmed two scenes, one with RDJ and one without, just to fool us. I'm not saying he's dead, but he may be off doing something else. This is clearly meant to be the heroic group shot, and they can't show one from the finale without giving away who returns.
 
Wonder if this is before Tony's return on the Milano and running out of water and food. hmmm

But Ant-Man is there which could mean the time travel piece is over, which doesn't seem right.
 
It's a spoiler for sure that Tony Stark and Nebula get back to Earth.
But then again who is really that surprised...
 
I kinda hope Ross didn't get dusted so he can watch all this unfold. . . . . Talking hyper-intellegent ******* raccoons, Space cyborgs with daddy issues, Gods from other planets, Super Soldiers, Super Duper Soldiers, and a bunch of wise-asses as creations best hope. Then there's him with a piece of paper saying they should be criminals.
 
I have a feeling Carol might be somewhat disposed of early on in the film. Particularly after they go to The Garden early on. Because she doesn't seem to be present in that last shot, nor do her toys seem to come with that QR suit. Maybe Thanos keeps her.
 
I have a feeling Carol might be somewhat disposed of early on in the film. Particularly after they go to The Garden early on. Because she doesn't seem to be present in that last shot, nor do her toys seem to come with that QR suit. Maybe Thanos keeps her.
I seriously doubt that. Apparently she doesn't need a suit to travel in the QR.
Samuel L Jackson said that she could time travel and the others couldn't. He later backtracked those comments but i have a feeling that he accidentally let that spoiler slip.
 
I seriously doubt that. Apparently she doesn't need a suit to travel in the QR.
Samuel L Jackson said that she could time travel and the others couldn't. He later backtracked those comments but i have a feeling that he accidentally let that spoiler slip.
Even then, she doesn't seem to appear in that group shot.

Sure, I think she'll be back by the end. But I think she may be sitting out for the middle of the film for one reason or another.
 
Even then, she doesn't seem to appear in that group shot.

Sure, I think she'll be back by the end. But I think she may be sitting out for the middle of the film for one reason or another.
Thor and Rocket don't appear either. Maybe they are going on a separate mission.
 

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