Logan Logan spoiler thread discussion

[X-Maniac]

Because cable is from the future?

Yes, duh. But what would he be doing there, what would he be trying to achieve?

Given what we know of the story, the only option is to collect X-23

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because there's no-one else left alive to collect.

Anyway, it seems there is no post-credits scene anyway. Mangold probably put a stop to it, because it would ruin the impact and finality of his movie.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Mangold directed The Wolverine post credit scene

well if collidar is wrong about post credit scene maybe they are wrong about Kinberg doing supernovat:

but more seriously some of MCU films post credit scenes aren't done by director of films so it wouldn't be without predecent.

One way or the other on march 3 we will know for sure.

 

[csmithcamp]

OK few question, how many fight/action scenes are their? From trailers I can piece together five. How long are the fight scenes? And how long/good was the final fight with X-24? Does Logan lose and how does he lose?

 

[csmithcamp]

And if X-24 fight Logan does Logan AT LEAST hold his own for a little bit? And if you'd guess how long is the final fight and what is the best fight/action sequence in the entire movie? Am I missing any fights from below list and how would you rank them all:
1. Opening Fight Scene
2. First fight with Pierce and Reavers in desert
3. Fight / Action scene in Las Vegas, and how was Las Vegas action?
4. Fight in the woods
5. Final Logan VS. X-24 fight scene

 

[LoganPool]

OK few question, how many fight/action scenes are their? From trailers I can piece together five. How long are the fight scenes? And how long/good was the final fight with X-24? Does Logan lose and how does he lose?

I haven't seen the movie but I can answer some questions for you based on what I've heard.

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I don't know how many, or how long they are, but I've heard from multiple sources that the actions scenes are aplenty. And the "down time" we get is necessary and handled very well.

Also, supposedly, X-24 only has about 15 minutes of screen time. And yes, technically, Logan loses the fight.

 

[MDS248]

OK few question, how many fight/action scenes are their? From trailers I can piece together five. How long are the fight scenes? And how long/good was the final fight with X-24? Does Logan lose and how does he lose?

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From what I've heard, Logan doesn't 'lose'. He does enough to save Laura which is the entire reason he's fighting X-24. Apparently by the end of the film, his healing abilities are completely diminished and he's not able to heal the wounds he's suffered. He gets thrown into a tree and gets fatally impaled by the spikes but wounds X-24 enough for Laura to shoot him with an adamantium bullet and kill him. Logan says "So this is how it feels like" just before dying in her arms. After Laura burys him, she walks over to his grave and moves the cross to resemble an X. This is what I've been told.

 

[Mutant 77]

I'm glad they reprised the "Adamantium bullet". Even if Origins has been deleted by time travel, it's a nice throwback in terms of universe cohesion.

 

[MDS248]

I'm glad they reprised the "Adamantium bullet". Even if Origins has been deleted by time travel, it's a nice throwback in terms of universe cohesion.

Personally I think it's a stupid idea. Logan fights Lady Deathstrike who has Adamantium Claws and was able to heal, he fights the Silver Samurai and was able to heal and he even gets shot by a Adamantium bullet and survives in Origins. There's even a line in Origins saying that the bullet won't kill him, but his memories won't grow back. I believe drowning is one of the few ways Wolverine can be killed, but he has to stay submerged?

What does the material of a bullet matter when you're able to heal any wounds?

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Technically, the bullet should have bounced off X-24's skull and never entered his brain. If you read the comics, Adamantium-On-Adamantium has no effect. If it did, when he fought Lady Deathstrike or Silver Samurari(Apart from when he heated his Adamantium sword up) they would have been chopping off each others claws whenever they came to blows.

 

[LoganPool]

Personally I think it's a stupid idea. Logan fights Lady Deathstrike who has Adamantium Claws and was able to heal, he fights the Silver Samurai and was able to heal and he even gets shot by a Adamantium bullet and survives in Origins. There's even a line in Origins saying that the bullet won't kill him, but his memories won't grow back. I believe drowning is one of the few ways Wolverine can be killed, but he has to stay submerged?

What does the material of a bullet matter when you're able to heal any wounds?

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Technically, the bullet should have bounced off X-24's skull and never entered his brain. If you read the comics, Adamantium-On-Adamantium has no effect. If it did, when he fought Lady Deathstrike or Silver Samurari(Apart from when he heated his Adamantium sword up) they would have been chopping off each others claws whenever they came to blows.

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I don't think X-24s skeleton is laced with adamantium. Just the claws. Similar to X-23. But you're right in the fact that it wouldn't kill him.

