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Discussion in 'Marvel Films' started by Project862006, Sep 27, 2012.
You can pretty much write off the Fox Marvel movies now.
This is pretty awesome news. Fox is the company to beat as far I'm concerned. If only they let him at wolverine ahead of time.
I hope you like cannibals!
Is it the best person?
Is it a step in the right direction?
I think Millar is a little too derided sometimes - he has done some very capable mainstream superhero work in the comics, but that does tend to take the backseat to his crazier work (where he has become a cliche).
Still, this is a good step for Fox in general - the fact that they care enough to do this is a big deal. Fox are notorious for rushing these films, just getting anyone who can deliver within a ridiculously tight window. They usually wouldn't bother actually having this kind of consultation.
Not as far as Marvel characters/CBM are concerned!!!
I dont see how this is bad in any way. Seems Fox is trying to push making more solid decisions with their properties. All the Directors they have are solid right now and Millar knows his **** better then any Fox exec. Rothmans gone and Millars now overseeing whats goen on for future flcks. This all seems like great news to me.
I get that he's the guy to hate(we have plenty of those in film), but anyone that doesn't appreciate his Superman work alone is just being obtuse.
His other works such as the acclaimed ultimates(which whedon wrote the forward for if i'm not mistaken), xmen, civil war have been absolute cultural hits, Which is what these films strive to be! I've read his creator owned stuff and it's out there, fine, let it be, it's another thing. I don't look at kirkmans walking dead and say he's too silly violent for mainstream, it's its own thing.
Millar's comic mainstream work is top notch. "marvel fans" have have their first avenger and thor films, I'd personally prefer a bolder touch. His jingo cap personally saved the character for me. Ulitmates one is some of the best cap work I've seen. His Cap vs Chris Evans?
Fox is looking to him for mainstream work, which means we'll get the mainstream Millar. His one issue of JLA 27 with amazo was excellent. Anyone that hates that is an idiot imo.
Oh gosh, he's going to turn FF into Kick Ass.
And I get that he's written some good stuff on paper but THIS IS MOTION PICTURES... What Joss Whedon has that he's written comic book stories but he also has experience behind the cameras so he has a vision that Fox can't get from Millar. Like I've said before Fantastic Four could be awesome ( or more than likely just short) but If they rush it just to keep the rights and have to put this movie out against the Avengers 2. After shooting Wolverine they're getting on X-Men DOFP and then FF reboot just squeaking next to the revert deadline.. Man I just don't feel good about this and I don't care who they get to consult unless its Marvel/Disney cause if I was them I'd give them no extentions unlike what they did for Fox with Daredevil..
He's the consultant, not the director. His film experience(which he does have actually) isn't really an issue here.
For example, as a consultant, if fox pitched you tim stories fantastic four, would you "Dr Tactics" with your limited experience as a filmmaker, be in a position to help that property or make it worse? The thing about Millar is that he writes some kick ass mainstream plots. Mainly cause unlike hollywood he knows comics and unlike us fans, he's good enough to write them at top caliber levels. If any one should be consulted it's someone like that. Film experience isn't all that big an issue at this point.
This is the dude responsible for Cap going fist to fist with Iron man. Let him consult and give the main stream audience more things like that.
I can see it now: Reed Richards is an alcoholic, wife beating cannibal. Sue Richards is a pill popping, hippie, granola, scientist. Johnny Storm is a flashy, martini drinking, homosexual. And Thing...cannibal!!
Wolverine? Cannibal! Cyclops drug addicted, religious zealot. Oh and Beast....Cannibal!!!
yes, that makes perfect sense. It's literally what he did the last time he had complete control over the characters with editors standing by. I can also see it now.
i'm semi intrigued with what the plan is. FF and x-men don't really cross over that much. but they could expand x-men into multiple teams x-factor force etc. leading to them all joining up for AoA and other x-events. they could mimic hulk wolverine battles using thing. deadpool could have a spider-man type dynamic with the FF. they are definitely rebooting FF but would they reboot x-men when it's bringing in money for them already. if they don't reboot x-men they it'd be hard to find a tone for FF that would fit. anyway it's win win either they do something good or screw the pooch and marvel can get the rights back when they actually have time to do something with them. perhaps the events of DoFP will actually reboot the x-men in continuity.
It could be a clever strategy depending on how the new FF works. Although X-Men have such a large universe on their own, I'm not sure if it's necessary on a story level to crossover.
If it means they make FF a period piece, I'm all for it though.
For me, its just a resounding meh. Its another "creator consultant", which doesn't seem to amount to much in most projects. From what I've seen, Millar's only really good at refining existing classic elements and parody/satire. Besides being a fan, I don't see what he'd bring to the table that gives me any more hope for FOX Marvel superhero projects.
I guess we can look forward to more ULTIMATE influence moving forward. Which there kind of already was. But it seems really unlikely that FOX would greenlight films stemming from the kind of ULTIMATES material that Millar made himself a big name on.Millar's not exactly a purist, either, and seems to be ok with reinventing pretty much anything. I don't see this really having all that much impact on the overall quality of the individual films.
....Dude, put down whatever you're smoking
i expect he's just drunk cos it's miller time.
"consulting" means nothing if no one actually listens to him. Stan Lee had a "consulting" role on the early Marvel TV projects but had no genuine creative control.
I'd say, unless he actually gets to be an active producer and, preferably, writer, on these projects, it's kind of like window dressing to a certain demo of fans..
By the way-- "Old Man Logan" as a movie will be thematically hobbled without the other characters that are not Fox-licensed...
I wish X-Men and Fantastic 4 would go back to Marvel!
Chris Claremont and Stan Lee were both "consultants" for the first X-Men movie. Not that big a deal.
Wasn't he one of the Marvel people who were hired when they were making the first Iron Man movie. I could've sworn i saw something like a round table discussion with marvel artists and Jon Favreau where they were pitching ideas back and forth
I think this is the first time Fox in an official press release acknowledges Josh Trank working on a Fantastic Four movie.
One other thing to notice: No Daredevil mentioned in this press release .
I can't wait to see what happens with Millar and the X-men. I think he really loves them and might bring their classic coolness back. It might even help their comics as well. They haven't really been relevant since M-day.
Back on topic though, I'm sure Vaughn is thrilled! I'm hope between the two of them they do for the X-men what Whedon and Feige did for the Avengers!
I'll be a believer when Trank actually starts shooting the damn thing. Until then there's no guarantee he won't be just the next director departee.
Not necessarily. Sure seeing cap and skull and hulk and where all the others landed was fun from a fan perspective, but from a story telling point of view, the unforgiven style themes would sell themselves. A man of violence swears never to pull out the claws again(after one crazy night). Instead of the green guys showing up to collect rent it could just as easily be other or even new muscle. What matters in that scene is how logan handles it. And that's how it would go for the entire film. However if that sort of thing was so important(something I'm glad millar would be involved with, thank goodness), they fox does own a good deal of characters worth making that happen with. For example switching frost with sue storm.
But I don't see this movie happening.