Born Again Marvel Studios’ Daredevil: Born Again General Discussion Thread

[Herolee10]

If the rumors about Season 2 are true...

Spoiler

Then I really hope to see Danny Rand return in an actual comic-accurate costume as the Iron Fist.

 

[awezmo]

Questions:

Episode 1:
1.-Why does Bullseye go after such a complicated revenge against Matt instead of going after Kingpin?
2.-Why does Karen leave? Given she is not weak, doesn't run away from issues and doesn't just abandon those she cares about, as evidenced in previous seasons and during Punisher, why does she decide to just leave now when Matt needs her? Why was Matt unable to open up to her given how much character development he had in the previous seasons (in particular, season 3)?
3.-Why is Maggie nowhere to be seen?
4.-How is it that Vanessa is now Queenpin? What kind of off-screen character development happened and why am I supposed to just accept it as a viewer without ever getting to know what she went through exactly?
5.-How is the city voting for Kingpin with all of his history? Is Disney truly trying to make the audience buy this is how politics work and that's why the orange man got elected? (I know this was filmed way before it but this is Disney and they could've been referencing 2016).
6.-Why should I care about what the individuals BB chooses to interview have to say about the city? After all, she does seem to interview just about anyone who wants to speak, no matter if they have any valuable insight. This could have been shown through other ways like just literally showing what is happening instead of having someone tell you.
7.-What is the purpose of the weird guy that follows Fisk so blindly? He seems to have no personality besides following Wilson, is he a parody of something or someone? If so, does he somehow work as a character beyond a parody?

Episode 2:
1.-Why is Kingpin all of the sudden unable to understand anything about politics or people's interests without having someone explain it to him? It's not like with Wesley when he genuinely had some insight. Here, Kingpin seems genuinely clueless.
2.-Why does BB choose not to build up a conversation before getting confrontational? Why doesn't she ask more questions and instead explains the cop situation to Wilson? Is she supposed to be a bad reporter? I mean, she doesn't hold a candle to her uncle.
3.-Why does Wilson go to the funeral of a cop knowing they hate him? Why does he not realize that is a subpar move, especially for him?
4.-Why is the commissioner surprised when he gets blackmailed by Fisk after he himself tells him off in his face for being a corrupt piece of s**t (not his literal words)? Is he dumb?
5.-Why does Powell not shoot Hector in the head after he showed him his plaque? After all, he's corrupt and so is half the force and not to mention, for all everyone knows, Hector killed a cop, why doesn't he say it was in self-defense after a crazy guy assaulted him and his partner or some other lie? I thought that having a train behind him could've been an impediment but it's just a matter of ordering him to turn around, handcuff him, put him in the middle of the platform and if you're worrying about the autopsy report, these guys are the literal embodiment of corruption so it would have been swept under the rug. I mean, he could've gotten creative in many ways, why didn't he? Is Powell mentally challenged?
6.-Why does Matt not escape through the window with his witness? After all, it's not like he bought him any time, he just opens the door for them and they weren't trying to open it by force prior to that, so... Why? Was he looking for a fight? If so, why? Has he gone mad with the punching thirst?
How does Powell survive having his head being slammed against the f***ing ground?

