The Dark Knight Likes And Dislikes

[Conebone69]

Since theres a "concern thread" I thought I'd make something somewhat similar but this is straight and to the point. What do you like and dislike about the movie so far?

Heres my dislikes:

Atmosphere

Less serious tone

Dialouge (from what I've heard)

Not as dark as BB


Likes:

Batsuit

Batpod

Jokers look/personality

Dent being the backbone of the film

Cinematography

Partly IMAX

All the subplots

And theres a bunch more but just cant think of em all

 

[redfirebird2008]

Less serious tone? Ummm...WHAT? The trailers are designed to convince the average Joe to go see the movie. That doesn't mean it has a lighter tone than Batman Begins. In fact, I think it will have a darker tone. That line where Bruce says, "I see now what I have to become to stop men like him" should be proof enough to you that Bruce is going to hit rock bottom in this movie emotionally, mentally, and probably physically as well. The Joker is a terrorist for all intents and purposes. Except at least in the real world most terrorists have an actual political agenda. The Joker doesn't. All he wants to do is create as much chaos as possible. That tends to be a pretty dark feature for a summer blockbuster movie. At least Ra's thought he was saving the world with his brand of terrorism. The Joker isn't misguided at all. He knows exactly what he's doing and he enjoys the hell out of it. And it makes it all the more frightening to think that someone like this could exist in the real world. Add in Harvey's tragedy and I don't see how this movie could be lighter in tone than Batman Begins.

 

[Conebone69]

Less serious tone? Ummm...WHAT? The trailers are designed to convince the average Joe to go see the movie. That doesn't mean it has a lighter tone than Batman Begins. In fact, I think it will have a darker tone. That line where Bruce says, "I see now what I have to become to stop men like him" should be proof enough to you that Bruce is going to hit rock bottom in this movie emotionally, mentally, and probably physically as well. The Joker is a terrorist for all intents and purposes. Add in Harvey's tragedy and I don't see how this movie could be lighter in tone than Batman Begins.

Just go watch the BB trailer and then the TDK one. You'll see what I mean. I highly doubt this movie will be darker and more serious

 

[Beanjuice]

Since theres a "concern thread" I thought I'd make something somewhat similar but this is straight and to the point. What do you like and dislike about the movie so far?

Heres my dislikes:

Atmosphere

Less serious tone

Dialouge (from what I've heard)


Likes:

Batsuit

Batpod

Jokers look/personality

Dent being the backbone of the film

Cinematography

Partly IMAX

All the subplots

And theres a bunch more but just cant think of em all

this

vs this

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn20/Koolio96/Two20Face.jpg



come on now dude

 

[TheDarkVictory]

Just go watch the BB trailer and then the TDK one. You'll see what I mean. I highly doubt this movie will be darker and more serious

im going to have to disagree with you. every bit of info we've got so far has pointed to a much darker film. hell, i'm pretty sure somebody could find a direct quote of nolan expressing the fact that this will be darker. i'm not going to do it, mind you, but i'm sure somebody could. i know that a recent interview with hans zimmer and james newton howard had them talking about how this is a much more adult and grown up film than begins was, which, let's be honest, as wonderful as it is, it's pretty grade school in terms of themes, etc...

anyways, i like everything i've seen so far, save for some of the dialogue in the prologue, i.e., pretty much anything the goons said. it was way too goyer-esque for my taste. but oh well, you don't see a batman flick for brilliant dialogue. at least the joker's dialogue will be good.

 

[TheDarkVictory]

this

vs this

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn20/Koolio96/Two20Face.jpg



come on now dude

to be fair, i'm pretty sure he meant less serious than batman begins, not those abominations.

 

[TheDarkVictory]

also, personally, just from the trailers/prologue, i already like the atmosphere of TDK better than begins....begins seemed so....stage-like, at times, whereas TDK feels like a real world...probably due to all the on location shooting, whereas most of begins was shot on stage with only like...a few weeks in chicago, if i'm not mistaken. it's strange, as much as i love begins, and i do really, really love it (like, watch it every few weeks love it), there are so many flaws in it that i can already see nolan has fixed this time around.

 

[Beanjuice]

to be fair, i'm pretty sure he meant less serious than batman begins, not those abominations.

abomination you say?

