Lounge of Justice - Part 90

[Web-Head]

I think Ezra more or less "won out" and got a more serious tone with Muschetti attached to direct, but they're not using the Morrison/Miller script.

 

[Micromind]

I think Ezra more or less "won out" and got a more serious tone with Muschetti attached to direct, but they're not using the Morrison/Miller script.

Christina Hodson (writer of Bumblebee and BoP) is currently writing the Flash script. Andy Muschetti is also a writer, I suppose he will be contributing to script as well.

 

[heatvision38]

Gotcha. Cool.

 

[Web-Head]

Christina Hodson (writer of Bumblebee and BoP) is currently writing the Flash script. Andy Muschetti is also a writer, I suppose he will add be contributing to script as well.

That's right. I remember now that you say that, thanks.

 

[Greenlite]

Ya Ezra won but WB said geez your script attempt sucks Ezra let us get hot property Christina and Andy for ya, so hopefully it’s the “gift” he is trying to give us

 

[Greenlite]

So, I'm confused, what is the plan for this Flash movie now? I know it was reported that Ezra was going to hand in an alt draft (with Grant Morrison) or he's out, but they didn't take his draft, but he's still in? And he wanted to work the script because he didn't want to it to be too comical (which is awesome that he gets that, imo). So, where are we now? Is it still gonna be the more comical script but with Ezra still attached, or does he have more influence?

Btw, the more of the original DCEU JLers that they are doing solo movies for (Gal, Mamoa, Ezra), the better because it's harder to pretend that the past didn't exist, which means they still will keep it in the same world (even if they change tone somewhat), which also means it's most of the same crew if they want to do a JL movie. And I think it makes it harder to reboot if you have 3 of the original 6, but a completely different Superman AND Batman. That would be jarring to me.

It's one thing to say you already had a WW movie which was very successful and Aquaman already being made, so you will continue with those, but the Flash is being done well after the fact. I like that.

So if the WB suit who wants a reboot, gets 4 new cast out of 6, he will be called Reboot Master?

And Jett’s Reboot Master’s Black Manta

 

[Micromind]

Ya Ezra won but WB said geez your script attempt sucks Ezra let us get hot property Christina and Andy for ya, so hopefully it’s the “gift” he is trying to give us

Maybe Morrison and Ezra's ideas were too SciFi and too far out for them, so they decided to get some writers who can write stories that general audience will understand.

 

[Greenlite]

Maybe Morrison and Ezra's ideas were too SciFi and too far out for them, so they decided to get some writers who can write stories that general audience will understand.

Ya maybe WB will give them a personal darker story (woo the evil d word) before using Morrison’s idea for the sequel and get better writers to get it done.

 

[Micromind]

Ya maybe WB will give them a personal darker story (woo the evil d word) before using Morrison’s idea for the sequel and get better writers to get it done.

So, Ezra and Morrison used their weird SciFi ideas to scare WB Exces and get them to agree for a darker take on Flash ?

Edit: They can still use Morrison's script for 2nd or 3rd Flash movie.

 

[StarLord]

Muschietti is directing too, right? Bill Skarsgård as Reverse Flash! Lol

 

[Micromind]

He can look sinister even without any makeup, lol.

 

[Consona]

Tenet IMAX prologue is 6:32 long.

Nolan is my fave filmmaker, but Goransson scoring it takes a big chunk of my hype out.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

He’s 50!

50 exclamation marks is the best kind of age.

 

[flickchick85]

Indeed.

 

[Da-Scribe]

@Black Narcissus @chintai80 Daisy Taylor fam. Men In Black erase wand me. Or not. I’m locked in.

 

[MbJ]

Let us see if the Flash actually stays on track this time. This project is cursed, man.

 

[Gee]

Nolan is my fave filmmaker, but Goransson scoring it takes a big chunk of my hype out.

You don't like his work or you're just bummed that Zimmer isn't doing the score?

 

[Consona]

You don't like his work or you're just bummed that Zimmer isn't doing the score?

Both. But the former more.