Episode 3:
1.-Why are we supposed to believe Cherry is some sort of talented investigator when he finds the White Tiger costume in a box literally under the Ayala's bed?
2.-By the way, why of all places does Hector hide it under his bed? Isn't this guy suppose to conceal his identity from loved ones? Are you seriously telling me the wife never looks below the bed she sleeps?
3.-Also, why is Mcduffie a great lawyer? So far and during this whole court case she does f**k all. In a similar case with the Punisher in season two, Foggy is far more involved and we even see him argue in court. Here, she is just said to be a great lawyer, but we never *see* her being a great lawyer, why should we believe it?
4.-Why does the witness backpedal? His life was already in danger, why now? If he gets killed now, it's even more suspicious and far more public, was he not informed of this? If so, why? Isn't Matt used to handling these kinds of things? Especially with Nadeem and all he went through, I mean, why? Just why?
5.-The whole court case made me lose neurons, how in the world does it make sense in the slightest? And not from the sense of whether or not it has precedents in the real world but more in the sense of clever script writing by a billionaire company? I mean, it kind of looks like a parody of Better Call Saul.
6.-Why does it feel like Matt can't argue without losing his cool about vigilantism related cases? Where is Season 2 Matt who could do this to an extent whilst making sense?
7.-What is with the White Tiger costume? Did Matt and Cherry get to it first? Why doesn't either side that got to it first just conceal it? Matt should probably be empathetic towards Hector in his efforts to hide his identity, besides he was also in favor of avoiding this subject as he argued it had no relevance until his witness inexplicably backpedals causing him to go batsh*t insane and the cops wouldn't want anyone to know this man is actually a vigilante that saves lives anyway so, again, why don't they conceal this?
8.-Does anyone else feel that White Tiger gets severely underused? Did Kamar's condition and his passing had to do with him not featuring any more than two episodes? If so, what a shame.
9.-Also, why kill him in the same way that Deadpool kills Deadpool in that post-credit Deadpool 2 scene? I mean, couldn't you do it in a far more serious way? I don't know, maybe having watched both scenes has got to do with why I found it funny more so than tragic.

Episode 4:
1.-Why is Leroy a character? Am I suppose to know him from somewhere? What does he add to the plot? Why does it feel like Disney is trying to paint him with nuance only to ultimately fail at doing so? I mean, he steals, he insults Matt before and after he gets his sentence lowered and justifies stealing because he "wants something nice every now and then"? I am paraphrasing but it was something along those lines, I kind of understood that he's being treated unfairly by the police but I don't get any reason to root for him as he seems to be a guy that made his own luck, in other words, he got into everything he's being accused of. Also, why is his story relevant to the rest of the plot? What is so important?
2.-By the way, who is that lawyer Matt spends like five minutes talking to? Should I care about her? Why does Matt tell her what she had for breakfast because he smelled it and convinces her "it's a blind thing"? Like, if a blind man walks up to me and smells what I had for breakfast and tries to sell me every blind person can do that, I am either calling the cops, getting a restraining order or calling him a Doctor because that's a Strange condition (sorry).
3.-Is that it for Punisher? Was that his whole participation? Why in hell does he seem to not care at all about, I don't know... Punishing the cops using his badge as a gang sign?

Episode 5:
1.-Why does this episode exist?
2.-Why is it okay to throw publicity for another Disney show when it does nothing to move the plot or develop any character?
3.-Why does it feel like Money Heist (2017), only dumbed-down to mentally challenged levels?
4.-Why does Matt not just suit up in order to save the day? If you tell me that he was intending to persuade the bank into funding his law firm by doing this showing his face to the assistant whilst Daredevilin', I would say this is so not Matt, he wouldn't do this just for personal gain, not even a little. So why doesn't he suit up or use a far more strategical approach and quickly dispose of the robbers who are clearly drunk or something?
Isn't it convenient that these fine Irish gentlemen just so happen to rob the same bank Matt is at? Is this the sole bank in NYC?
5.-Is Kim drunk?
6.-Why does Matt have a british accent all of the sudden? When and where was this foreshadowed in any season prior?
7.-How is it that the hostages don't immediately assume either Yusuf or Matt to be some sort of badasses? They descended with two armed robbers and came back without them AND with the object these thugs were looking for, did they assume the thieves were having tea time and couldn't be bothered to accompany Murdock and Khan?

