Justice League Lounge of Justice - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 45

[Consona]

 

[Polux]

I was gonna watch TLJ tomorrow, but instead I'm gonna have beers with friends....oh well...

And welcome back BN!

 

[Consona]

Star Wars: Episode IX - Forcepoint









Got the joke?

 

[Polux]

Sooo...JL must be out in HD somewhere by now...right...??

 

[obredaan]

I'm finding a weird case of amusement on what's happening with TLJ. Not in a slight to Star Wars as a franchise( I'm not into Star Wars) or their fans kind of way but for the fact that I work with two buddies who are Star Wars FREAKS and one of them I'd always argue BvS with (the other co-worker loved BvS) and DC in general. He can't stand the fact that he fell into the trap of being a TLJ apologist and it's ironic that every one of his excuses is a copy and paste job from how a DC fans feel and why this, that, this and that from the fanbase and how fans got to just appreciate a different direction and they don't understand it and blah blah blah. He literally came full circle and fell right into his own trap by defending TLJ, as I defend BvS and MoS and I just sat there with a smirk letting him vent. He told me to shutup and left lmao.

Just a weird sense of amusement for me.

I find it amusing that 2 separate films are being accused of the same issues and yet the fanbases disagree on both films. Both fan bases seem to share the same complaints and want to point and laugh at each other for some odd reason.

 

[FatRobin]

Man there's nothing to talk about in the DCEU threads except JL's box office and how it failed. I've never seen such a drought not only of news but also of hype

I keep lurking in the Batman solo movie sub-forum because people are actually discussing something not boring there. I want to do the same with Aquaman's but there's no one talking.

 

[_Superman_]

Sooo...JL must be out in HD somewhere by now...right...??

You would think but there isn't. I have been looking all over.

 

[Consona]

Who would have thought his was so close to what has happened...

 

[Polux]

You would think but there isn't. I have been looking all over.

Hmmm...give it a couple more days, I suppose...

 

[Legendver2]

54% now. Didn't think it was possible to go down even more after the slight uptick to 57%. But you know, bots

 

[Gee]

I'm just hoping it's not worse than Pan...:/

Not looking too good now.

 

[Consona]

"Zack Snyder graciously taking a selfie with an elderly fan."

https://***********/ZSDoingThings/status/943531826261377024

 

[harlequinade]

I like the graphic I made for my review better than the movie

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Some excerpts:

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No wonder Hamill is throwing the most passive aggressive shade since Leto during Suicide Squad promo tour. He is utterly wasted here. At least his death scene is dignified and I imagine Hamill was so good in it because he knew that this is finally over. But the scene is still lessened by the fact it's not earned at all. Han Solo's death didn't feel particularly earned last time either but this is so much worse. Johnson doesn't know what the hell he wants to with the character of Luke throughout the movie. On one hand we have scenes suggesting showing Luke as shell of himself Logan-style. Then after extremely brief moment he is back in his hero-mode, brushing off his shoulder like a badass pimp. The whole characterization feels underwritten and disjointed. Say what you want about someone like Zack Snyder and his deconstruction of Superman - at least his films aren't so jarring when it comes to changes in tone.

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Same disjointed feeling applies to all the characters here. Whatever character development they manage to accomplish, and it's not much if any, is all thrown away as practically every single scene has some ridiculous comedic moment thrown in. However no one gets out of this more damaged than Rey. In The Force Awakens Rey was this incredible heroine - before we had Wonder Woman it was Rey who depicted that amazing mixture of humanity, naivete and bravery. Before Diana crossed No Man's Land we saw Rey grab that lightsaber and ignite it in what was probably the most rousing moment in cinema in 2015. And what happens here? Rey spends majority of movie being used as a pawn to build up male characters - ignite the spark in Luke to return and for Kylo to open himself up to another person. Any development with Rey centers around her desire to know who her parents are. Johnson takes us through silly, cliche, Black Swan-rip off scenes (it's unforgivable how dull this film is when it comes to visuals) and serves up the answers that really don't change anything when it comes to her.

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It's the script that is the worst thing here. There are scenes here that are so dumb I was amazed. Not that The Force Awakens where the plot is based on "Luke is like bye! BUT somehow there is a map to where he is and all that is missing is him recording 'do you want to play a game?' message like Jigsaw" had some great writing but my God....there is a scene where Leia is standing there with a gate opened for some reason and only tells others to close it as the enemy is approaching. Also Leia straight up going all Mary Poppins is probably the most cringe worthy scene in 2017 and let's remember that this is the year that included Ansel Elgort walking around the street and lip-syncing and Fassbender in entirety of The Snowman and commanding a newborn xenomorph in Alien: Covenant.