 

[Conebone69]

im going to have to disagree with you. every bit of info we've got so far has pointed to a much darker film. hell, i'm pretty sure somebody could find a direct quote of nolan expressing the fact that this will be darker. i'm not going to do it, mind you, but i'm sure somebody could. i know that a recent interview with hans zimmer and james newton howard had them talking about how this is a much more adult and grown up film than begins was, which, let's be honest, as wonderful as it is, it's pretty grade school in terms of themes, etc...

anyways, i like everything i've seen so far, save for some of the dialogue in the prologue, i.e., pretty much anything the goons said. it was way too goyer-esque for my taste. but oh well, you don't see a batman flick for brilliant dialogue. at least the joker's dialogue will be good.

No, honestly I dont care what anyone says. To me, from everything I've seen to clips, trailers or TV spots. It DOESNT look darker than BB or anymore serious. Let me explain why. First off one of the reasons why its not as serious is because of the dialouge. I know I havent seen the movie yet but from what I've seen it doesnt have deep serious dialouge like BB. Just the whole tone and visual isnt that serious or dark. It deffinetly isnt as dark as BB visually.

 

[Frank Noir]

No, honestly I dont care what anyone says. To me, from everything I've seen to clips, trailers or TV spots. It DOESNT look darker than BB or anymore serious. Let me explain why. First off one of the reasons why its not as serious is because of the dialouge. I know I havent seen the movie yet but from what I've seen it doesnt have deep serious dialouge like BB. Just the whole tone and visual isnt that serious or dark. It deffinetly isnt as dark as BB visually.

That might be because the cinematography has changed. They went from a brown to a blue-ish palette.

Hans Zimmer said something interesting in a recent interview:

What else is different this time around?
Zimmer: This is what surprised me, and I think this needs a little clarifying. Everyone keeps saying that this film is darker than the last one. I always think that people think that means more violence. It's not that at all. There's much more of a precise intellectual thought that went into Christopher [Nolan] and his brother [Jonathan] while writing. The ideas are somehow more real and more grown-up. We're doing a summer blockbuster that deals with anarchy and old-fashioned values versus the modern man. That's a lot of fun to play with.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

So far I like -

Heaths performance...even if I end up NOT liking it when I see it, I already like the fact that he's so utterly out of the box with this and took a big risk.

The cinematography (which I also enjoyed very much in BB ... and hey, Oscar nod can't be wrong )

The idea that Batman is about to hit a moral crisis

The dark tone (I hope)

A better actress for Rachel

Scarecrow cameo!

Some insane stunts (big rig flip, etc)

Joker dressing up as a nurse!!! Has to be the coolest thing ever

The fake Batmen- I love the idea that there is a real "cause and effect" going on after Batman first took to the scene in BB

Lots of dramatic tension (such as Gordon vs Batman)

Maybe Harvey but it depends on how that story is acted and written...don't know enough yet. But I'm hoping this will be really good.

I'm sure there are other things I can't think of at the moment... oh yah and the whole viral campaign even though it's not in the film you have to admit is amazing

Don't like:

Rachel is still just a shill plot device and the ol' damsel in a superhero film

Jokers make-up and outfit. It's been forever and it's yet to grow on me... I don't like the dirty grunge joker look at all personally.

The clown masks. Same thing... I just don't like the look of them.

Shooting during the day WAY TOO MUCH for a Batman film.

The new Batsuit. *vomit* The Batpod - stupid, but at least tolerably stupid as opposed to the Batsuit. (IMHO of course)

Lack of a Batcave and the substitute of a stupid, lit-up, empty concrete garage.

Lack of Wayne manor and the substitute of an equally empty "modern" penthouse apartment.

Lack of BATS.

Alfreds continued lectures ... and wardrobe.

Too many jokes.

Too many jokes that aren't funny.


That's the breakdown for me!
Cool thread idea by the way.

 

[Conebone69]

Hmm, well I cant fully judge until the movies out

 

[redfirebird2008]

No, honestly I dont care what anyone says. To me, from everything I've seen to clips, trailers or TV spots. It DOESNT look darker than BB or anymore serious. Let me explain why. First off one of the reasons why its not as serious is because of the dialouge. I know I havent seen the movie yet but from what I've seen it doesnt have deep serious dialouge like BB. Just the whole tone and visual isnt that serious or dark. It deffinetly isnt as dark as BB visually.