Episode 6:
1.-Were the first dialogue bits more filler or did I miss how that moves the plot or develops characters?
2.-Why is Heather asking about masks, in a world with internet, anonymity and superheroes that hide behind masks, she can't possibly be the first human to wonder about this? It's supposed to be some sort of moment that works on its own and as an allegory or subtext of sorts (I think?) for Matt hiding his identity but the problem is that I don't think in such a world she can be the first psychiatrist to have asked this, can it be?
3.-Again, why does Kingpin all of the sudden not know a thing and relies on Queenpin explaining him everything, even how fundraisers work?

Over all:
1.-Why is there not that much catholicism in this season? Considering that is how Matt always deals with his problems, having him distance himself from his Christianity seems like he's a completely different character. You could say hence the name, "Born Again" but at this point you may as well rename the character because Daredevil and Christianity are intertwined. In six episodes we get one short (probably CGI) church scene and only two times we hear him pray. Again, where the hell is Maggie? Did I miss catholic references of sorts? Allegories to catholic themes?
2.-Heather, how can I take her as a serious character or a serious relationship? She's barely on the show, has the most dull chats with Matt and has zero chemistry, they literally get together after having an awfully superficial chat. I know Matt and Elektra weren't necessarily that deep from the start but they had chemistry and they were young so it was excusable, even with Claire he had more story and definitely a lot more with Karen, what did I miss?
3.-Why are politics handled like they were written for four year olds? The pothole scene exemplifies this.
4.-Why are so many, if not all, characters so mentally challenged so often?
5.-Why is Matt apparently looking to out himself as Daredevil or something?
6.-If Maya gave Kingpin a spiritual "procedure" of sorts to heal his trauma and at the beginning of this show he claims to be a changed man but then reveals that isn't true in the slightest, does that mean that Ayahuasca-induced-Chakra-aligning-Trauma-healing trips don't work (asking for a friend)?

 

[Herolee10]

Questions:

Episode 1:
1.-Why does Bullseye go after such a complicated revenge against Matt instead of going after Kingpin?
2.-Why does Karen leave? Given she is not weak, doesn't run away from issues and doesn't just abandon those she cares about, as evidenced in previous seasons and during Punisher, why does she decide to just leave now when Matt needs her? Why was Matt unable to open up to her given how much character development he had in the previous seasons (in particular, season 3)?
3.-Why is Maggie nowhere to be seen?
4.-How is it that Vanessa is now Queenpin? What kind of off-screen character development happened and why am I supposed to just accept it as a viewer without ever getting to know what she went through exactly?
5.-How is the city voting for Kingpin with all of his history? Is Disney truly trying to make the audience buy this is how politics work and that's why the orange man got elected? (I know this was filmed way before it but this is Disney and they could've been referencing 2016).
6.-Why should I care about what the individuals BB chooses to interview have to say about the city? After all, she does seem to interview just about anyone who wants to speak, no matter if they have any valuable insight. This could have been shown through other ways like just literally showing what is happening instead of having someone tell you.
7.-What is the purpose of the weird guy that follows Fisk so blindly? He seems to have no personality besides following Wilson, is he a parody of something or someone? If so, does he somehow work as a character beyond a parody?

Episode 2:
1.-Why is Kingpin all of the sudden unable to understand anything about politics or people's interests without having someone explain it to him? It's not like with Wesley when he genuinely had some insight. Here, Kingpin seems genuinely clueless.
2.-Why does BB choose not to build up a conversation before getting confrontational? Why doesn't she ask more questions and instead explains the cop situation to Wilson? Is she supposed to be a bad reporter? I mean, she doesn't hold a candle to her uncle.
3.-Why does Wilson go to the funeral of a cop knowing they hate him? Why does he not realize that is a subpar move, especially for him?
4.-Why is the commissioner surprised when he gets blackmailed by Fisk after he himself tells him off in his face for being a corrupt piece of s**t (not his literal words)? Is he dumb?
5.-Why does Powell not shoot Hector in the head after he showed him his plaque? After all, he's corrupt and so is half the force and not to mention, for all everyone knows, Hector killed a cop, why doesn't he say it was in self-defense after a crazy guy assaulted him and his partner or some other lie? I thought that having a train behind him could've been an impediment but it's just a matter of ordering him to turn around, handcuff him, put him in the middle of the platform and if you're worrying about the autopsy report, these guys are the literal embodiment of corruption so it would have been swept under the rug. I mean, he could've gotten creative in many ways, why didn't he? Is Powell mentally challenged?
6.-Why does Matt not escape through the window with his witness? After all, it's not like he bought him any time, he just opens the door for them and they weren't trying to open it by force prior to that, so... Why? Was he looking for a fight? If so, why? Has he gone mad with the punching thirst?
How does Powell survive having his head being slammed against the f***ing ground?

