Justice League Lounge of Justice - Part 88

[Greenlite]

People literally got fired over BvS, I don't think successes get people fired

Tsujihara got the bonuses and the women, and still got fired

 

[KalvinEllis]

Random film thoughts.

Scorpion King movie and his appearance in the second mummy contradict that character traits, like goddamn. Ruthless and evil in Returns, but a man of the people in the solo. Also, that asian gal was all kinds of hnngh.

Black Adam will probably be similar. In Shazam we were told he was the former evil champion who released the plagues, while in BA he will probably by a noble savior who only turns bad because of what happens during the end sequence.

Kelly Hu is a former Miss Hawaii, bruh, she's always been hnngh.

 

[kguillou]

Am I the only person here that had to fight falling asleep during homecoming?

People wanted a comedic Spiderman and thats exactly what they gave us. A spiderman teen comedy.

 

[STARMAN]

When it came to the comics, I always preferred Spider-Man during the college years. It was the perfect balance of Peter dealing with youthful and mature issues.

 

[KalvinEllis]

what happened to consona?

Yeah, been a while since he's posted here. I remember he mentioned having health problems in the past, so I hope it's nothing serious.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I hope Holland starts becoming the more confident wisecracker now that he's a fully established character in the MCU, my man deserves all the best quips now that Robert "Down Here, Junior" bit the dust

Expecting a lot of that in the inevitable next avenger or MCU crossover event film

 

[StarLord]

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I ain't even mad, thats pretty cool

now go work on superman, JJ

 

[_Superman_]

I never thought I would say this but the first issue of Superman: Year One was actually pretty good.

 

[Aurakles]

I never thought I would say this but the first issue of Superman: Year One was actually pretty good.

I was a bit disappointed.
It seemed pretty drawn out and slow to me. Millers stories sometimes have major flaws, but pacing usually aint one of them. I think this issue dragged on a bit.

 

[_Superman_]

I was a bit disappointed.
It seemed pretty drawn out and slow to me. Millers stories sometimes have major flaws, but pacing usually aint one of them. I think this issue dragged on a bit.

See normally I would agree with you but given the way how Miller has written Superman every time he has had a chance I was surprised that I actually liked the first issue. Now I hope it doesn't go downhill from here but the first issue was alright.

 

[Polux]

So I finally got my hands on the first volume of Grant Morrison & Howard Porter's JLA; just finished the Hyperclan story.

It's pretty cool and I like the writing (it's a lot more nuanced that I remember from 90s comics, although I might be wrong), but it took me a bit to get into the art, and I'm still divided by it. It definitely has its own mark, but it also seems a little "amateurish" for lack of a better word (and which seems ludicrous, when you actually see the complexity of the composition, the richness of the details and the dramatic power of the shadowing), maybe I'm just a little taken off by how big Porter makes female eyes, or how he draws Superman's face.... the art certainly strikes me as "very 90s", if that makes any sense. Still, conflicted is the word, cause I think I dislike it as much as I like it.

I know nostalgia dictates that everything that came before is the best and unbeatable, but I honestly believe that the best (or at least my favorite) CB artists and writers, are the ones working nowadays.

 

[heatvision38]

So I finally got my hands on the first volume of Grant Morrison & Howard Porter's JLA; just finished the Hyperclan story.

It's pretty cool and I like the writing (it's a lot more nuanced that I remember from 90s comics, although I might be wrong), but it took me a bit to get into the art, and I'm still divided by it. It definitely has its own mark, but it also seems a little "amateurish" for lack of a better word (and which seems ludicrous, when you actually see the complexity of the composition, the richness of the details and the dramatic power of the shadowing), maybe I'm just a little taken off by how big Porter makes female eyes, or how he draws Superman's face.... the art certainly strikes me as "very 90s", if that makes any sense. Still, conflicted is the word, cause I think I dislike it as much as I like it.

I know nostalgia dictates that everything that came before is the best and unbeatable, but I honestly believe that the best (or at least my favorite) CB artists and writers, are the ones working nowadays.

It was Morrison's JLA run that got me back into comics, that and the JL animated series. During lunch breaks, I would go to the Barnes & Noble across the street and in the comics section, they had the Morrison JLA trades. What I loved about them is how he tried to make sure to give each character moments that elevate them, as well as, like you said, the trademark Morrison nuances (though I agree with you on the art). I liked the books on one level, but after coming back to them, I could see a deeper level that made me appreciate them so much more.

Right now, I feel like I'm in a Morrison whirlwind. I had just finished reading Multiversity two weeks ago, then followed that up the next day with Doomsday Clock #10 which plays on Morrison's concepts, while at the same time, Scott Snyder is also playing with Morrison's story themes as well as specific story and character beats via the Dark Metal and his current JL run. So this whole universe/concept of a living story, multiverses, monitors, anti monitors, etc, etc, it's really fascinating. It makes the DC universe feel so much bigger, more fluid, yet established at the same time, if that makes sense.

