Great news! I'm glad that he's setting the record straight that it's not a spinoff, because too many people online are trying to say otherwise and keep saying Jessica should be a big part of his show, when he has an illustrious history without her that needs to be explored.
I think the most important takeaway is:
Cheo who is our showrunner, he brought a whole new writing team and the musicality, literally and figuratively, will be different.
Hope that means Coker brought in some diverse writers (who hopefully won't create annoying characters like the twin sister from JJ's show), and that music will be a big aspect of the show. I hope they choose hip hop songs that help set the tone for the show, and isn't just mainstream stuff. Hope we get some Nas, Common, Wu-Tang, AZ, etc (and not just the obvious stuff too) as well as some newer artists (Kendrick, J Cole, and even soul singers like BJ the Chicago Kid). Diverse selection from all around but mainly East-Coast inspired.
Other villains that I hope can eventually make their way through either Luke Cage's universe (or The Defenders) are Tombstone, Man Mountain Marko, and Hammerhead.
Great news! I'm glad that he's setting the record straight that it's not a spinoff, because too many people online are trying to say otherwise and keep saying Jessica should be a big part of his show, when he has an illustrious history without her that needs to be explored.
I think the most important takeaway is:
Hope that means Coker brought in some diverse writers (who hopefully won't create annoying characters like the twin sister from JJ's show), and that music will be a big aspect of the show. I hope they choose hip hop songs that help set the tone for the show, and isn't just mainstream stuff. Hope we get some Nas, Common, Wu-Tang, AZ, etc (and not just the obvious stuff too) as well as some newer artists (Kendrick, J Cole, and even soul singers like BJ the Chicago Kid). Diverse selection from all around but mainly East-Coast inspired.
Great news! I'm glad that he's setting the record straight that it's not a spinoff, because too many people online are trying to say otherwise and keep saying Jessica should be a big part of his show, when he has an illustrious history without her that needs to be explored.
I think the most important takeaway is:
Hope that means Coker brought in some diverse writers (who hopefully won't create annoying characters like the twin sister from JJ's show), and that music will be a big aspect of the show. I hope they choose hip hop songs that help set the tone for the show, and isn't just mainstream stuff. Hope we get some Nas, Common, Wu-Tang, AZ, etc (and not just the obvious stuff too) as well as some newer artists (Kendrick, J Cole, and even soul singers like BJ the Chicago Kid). Diverse selection from all around but mainly East-Coast inspired.
The problem with using the artists that you mentioned is it's going to cost a decent amount of money to use their music. I think they'll use some hip hop, but I think they'd be better off getting hip hop producer to help out with the score.
Ideally they'd have RZA since he's an expert a meshing modern hip hop sounds with 70's soul music, but I doubt the show could afford him.
The problem with using the artists that you mentioned is it's going to cost a decent amount of money to use their music. I think they'll use some hip hop, but I think they'd be better off getting hip hop producer to help out with the score.
In a reddit post that ended up being true (they revealed how Luke Cage lives above a Chinese restaurant - and this was confirmed by set photos) mentioned that:
Luke Cage is a dark, yet vibrantly kinetic world with cinematic scope -- SHAFT meets CITY OF GOD. The music is hip-hop in all its bombast and complexity, a living, breathing character in the show, with song choices ranging from the instantly recognizable classics to the fresh, next big thing.
More pictures of Mike Colter and Rosario Dawson filming for the show. Looks like Dawson will play a much bigger role than expected. And who knows, what if Cage has a relationship with Claire as opposed to Jessica? I always liked that pairing more than Luke/Jessica in the books, and this is a different universe than the comics, so the change could happen.
They better not have him end up with Jessica after what they did during her series. That'd be outright damaging to Luke as a character:
Jessica killed Luke's WIFE, kept it a secret from him, lied to him about it, slept with him, then was willing to let someone else take the fall for it.
You can't turn around and have him in a relationship with Jessica after that.
She basically did to Luke what Killgrave did to her.
That's FAR beyond the bounds of forgiveness though. Keep in mind it wasn't just some woman he knew or some childhood sweetheart, it was his WIFE.
I can see him forgiving her and them being nn friendly terms again, but them getting together and maybe even getting married is HUGE stretch considering what she did.
They better not have him end up with Jessica after what they did during her series. That'd be outright damaging to Luke as a character:
Jessica killed Luke's WIFE, kept it a secret from him, lied to him about it, slept with him, then was willing to let someone else take the fall for it.
You can't turn around and have him in a relationship with Jessica after that.
She basically did to Luke what Killgrave did to her.
I think that's very true if it weren't for the fact that Luke experiencing being Killgraved first hand.
I'll admit that for the longest time I thought Luke's role in JJ was pretty much a pointless cameo meant to get comic book fans excited but not doing much to serve the characters in any larger way. Jessica, Trish, Simpson, Malcolm, Killgrave, even Robyn have some sort of character growth/movement, but I just wasn't seeing that with Luke. It was really late in the series before it clicked for me, even though I had spotted the first signs of it almost immediately.