Episode 3:
1.-Why are we supposed to believe Cherry is some sort of talented investigator when he finds the White Tiger costume in a box literally under the Ayala's bed?
2.-By the way, why of all places does Hector hide it under his bed? Isn't this guy suppose to conceal his identity from loved ones? Are you seriously telling me the wife never looks below the bed she sleeps?
3.-Also, why is Mcduffie a great lawyer? So far and during this whole court case she does f**k all. In a similar case with the Punisher in season two, Foggy is far more involved and we even see him argue in court. Here, she is just said to be a great lawyer, but we never *see* her being a great lawyer, why should we believe it?
4.-Why does the witness backpedal? His life was already in danger, why now? If he gets killed now, it's even more suspicious and far more public, was he not informed of this? If so, why? Isn't Matt used to handling these kinds of things? Especially with Nadeem and all he went through, I mean, why? Just why?
5.-The whole court case made me lose neurons, how in the world does it make sense in the slightest? And not from the sense of whether or not it has precedents in the real world but more in the sense of clever script writing by a billionaire company? I mean, it kind of looks like a parody of Better Call Saul.
6.-Why does it feel like Matt can't argue without losing his cool about vigilantism related cases? Where is Season 2 Matt who could do this to an extent whilst making sense?
7.-What is with the White Tiger costume? Did Matt and Cherry get to it first? Why doesn't either side that got to it first just conceal it? Matt should probably be empathetic towards Hector in his efforts to hide his identity, besides he was also in favor of avoiding this subject as he argued it had no relevance until his witness inexplicably backpedals causing him to go batsh*t insane and the cops wouldn't want anyone to know this man is actually a vigilante that saves lives anyway so, again, why don't they conceal this?
8.-Does anyone else feel that White Tiger gets severely underused? Did Kamar's condition and his passing had to do with him not featuring any more than two episodes? If so, what a shame.
9.-Also, why kill him in the same way that Deadpool kills Deadpool in that post-credit Deadpool 2 scene? I mean, couldn't you do it in a far more serious way? I don't know, maybe having watched both scenes has got to do with why I found it funny more so than tragic.

Episode 4:
1.-Why is Leroy a character? Am I suppose to know him from somewhere? What does he add to the plot? Why does it feel like Disney is trying to paint him with nuance only to ultimately fail at doing so? I mean, he steals, he insults Matt before and after he gets his sentence lowered and justifies stealing because he "wants something nice every now and then"? I am paraphrasing but it was something along those lines, I kind of understood that he's being treated unfairly by the police but I don't get any reason to root for him as he seems to be a guy that made his own luck, in other words, he got into everything he's being accused of. Also, why is his story relevant to the rest of the plot? What is so important?
2.-By the way, who is that lawyer Matt spends like five minutes talking to? Should I care about her? Why does Matt tell her what she had for breakfast because he smelled it and convinces her "it's a blind thing"? Like, if a blind man walks up to me and smells what I had for breakfast and tries to sell me every blind person can do that, I am either calling the cops, getting a restraining order or calling him a Doctor because that's a Strange condition (sorry).
3.-Is that it for Punisher? Was that his whole participation? Why in hell does he seem to not care at all about, I don't know... Punishing the cops using his badge as a gang sign?