 

[chintai80]

@Black Narcissus @chintai80 Daisy Taylor fam. Men In Black erase wand me. Or not. I’m locked in.

i actually saw one of her films on my favorite website a few days ago. i did not know who she was.
but now i have a name to connect to her.
thank you and happy holidays good sir.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Both. But the former more.

I think I can agree to some degree about not liking Ludwig Goransson's work, his pieces aren't that great.

 

[Black Narcissus]

@Black Narcissus @chintai80 Daisy Taylor fam. Men In Black erase wand me. Or not. I’m locked in.

i actually saw one of her films on my favorite website a few days ago. i did not know who she was.
but now i have a name to connect to her.
thank you and happy holidays good sir.

Carmen Carrera is my only exception, but don't know.

 

[Black Narcissus]

And now I want to rewatch the nice guys.

 

[Consona]

I'm curious about the Mandalorian score. So far I've seen only 1 scene, and the music in it was, literally, one of the worst crap I've ever heard, ever. It was some action music, but ******ed to the highest degree.

A cat taking a nap on the keyboard could produce that. It was some stupid loud rhythmic synth patch, repeating over and over and over again, not reflecting what's happening on the screen in the slightest. I couldn't believe anyone had payed for this and was ok having this in his show. I was shocked had bad it was.

More so used in a Star Wars thing, whose films music is the pinnacle of film scoring!

People like this now get Oscars. F***ing meaningless.

But I hope the rest of the score is better. But setting the level so low, I don't know what to say. I would be ashamed giving any client a product like this.


As for Zimmer. Let's not pretend he's some compositional ultra-maestro. He's great at what he's doing. He can come up with great themes, amazingly great production and is very innovative. Structurally, some (and not just few) of his compositions are very plain, like in Inception, etc., but they still kick ass. But it shows a lot that he's like a rock-n-roll guy composing for things that sound like an orchestra, than a classical composer who composes for an orchestra.
I've never heard any piece of his that would be somewhere near the level of Williams, Herrmann or Rozsa, for example.
Yet, I love his music, because he's great at what he's producing, and his collaboration with Nolan has always worked.

I think Nolan is far from being as musically knowledgeable as someone like Spielberg or more old-school filmmakers, and again, it shows. Nolan never edits into music. He said it feels to him that scenes are then longer, if he takes music into consideration and he does not do that. Which is the exact opposite of when in older films music carried the movie a lot of the time. Like Luke and the binary sunset. The scene is rather long and the music there is the main thing and the film is edited to let the music do its thing. There are episodes of Twilight Zone (the old series) where directors were like "we don't have to show this and this, the music will tell all of what's important about it", and they let the music play. Like Luke and the sunset.

Nolan even said he does not want music to distract the viewer from the film. WTF, Chris, thanks for ruining modern movie music by making this an etalon, plus Zimmer makes everything so loud and vehement that I don't think Chris got what he wanted.
Maybe he saw Goransson won an Oscar so he took him, but at least Zimmer had his vision and experience, with Nolan letting the composer do his thing... that's what I'm afraid of.


I remember one conversation between Spielberg and Williams, where Williams said Spielberg needs a better composer for The Schindler's List and Spielberg responded, "I know. But they're all dead!" Spielberg is someone who is musically literate, unlike Nolan, Abrams and basically the majority of today's blockbuster filmmakers, and again, it shows.

For example a guy who cares about the music is Seth Macfarlane, when I saw who he hired to compose for The Orville, it was obvious he wants someone who can do quality orchestral music, not some modern s**t.

I'm not against electronic music or whatever, but I demand some level of craft when it comes to high budget stuff.
I was listening to Mozart and Beethoven a lot lately, and maybe I should stop so my expectations for music are not so high. Sometimes I'm listening to these recent scores and I'm like "So, when does the music start?".
I was listening to Herrmann's Northwest again, then to some Wonder Woman track, and I was like, well... I'm waiting... where's the composition? I don't want to sound harsh or anything, but that was literally how I felt like.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I haven't watched The Witcher, but the lead gal is really popular on certain reddit pages. Did some episodes leak or something?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I haven't watched The Witcher, but the lead gal is really popular on certain reddit pages. Did some episodes leak or something?

Is she exclusive to the show?