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Still, Driver earns my praise for doing so much with such script. Him and Ridley have decent chemistry and after what felt like eternity we are finally treated to impressive scene where they both fight the guards. But one cannot help but wonder how much better that whole story would be if that was the turning point for Rey and Ben would return to the light right there. It would at least justify this whole movie's existence and make me curious for the next episode. Instead at the end we are exactly where we began. Is Disney too afraid to make the female protagonist turn to the dark side? Because she spent most of this film rooting for a murderer of innocent people, including someone who was like a dad to her (for like a week, but still) and wanting to save him so I'd like to inform the Mouse....she ain't all that great, dude.

My girly thinking:

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Dern has fantastic on-screen chemistry with Oscar Isaac, they actually have more chemistry together than any other couple in this film. Combined. I was even thinking at one point that they may be going somewhere with this - you know, since I was desperate for some actual romance in the movie since watching Rose and Finn was more uncomfortable than watching incest scenes on HBO shows - but then she blew herself up pointlessly. So maybe it's gonna be Poe and Rey? And while I loved the brief scene where they meet in the end, in The Force Awakens near the end of the film they return on the same ship. What, they didn't talk the entire flight there? Johnson creates plot holes literally everywhere in this movie.

 

[Black Narcissus]

That's usually how it works when you don't get laid at all.

Lawd.

Actually, do you know how scary it is when the lady you was messing with tells you to get tested for stds? I must have asked every known God for a miracle and made baseless promises. lol

 

[Black Narcissus]

The Last Jedi

One of the most satisfying theaters moments I have ever experienced. Nothing is sweeter than seeing this with a hardcore Star Wars fanboy (who was seeing this for his third time) hate the film even more with each viewing. lol

I do not hate SW, but I don't care for it. Never did. The guy who did Looper getting his hands on it made me curious. Some cool moments and some baffling moments even for a non fan like me. lol

Got milk and Mary Poppins references? I can see my friend grind his teeth. This felt in a weird way like a big F U to JJ Abrams. You know all the things you set up in the first one? Yeah, I'm gonna undo a lot of that. Pimp move, Rian. Still big Meh for me.

 

[Consona]

I like the graphic I made for my review better than the movie

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You're so talented, harle.

The Last Jedi

One of the most satisfying theaters moments I have ever experienced.

I'd rather get Chlamydia, HIV, Gonorrhea and Syphilis than watch TLJ again.

 

[Black Narcissus]

You're so talented, harle.

I'd rather get Chlamydia, HIV, Gonorrhea and Syphilis than watch TLJ again.

I meant satisfying hearing a hardcore SW fan hate and nitpick almost everything through out the film. It was like paying for an extra one man comedy show.

 

[Consona]

I meant satisfying hearing a hardcore SW fan hate and nitpick almost everything through out the film. It was like paying for an extra one man comedy show.

the only redeeming factor I can find here is... your humor is so damn funny I'm not even mad.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Still a lovely surprised by how much I liked Thor3.

Taika Waititi bless us with Akira!

 

[Consona]

Still a lovely surprised by how much I liked Thor3.

Taika Waititi bless us with Akira!

Ok, now you've ruined it again.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Smokes clove cigarette, like old lovers do*

What if Thor kinda dies in Infinity War, but he ain't dead but is stuck in a cocoon like state, and he ends up transforming into a really hot beautiful woman. Thus, we get Lady Thor. And then you send Michael Biehn back...

 

[StarLord]

Still a lovely surprised by how much I liked Thor3.

Taika Waititi bless us with Akira!

 

[Consona]

Smokes clove cigarette, like old lovers do*

What if Thor kinda dies in Infinity War, but he ain't dead but is stuck in a cocoon like state, and he ends up transforming into a really hot beautiful woman. Thus, we get Lady Thor. And then you send Michael Biehn back...

 

[Black Narcissus]

I still have not seen the new Denzel film, but did read the script and it sucked. Disappointed coming from the guy who wrote and directed Nightcrawler.

Same thing with that new Ava Duvernay movie. Read a really early draft and it sucked. You know your film sucks when the Tomorrowland script was better.

 

[FunkMiller]

Still a lovely surprised by how much I liked Thor3.

Taika Waititi bless us with Akira!

Oh ****, that’s a great call. He’d slay it.