 

[BoredGuy]

So maybe[BLACKOUT] X-24 just gets a mind wipe[/BLACKOUT]
in-road for Logan to return
lol

 

[Ivan Drago]

So maybe X-24 just gets a mind wipe
in-road for Logan to return
lol

[BLACKOUT]I believe Laura kills X-24.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[BoredGuy]

I knoww, that's what I hear
but this is a cbm, if I don't see an [BLACKOUT]indisputably dead body[/BLACKOUT] then there's always a way

 

[Herolee10]

Man, it just still sucks to think that..

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In the long run, both Wolverine and Professor X failed their mission, particularly the latter, which was to protect mutants and to help them unite with Humans.

To think that the franchise started with Professor X helping mutants to now end with most of them being dead because of him is depressing.

 

[MDS248]

Man, it just still sucks to think that..

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In the long run, both Wolverine and Professor X failed their mission, particularly the latter, which was to protect mutants and to help them unite with Humans.

To think that the franchise started with Professor X helping mutants to now end with most of them being dead because of him is depressing.

Hmmmm.... I disagree. Look at what Logan and Charles did in DOFP. They saved pretty much all Mutants from Sentinials with some help from a few others granted. The good they've done for mutants far outweighs the bad in my opinion.

Also...

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It's not mentioned that Charles kills all the Mutants. It's never actually confirmed

 

[LoganPool]

Also...

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It's not mentioned that Charles kills all the Mutants. It's never actually confirmed

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It's very strongly suggested. Its mentions an incident in the northeast that wipes out most of the mutant population.

 

[Mutant 77]

Mutant population

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of North America.

Just that. I guess?

 

[Herolee10]

Hmmmm.... I disagree. Look at what Logan and Charles did in DOFP. They saved pretty much all Mutants from Sentinials with some help from a few others granted. The good they've done for mutants far outweighs the bad in my opinion.

Also...

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It's not mentioned that Charles kills all the Mutants. It's never actually confirmed

Yeah and...

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despite ALL of that effort put into saving the world during the events of "DOFP", the X-Men still ended up all dying in the end in the new timeline as well...within a matter of a few years after it.

The only ones that really benefited from all of this were the Humans because at least they're still living their lives normally.

This film pretty much discredits most of the efforts that was DOFP.

 

[Mutant 77]

I don't remember very well, so please enlight me.

In "Days of Future Past", did the Sentinels manage to destroy the whole world and kill humans as well?

If this is the case, at least we know that the events of DOFP saved the human race.

 

[Herolee10]

I don't remember very well, so please enlight me.

In "Days of Future Past", did the Sentinels manage to destroy the whole world and kill humans as well?

If this is the case, at least we know that the events of DOFP saved the human race.

From what I remember, Logan phrased it that only the worst of mankind were left in charge of the planet during the original timeline.

Now, any human that had aided the mutants or were discovered to have genes that would eventually produce mutant offspring, they were either locked up or killed.

 

[Mutant 77]

From what I remember, Logan phrased it that only the worst of mankind were left in charge of the planet during the original timeline.

Now, any human that had aided the mutants or were discovered to have genes that would eventually produce mutant offspring, they were either locked up or killed.

So I would dare to say that the Sentinels decimated both the races and ruined the planet/destroyed the cities. Right?

 

[LoganPool]

So I would dare to say that the Sentinels decimated both the races and ruined the planet/destroyed the cities. Right?

Having just watched DOFP, yes.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Yeah and...

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despite ALL of that effort put into saving the world during the events of "DOFP", the X-Men still ended up all dying in the end in the new timeline as well...within a matter of a few years after it.

The only ones that really benefited from all of this were the Humans because at least they're still living their lives normally.

This film pretty much discredits most of the efforts that was DOFP.

If the x-men are dead whereas they are old its OK. We are in the future.

 

[Mutant 77]

If the x-men are dead whereas they are old its OK. We are in the future.

Cyclops is born in 1965.
Jean Grey is born in 1965.
Beast was even older than them.

I would say that they were "old" when the Westchester Incident happened (2024), despite cinematic mutants age far better and slightly slower than humans.

 

[MDS248]

I'm seeing it tonight. Genuinely cannot wait.

 

[ss3walkman]

Yeah and...

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despite ALL of that effort put into saving the world during the events of "DOFP", the X-Men still ended up all dying in the end in the new timeline as well...within a matter of a few years after it.

The only ones that really benefited from all of this were the Humans because at least they're still living their lives normally.

This film pretty much discredits most of the efforts that was DOFP.

It seems to go back to what Beast said about the time ripple and that the future already being set. It's like that trades one tragedy for another. May have happened differently, but the X-MEN still die and mutants are still hunted down.