Looper

[Master Chief]

Why would he try to kill himself?

Plot spoilery? If you don't wanna know anything don't read:

Spoiler

When loopers retire, their loop is closed. Their future selves are sent back in time and killed by their own hand, then they get to live out whatever is left of their life with the money they made from all their previous kills.

 

[venus_ice]

And that is why you see those gold bars in the teaser. JGL is a hoarder

 

[bapi]

I think this is gonna be this year's mindfu*k Drive! Love it!

 

[Marvin]

Hopefully unlike drive, this love for this one won't be contrived. At the very least the lead actor will give a tangible performance.

The lighting and palate in this this is that of the matrix, but with less saturation.

 

[The Morningstar]

Hopefully unlike drive, this love for this one won't be contrived. At the very least the lead actor will give a tangible performance.

Maybe Gosling's performance was too subtle and understated for you? Never heard such nonsense in my life. His performance tells the story of a man who sacrifices his humanity for the greater good, in the case of Drive, love. He does this with about a page of dialogue. Amazing performance.

 

[Marvin]

Maybe Gosling's performance was too subtle and understated for you? Never heard such nonsense in my life. His performance tells the story of a man who sacrifices his humanity for the greater good, in the case of Drive, love. He does this with about a page of dialogue. Amazing performance.

I love how it always jumps to ad hominem around here.

 

[venus_ice]

I love saying JGL is a good version of Ryan Gosling. People get instantly furious

 

[Rowsdower!]

I love how it always jumps to ad hominem around here.

Hey, you fired the first shot when you implied that people only like Drive because of the critical acclaim or the the film's cult status, rather than the film itself. People are perfectly capable of judging a film by its own merits, regardless what perceptions they might have had before watching it (positive or negative).

Anyway, I don't think Looper will be this year's Drive, mainly just because the films appear to be so aesthetically different that the comparison almost feels entirely out of left field. Regardless of that though, this does really look cool.

 

[Marvin]

actually I did nothing of the sort.

 

[Rowsdower!]

You said:

Hopefully unlike drive, this love for this one won't be contrived.

For the love of a movie to be "contrived" that means that the fans of the film liked it for some artificial reason, as if they had their minds made up before they even watched it, rather than for the film itself.

 

[Marvin]

Last I checked, contrive is synonymous with unnatural or non organic. Never once did I say anyone had their minds made up for them. I was with you, till you started with the assertion.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Contrived is defined as: obviously planned, artificial, or lacking in spontaneity; forced; unnatural.

Not sure how that wasn't meant as a slight to Drive fans.

 

[Marvin]

I suppose it could be seen that way. However a statement like Transformer fans are stupid and like a stupid movie, makes no apologies about it's intent.

To say the general reception of a film is contrived can mean many things. Zeitgeist for instance. If someone is personally offended by such a remark than all the power to them. What ever reasons you like a film shouldn't have anything to do with why the masses do. Sometimes it may but that's out of your hands. If I like Obama, that doesn't mean I have to feel slighted by the idea that a lot of his momentum/early reception came from a movement. If I like him, I like him.

I happen to think the film was good but overrated. I may have been one of the few people in my theater that didn't snicker or shout out when characters took unnaturally long pauses instead of offering simple responses time and again. The elevator scene got roars of laughter for it's out of nowhere tonal extremity but again I found much more compelling when it was saying something rather then when it literally wasn't. The subtlety had fans reaching for explanations such as the driver was mentally challenged and such things. I think that's where it failed the most. If it actually made a stance, it wouldn't have divided the audience in the way that it seemingly has. But that's me.

I think if people talk of JGL performance as being amazing in this, it will be because he gives the audience a lot to digest, from channeling Willis, to being a killer vs being hunted and arching and so fourth. He won't rely of the plot to tell his "story of redemption" or whatever for him.

I do think JGL and Gosling represent the next gen though. Infact, every now and then I imagine them swapping roles. Gosling in inception and Levitt in drive. Gosling in 500days and Levitt in notebook. It actually works.

 

[Doctor Jones]

This looks awesome. Johnson and Levitt reuniting makes this even better.

 

[BritishChap007]

Plot spoilery? If you don't wanna know anything don't read:

Spoiler

When loopers retire, their loop is closed. Their future selves are sent back in time and killed by their own hand, then they get to live out whatever is left of their life with the money they made from all their previous kills.

Thank you. Makes sense.

 

[Master Chief]

I love saying JGL is a good version of Ryan Gosling. People get instantly furious

To me JGL will always be that kid from 3rd rock from the sun.