The scene where Luke and Jessica are in bed and she asks him if he believes in Killgrave. I recognized that for what it was immediately, and I doubt many people missed it. Jessica is basically wondering if this new guy in her life is someone who will believe her about her past abuse, and unfortunately - as often happens in real life - Luke just doesn't understand. Not out of malice, of course, he just doesn't believe someone can exert that kind of control over another person despite the fact that he's a dude with unbreakable skin living in a city recently invaded by aliens. And that is terribly reflective of real life, where even good people can ignore/disbelieve a survivor's story because it's easier to say that the fault somehow lies with the victim. Who wouldn't rather believe that Hope is just some psychopath that killed her parents than accept the idea that no matter how good or strong you are that it's possible for you to be completely powerless and under another person's control?
Luke's character arc comes from the fact that he is later put in the same situation as Jessica. Not identical, of course, but he comes face to face with her abuser and finds that despite all his physical power he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. It's pretty much the worst way possible but he learns just how powerless Killgrave's version of manipulation leaves a person. Sure, we don't see a direct resolution to this on screen but I don't know if we necessarily need to in order to understand at last some of what Luke must be going through.
If it had gone down any other way I would completely agree with you. Even if Luke had been proven wrong simply be witnessing Killgrave's effects on others I don't think he could have ever forgiven Jessica. It's sort of a running theme of the show, though, that people keep insisting that, yes, Jessica, of course they understand how bad Killgrave is but they never truly grasp it until they find themselves under his control. It's easy to intellectually accept Kilgrave's existence but part of you will always believe that other people are exaggerating, that you would somehow be immune to his powers, that they are somehow flawed, weak, allowing to happen. But when you find yourself in that position you realizing just how horrifying it is to have all your agency removed.
Luke has been there. He suffered the trauma and when he woke up instead of staying and facing it straight on he runs and that is fine. He needed time and distance to deal with what had happened, and I'd say it's likely that the effects of being Killgraved stay with him for a while. So that when he is ready to see Jessica again, I believe he will be in a position where he is more forgiving and accepting of what happened to her.
ETA: Oh god I talk way too much, but just wanted to add that because he was Killgraved Luke should know very well that Jessica didn't murder his wife. Killgrave murdered her, Jessica is just the weapon he used. He would have killed Jessica using Luke and no matter how pissed at her as he might have been I very much doubt that Luke was complacent in wanting Jessica dead. Yet he does a lot worse than giving her a push. As for what happened next - Jessica sleeping with him and lying about why she was following him - that is the reason I think having him just disappear at the end was the best decision they could have made. He needs time to understand what happened to him, the conflicting emotions/thoughts he felt while under Killgrave's control, and he needs to recover in his own way. What Jessica did was messed up, but she had been seriously messed up by what was done to her. I think with time and this experience Luke will recognize that.
Jessica's sin is not having been forthright about why she was even near Luke. But considering her trauma and guilt over it, I think it's understandable, and Luke will come to that same conclusion.
Jessica's sin is not having been forthright about why she was even near Luke. But considering her trauma and guilt over it, I think it's understandable, and Luke will come to that same conclusion.
If it was just her being hesitant in telling Luke that'd be understandable, but she was actively trying to cover things up. There's also the fact that every bad thing that happens to Luke in the series is because of Jessica. If she's not stalking him and doesn't pick him up at his bar he pretty much goes on with his life as it was.
It's one thing to say Luke could end up having some sort o a friendship after something like that, it's another to think that after all of that they'd be in a romantic relationship and have a kid. There's also the simple fact that Jessica hasn't come close to doing anything to earn forgiveness from Luke.
In general I'm just tired of narratives where some black person is seriously harmed or wronged by someone else and them forgiving them is propped up as being some noble type of character development.
The biggest test for this show will be making Luke's rogues gallery interesting. In the comics they're largely seen as jokes. Though the new Power Man and Iron Fist series (which is GREAT) is using Black Mariah and will likely make her formidable.
I do wonder how they plan to set up the villains in the flashback, and how Cottonmouth and Black Mariah play a part in it. From Marvel's description of Shades, it definitely looks like he has ties to Cage's past (probably referencing their time spent as part of the Rivals and in Seagate Prison), which does make me wonder where Comanche is (along with other Cage mainstays like DW Griffith, Willis Stryker, Rackham, Burnstein, etc).
With Cottonmouth, I think the main focus of this season is Cage finding out what landed him in jail. Remembering his comic origin, he was falsely accused after Stryker used a heroin shipment of Cottonmouth's and framed Cage. So with Cage back in Harlem, noticing the level of crime, his investigations will take him into conflict with Cottonmouth, with them using the storylines with Flea as the informant and Cage gong undercover as a goon of Cottonmouth's. Season 2 will most likely have Willis Stryker as the main antagonist, with a full exploration of the Cage/Stryker feud. Too bad Marvel already used Reva Connors as she was a key part in that dynamic.
As for Black Mariah, I think they mentioned somewhere that she's a cousin of Cottonmouth in this series. So she'll be set up as a community organizer but really be exposed to have corrupt roots and activites.
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