Episode 5:
1.-Why does this episode exist?
2.-Why is it okay to throw publicity for another Disney show when it does nothing to move the plot or develop any character?
3.-Why does it feel like Money Heist (2017), only dumbed-down to mentally challenged levels?
4.-Why does Matt not just suit up in order to save the day? If you tell me that he was intending to persuade the bank into funding his law firm by doing this showing his face to the assistant whilst Daredevilin', I would say this is so not Matt, he wouldn't do this just for personal gain, not even a little. So why doesn't he suit up or use a far more strategical approach and quickly dispose of the robbers who are clearly drunk or something?
Isn't it convenient that these fine Irish gentlemen just so happen to rob the same bank Matt is at? Is this the sole bank in NYC?
5.-Is Kim drunk?
6.-Why does Matt have a british accent all of the sudden? When and where was this foreshadowed in any season prior?
7.-How is it that the hostages don't immediately assume either Yusuf or Matt to be some sort of badasses? They descended with two armed robbers and came back without them AND with the object these thugs were looking for, did they assume the thieves were having tea time and couldn't be bothered to accompany Murdock and Khan?

Episode 6:
1.-Were the first dialogue bits more filler or did I miss how that moves the plot or develops characters?
2.-Why is Heather asking about masks, in a world with internet, anonymity and superheroes that hide behind masks, she can't possibly be the first human to wonder about this? It's supposed to be some sort of moment that works on its own and as an allegory or subtext of sorts (I think?) for Matt hiding his identity but the problem is that I don't think in such a world she can be the first psychiatrist to have asked this, can it be?
3.-Again, why does Kingpin all of the sudden not know a thing and relies on Queenpin explaining him everything, even how fundraisers work?

Over all:
1.-Why is there not that much catholicism in this season? Considering that is how Matt always deals with his problems, having him distance himself from his Christianity seems like he's a completely different character. You could say hence the name, "Born Again" but at this point you may as well rename the character because Daredevil and Christianity are intertwined. In six episodes we get one short (probably CGI) church scene and only two times we hear him pray. Again, where the hell is Maggie? Did I miss catholic references of sorts? Allegories to catholic themes?
2.-Heather, how can I take her as a serious character or a serious relationship? She's barely on the show, has the most dull chats with Matt and has zero chemistry, they literally get together after having an awfully superficial chat. I know Matt and Elektra weren't necessarily that deep from the start but they had chemistry and they were young so it was excusable, even with Claire he had more story and definitely a lot more with Karen, what did I miss?
3.-Why are politics handled like they were written for four year olds? The pothole scene exemplifies this.
4.-Why are so many, if not all, characters so mentally challenged so often?
5.-Why is Matt apparently looking to out himself as Daredevil or something?
6.-If Maya gave Kingpin a spiritual "procedure" of sorts to heal his trauma and at the beginning of this show he claims to be a changed man but then reveals that isn't true in the slightest, does that mean that Ayahuasca-induced-Chakra-aligning-Trauma-healing trips don't work (asking for a friend)?

 

[TheVileOne]

I guess the only way to find out is to keep watching.

 

[DeadlyWest]

Questions:

Episode 1:
1.-Why does Bullseye go after such a complicated revenge against Matt instead of going after Kingpin?
2.-Why does Karen leave? Given she is not weak, doesn't run away from issues and doesn't just abandon those she cares about, as evidenced in previous seasons and during Punisher, why does she decide to just leave now when Matt needs her? Why was Matt unable to open up to her given how much character development he had in the previous seasons (in particular, season 3)?
3.-Why is Maggie nowhere to be seen?
4.-How is it that Vanessa is now Queenpin? What kind of off-screen character development happened and why am I supposed to just accept it as a viewer without ever getting to know what she went through exactly?
5.-How is the city voting for Kingpin with all of his history? Is Disney truly trying to make the audience buy this is how politics work and that's why the orange man got elected? (I know this was filmed way before it but this is Disney and they could've been referencing 2016).
6.-Why should I care about what the individuals BB chooses to interview have to say about the city? After all, she does seem to interview just about anyone who wants to speak, no matter if they have any valuable insight. This could have been shown through other ways like just literally showing what is happening instead of having someone tell you.
7.-What is the purpose of the weird guy that follows Fisk so blindly? He seems to have no personality besides following Wilson, is he a parody of something or someone? If so, does he somehow work as a character beyond a parody?