Thank you. Makes sense.

Don't mention it. :]

 

[Rowsdower!]

I suppose it could be seen that way. However a statement like Transformer fans are stupid and like a stupid movie, makes no apologies about it's intent.

To say the general reception of a film is contrived can mean many things. Zeitgeist for instance. If someone is personally offended by such a remark than all the power to them. What ever reasons you like a film shouldn't have anything to do with why the masses do. Sometimes it may but that's out of your hands. If I like Obama, that doesn't mean I have to feel slighted by the idea that a lot of his momentum/early reception came from a movement. If I like him, I like him.

I happen to think the film was good but overrated. I may have been one of the few people in my theater that didn't snicker or shout out when characters took unnaturally long pauses instead of offering simple responses time and again. The elevator scene got roars of laughter for it's out of nowhere tonal extremity but again I found much more compelling when it was saying something rather then when it literally wasn't. The subtlety had fans reaching for explanations such as the driver was mentally challenged and such things. I think that's where it failed the most. If it actually made a stance, it wouldn't have divided the audience in the way that it seemingly has. But that's me.

I think if people talk of JGL performance as being amazing in this, it will be because he gives the audience a lot to digest, from channeling Willis, to being a killer vs being hunted and arching and so fourth. He won't rely of the plot to tell his "story of redemption" or whatever for him.

I do think JGL and Gosling represent the next gen though. Infact, every now and then I imagine them swapping roles. Gosling in inception and Levitt in drive. Gosling in 500days and Levitt in notebook. It actually works.

I get what you're saying there. Drive is a polarizing movie for most people. I was lucky enough to see it in a theater that didn't contain a bunch of people snickering at the awkward moments, but I can see why some people might react that way to it. As for the Zeitgeist thing... I suppose some of the movie's popularity could be derived from that, I don't know. I personally wouldn't say that the movie was perfect but for some reason as soon as I'm done watching it, I want to watch it again or at least listen to the haunting soundtrack while driving around late at night looking for a hot girl who resembles Carrie Mulligan, lol.

Anyway, I agree that JGL and Gosling are two of the best actors in their age bracket and represent the next gen, or at least I hope they do. As determined as Hollywood seems to be to force the Taylor Kitches and Channing Tatums of the world upon us, I'm glad that at least a few actors out there who are really impressive and dedicated to the craft are getting good work.

 

[Rowsdower!]

To me JGL will always be that kid from 3rd rock from the sun.

JGL should have been cast in Prometheus so he could have had a scene with the Big Giant Head.

 

[Marvin]

That's true, though I'm of the mind that what we perceive as the best actors are usually the ones that try to avoid films that end up bombing and more to the point, almost never stray outside their range without a strong director/script.

Kitsch does a great job on FNL but it's in his range. Some of this other stuff(especially gambit) is beyond him to do with integrity. The thing I respect about Tatum is that he doesn't hide behind his range. I think he played a roman guard in one film? Tough sell but he went for it. When an Orlando bloom tries their hand at an inner city hip hop dancer, and fails, then we'll see just were Tatum measure's up. That being said, Tatum's almost never believable. I mean I can only imagine Tatum in Looper.

 

[Rowsdower!]

LOL, yeah, Tatum can star in as many movies as he wants too, just as long as their ones I have no interest in. Maybe 21 Jump Street was as funny as the critics said it was, but regardless... I'm glad Tatum was cast in that instead of something that sounds really awesome like Looper or Prometheus.

Haha, now I'm imagining Tatum trying to channel Bruce Willis.

 

[Marvin]

Tatum needs a solid urban movie imo.

JGL to me looks to be one of those range type actors the like of a young Depp and a Daniel Day. I hope his next role is as different from this as this is from 500 days. He's one of the few that seems to pull it off well. I find Nolan has a habit using his actors the exact same way with each movie no?

 

[Master Chief]

I thought Tatum was great in A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints. He doesn't have that big of a role though hahah.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Love JGL's voice in this. He is doing a great voiceover.

 

[The Morningstar]

I love how it always jumps to ad hominem around here.

You said his performance wasn't "tangible". That to me says someone found it too subtle and understated, so much so that it was like he wasn't there? I disagree. It's nice when actors are allowed to act without dialogue. You don't need dialogue to characterise someone, just a great, subtle performance and a well written character whose action speak louder than words.

And your nonsense about Drive having a "contrived" fanbase is absurd. Implying that it's fans are hipsters or something?

It's a great movie, maybe that's why it has a fanbase?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]