You could, in effect, read all of Morrison's stuff (which I'm working on doing by creating lists on the dcu streaming site), and see that it all is really in the same universe, sometimes with just a few mental manipulations to make it work: his JLA run, Final Crisis, Multiversity, DC One Million, All Star Superman. Then add that to some of the other works that pick up on his themes like Dark Metal, the current JL run of Snyder's, Doomsday Clock, Convergence (which is what I'm currently reading-- including all the tie-ins, in order to get the whole experience, thanks again to dcu online), Multiplicity, and some other stuff that creates this world where it all fits together.

I find it so fascinating.

 

[RomanticPenguin]

 

[MbJ]

Wow. The new costume for Abrams' Superman is a pretty radical departure, but I approve.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I'd like to see them CGI that out of all existence, not Cavill's face next time.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Justice League vs Fatal Five

Spoiler

I saw a video on the internet once, someone made fun of superheroes for being heroes for no reason other than "I has teh POWAH" and a villain is a villain for similar reasoning, no proper motivation and build up to why we should care.

And let me tell you, that complain applies to the villains of this mess of a film.
Who are the Fatal Five? Where are they from? What made them who they are?
The movie never bothered to establish any of this, all we know that three of them were on a quest to free the girlfriend of the one who can't jerk-off with his fatal hand, there is not much else about any of them or why they want to save only one of the other two team-mates that are not there from the start. The last member of this team of villains is just an afterthought.

The Empress was locked away in the 21st century, but she was captured after she lost her magical eye in the 31st century by losing in quite the distance underground. And once she's unsealed she wants to destroy the sun Sol-3 using her magic eye that for some unknown reason is with her in this century instead of being trapped far away a long long time from now.

What's her deal exactly?

And Superman is treated here as badly as he was in season 1 of Justice League the animated series, he's mostly nerfed down and used for two scenes early on, then he became more of an afterthought than a character of much importance.

The movie had potential to be good, but it's average. The more maligned Batman and Harley Quinn movie from two years ago is a better movie, I watched it today to see what is wrong with it, and it's fairly good with some issues bogging it down.

I did enjoy the new animated Justice League movie, but I wish it was better.
Green Lanterns are poorly treated in animation when it comes to constructs, they're not creative and big enough.

 

[Greenlite]

Pretty sure most of the ads popping out has to do with one's click behaviour online...

=P

 

[MbJ]

Have they announced when this series is supposed to drop?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

A Black Catwoman? That's new.

 

[StarLord]

Have they announced when this series is supposed to drop?

October.

 

[Aurakles]

So I finally got my hands on the first volume of Grant Morrison & Howard Porter's JLA; just finished the Hyperclan story.

It's pretty cool and I like the writing (it's a lot more nuanced that I remember from 90s comics, although I might be wrong), but it took me a bit to get into the art, and I'm still divided by it. It definitely has its own mark, but it also seems a little "amateurish" for lack of a better word (and which seems ludicrous, when you actually see the complexity of the composition, the richness of the details and the dramatic power of the shadowing), maybe I'm just a little taken off by how big Porter makes female eyes, or how he draws Superman's face.... the art certainly strikes me as "very 90s", if that makes any sense. Still, conflicted is the word, cause I think I dislike it as much as I like it.

I know nostalgia dictates that everything that came before is the best and unbeatable, but I honestly believe that the best (or at least my favorite) CB artists and writers, are the ones working nowadays.

Borrowing Morrisons JLA from the library was my first introduction to the Flash, Aquaman, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter. I've been a massive fan of his work ever since.
(I was probably too young to be reading it, but they just threw all the comics in the kids section.)
I kinda like Porters art, yeah it's a bit cartoony, and it's not as finessed as a lot of artists, but I enjoy the way he always had people in motion. I totally get what you mean by it being quite 90's.

 

[Gee]

A Black Catwoman? That's new.

No way a Black Catwoman will be popular...

 

[KalvinEllis]

Catwoman is actually the one member of the Batfamily I expect to see more consistently raceswapped in outside media adaptations. She's black in the new DC Super Hero Girls cartoon too. I don't expect to see that with Alfred or the Robins, perhaps with Gordon or Barbara like in The Lego Batman Movie, Harvey Dent is also a possibility if they want to pay tribute to Billy Dee, but Catwoman has been changed more often compared to the rest. She was even half-Cuban in the comics at one point. Still hoping Reeves casts Eiza in role.

 

[Black Narcissus]

IF the plan is to later have HQ and her gals do a GCS type team up or versus, would they also cast their own Catwoman or use Reeves' casting choice?

Someone get Andy King on the phone!