Episode 2:
1.-Why is Kingpin all of the sudden unable to understand anything about politics or people's interests without having someone explain it to him? It's not like with Wesley when he genuinely had some insight. Here, Kingpin seems genuinely clueless.
2.-Why does BB choose not to build up a conversation before getting confrontational? Why doesn't she ask more questions and instead explains the cop situation to Wilson? Is she supposed to be a bad reporter? I mean, she doesn't hold a candle to her uncle.
3.-Why does Wilson go to the funeral of a cop knowing they hate him? Why does he not realize that is a subpar move, especially for him?
4.-Why is the commissioner surprised when he gets blackmailed by Fisk after he himself tells him off in his face for being a corrupt piece of s**t (not his literal words)? Is he dumb?
5.-Why does Powell not shoot Hector in the head after he showed him his plaque? After all, he's corrupt and so is half the force and not to mention, for all everyone knows, Hector killed a cop, why doesn't he say it was in self-defense after a crazy guy assaulted him and his partner or some other lie? I thought that having a train behind him could've been an impediment but it's just a matter of ordering him to turn around, handcuff him, put him in the middle of the platform and if you're worrying about the autopsy report, these guys are the literal embodiment of corruption so it would have been swept under the rug. I mean, he could've gotten creative in many ways, why didn't he? Is Powell mentally challenged?
6.-Why does Matt not escape through the window with his witness? After all, it's not like he bought him any time, he just opens the door for them and they weren't trying to open it by force prior to that, so... Why? Was he looking for a fight? If so, why? Has he gone mad with the punching thirst?
How does Powell survive having his head being slammed against the f***ing ground?

Episode 3:
1.-Why are we supposed to believe Cherry is some sort of talented investigator when he finds the White Tiger costume in a box literally under the Ayala's bed?
2.-By the way, why of all places does Hector hide it under his bed? Isn't this guy suppose to conceal his identity from loved ones? Are you seriously telling me the wife never looks below the bed she sleeps?
3.-Also, why is Mcduffie a great lawyer? So far and during this whole court case she does f**k all. In a similar case with the Punisher in season two, Foggy is far more involved and we even see him argue in court. Here, she is just said to be a great lawyer, but we never *see* her being a great lawyer, why should we believe it?
4.-Why does the witness backpedal? His life was already in danger, why now? If he gets killed now, it's even more suspicious and far more public, was he not informed of this? If so, why? Isn't Matt used to handling these kinds of things? Especially with Nadeem and all he went through, I mean, why? Just why?
5.-The whole court case made me lose neurons, how in the world does it make sense in the slightest? And not from the sense of whether or not it has precedents in the real world but more in the sense of clever script writing by a billionaire company? I mean, it kind of looks like a parody of Better Call Saul.
6.-Why does it feel like Matt can't argue without losing his cool about vigilantism related cases? Where is Season 2 Matt who could do this to an extent whilst making sense?
7.-What is with the White Tiger costume? Did Matt and Cherry get to it first? Why doesn't either side that got to it first just conceal it? Matt should probably be empathetic towards Hector in his efforts to hide his identity, besides he was also in favor of avoiding this subject as he argued it had no relevance until his witness inexplicably backpedals causing him to go batsh*t insane and the cops wouldn't want anyone to know this man is actually a vigilante that saves lives anyway so, again, why don't they conceal this?
8.-Does anyone else feel that White Tiger gets severely underused? Did Kamar's condition and his passing had to do with him not featuring any more than two episodes? If so, what a shame.
9.-Also, why kill him in the same way that Deadpool kills Deadpool in that post-credit Deadpool 2 scene? I mean, couldn't you do it in a far more serious way? I don't know, maybe having watched both scenes has got to do with why I found it funny more so than tragic.