A burning fire truck, a blown up hospital, total frickin' chaos in Gotham, possibly two tragedies involving Bruce's friends, assassination(s) of important public figures in the city, and on and on. It's going to be pretty damn dark I think. The reason Batman Begins' trailers are darker is because it was having to answer fans' concerns about the tone of the movie after BATMAN & ROBIN, a campy piece of crap that just about killed Batman as a film property. The fans already know the style that Nolan uses for the films, so now WB is trying to draw in a wider audience. I think the movie's tone is going to piss off a lot of people expecting a big campy blockbuster like Spider-Man because it is going to be a psychological movie with plenty of dark themes explored in a very serious manner.

 

[elizaabeth]

Same for me

Hmm, well I cant fully judge until the movies out

 

[Eggyman]

Don't do the rolleyes, Beth. They are evil

<-- those ones are more friendly

Hahahaha


I like pretty much everything I've seen so far.

What I don't like is that I have to wait a week longer than Americans to watch it

 

[Gianakin_]

Well, we'll probably see it in August here in Greece. Believe me, you're lucky.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Well, we'll probably see it in August here in Greece. Believe me, you're lucky.

Damn dude, that freakin' sucks for you! Sorry about that.

 

[Gianakin_]

Damn dude, that freakin' sucks for you! Sorry about that.

Its the end of the season in Greece by July, so the distributors just don't bring the movies. I've lost Bourne 3, Potter 5, Pirates 2 and 3, Superman Returns and countless others because of this. Sin City came 6 months later here!
The only thing that makes it bearable is that they haven't started dubbing the movies in Greek yet.

 

[Eggyman]

Its the end of the season in Greece by July, so the distributors just don't bring the movies. I've lost Bourne 3, Potter 5, Pirates 2 and 3, Superman Returns and countless others because of this. Sin City came 6 months later here!
The only thing that makes it bearable is that they haven't started dubbing the movies in Greek yet.

I am not having that! No one can do that to Gianakin. Well all be getting ready for 'Batman Continues' while you're still waiting for TDK

I am going to lodge a complaint. I am going to by you an air ticket with your money and let you see it early

 

[Gianakin_]

Lol, thanks, you really are the best guy. But, as long as I start staying away from these boards in July-August, I should be ok.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I think the movie's tone is going to piss off a lot of people expecting a big campy blockbuster like Spider-Man because it is going to be a psychological movie with plenty of dark themes explored in a very serious manner.

I doubt anybody expects The Dark Knight to be big campy blockbuster.

Even someone who only knows the name of the movie and nothing more.

And it's not going to be a 'psychological movie'. Don't expect Silence of the Lambs. Nolan has described it as a crime movie, similar to Heat, with huge action scenes. There will be humour, there will be spectacle, this is a summer blockbuster, not an introspective indie psycho-thriller.

 

[Keymaker]

At this point there can only be concerns because no one has actually seen the whole film and therefore no one can have real likes or dislikes t:

 

[redfirebird2008]

I doubt anybody expects The Dark Knight to be big campy blockbuster.

Even someone who only knows the name of the movie and nothing more.

And it's not going to be a 'psychological movie'. Don't expect Silence of the Lambs. Nolan has described it as a crime movie, similar to Heat, with huge action scenes. There will be humour, there will be spectacle, this is a summer blockbuster, not an introspective indie psycho-thriller.

Zimmer has described it as more psychological than anyone is expecting and he's seen the movie obviously. Nolan has said his favorite aspect of it is the battle of the minds between Batman and the Joker. Nolan's not really an action filmmaker, although I'm sure there will be plenty of it and I'm looking forward to the spectacle of this movie. There's some iconic shots that we've already seen in the trailers and I am sure there's even more in the movie itself. But Nolan, at his core, is more about storytelling than eye candy. In particular, he has always focused on psychology, even with Batman Begins (a summer blockbuster).

 

[doctorkenyon]

At this point there can only be concerns because no one has actually seen the whole film and therefore no one can have real likes or dislikes t:

We have to talk about something to pass the time here until the film comes out. Or we can sit in silence, that works too.

 

[isaias7]

Just go watch the BB trailer and then the TDK one. You'll see what I mean. I highly doubt this movie will be darker and more serious

Have you even watched the dark knight prologue?