Episode 4:
1.-Why is Leroy a character? Am I suppose to know him from somewhere? What does he add to the plot? Why does it feel like Disney is trying to paint him with nuance only to ultimately fail at doing so? I mean, he steals, he insults Matt before and after he gets his sentence lowered and justifies stealing because he "wants something nice every now and then"? I am paraphrasing but it was something along those lines, I kind of understood that he's being treated unfairly by the police but I don't get any reason to root for him as he seems to be a guy that made his own luck, in other words, he got into everything he's being accused of. Also, why is his story relevant to the rest of the plot? What is so important?
2.-By the way, who is that lawyer Matt spends like five minutes talking to? Should I care about her? Why does Matt tell her what she had for breakfast because he smelled it and convinces her "it's a blind thing"? Like, if a blind man walks up to me and smells what I had for breakfast and tries to sell me every blind person can do that, I am either calling the cops, getting a restraining order or calling him a Doctor because that's a Strange condition (sorry).
3.-Is that it for Punisher? Was that his whole participation? Why in hell does he seem to not care at all about, I don't know... Punishing the cops using his badge as a gang sign?

Episode 5:
1.-Why does this episode exist?
2.-Why is it okay to throw publicity for another Disney show when it does nothing to move the plot or develop any character?
3.-Why does it feel like Money Heist (2017), only dumbed-down to mentally challenged levels?
4.-Why does Matt not just suit up in order to save the day? If you tell me that he was intending to persuade the bank into funding his law firm by doing this showing his face to the assistant whilst Daredevilin', I would say this is so not Matt, he wouldn't do this just for personal gain, not even a little. So why doesn't he suit up or use a far more strategical approach and quickly dispose of the robbers who are clearly drunk or something?
Isn't it convenient that these fine Irish gentlemen just so happen to rob the same bank Matt is at? Is this the sole bank in NYC?
5.-Is Kim drunk?
6.-Why does Matt have a british accent all of the sudden? When and where was this foreshadowed in any season prior?
7.-How is it that the hostages don't immediately assume either Yusuf or Matt to be some sort of badasses? They descended with two armed robbers and came back without them AND with the object these thugs were looking for, did they assume the thieves were having tea time and couldn't be bothered to accompany Murdock and Khan?

Episode 6:
1.-Were the first dialogue bits more filler or did I miss how that moves the plot or develops characters?
2.-Why is Heather asking about masks, in a world with internet, anonymity and superheroes that hide behind masks, she can't possibly be the first human to wonder about this? It's supposed to be some sort of moment that works on its own and as an allegory or subtext of sorts (I think?) for Matt hiding his identity but the problem is that I don't think in such a world she can be the first psychiatrist to have asked this, can it be?
3.-Again, why does Kingpin all of the sudden not know a thing and relies on Queenpin explaining him everything, even how fundraisers work?

Over all:
1.-Why is there not that much catholicism in this season? Considering that is how Matt always deals with his problems, having him distance himself from his Christianity seems like he's a completely different character. You could say hence the name, "Born Again" but at this point you may as well rename the character because Daredevil and Christianity are intertwined. In six episodes we get one short (probably CGI) church scene and only two times we hear him pray. Again, where the hell is Maggie? Did I miss catholic references of sorts? Allegories to catholic themes?
2.-Heather, how can I take her as a serious character or a serious relationship? She's barely on the show, has the most dull chats with Matt and has zero chemistry, they literally get together after having an awfully superficial chat. I know Matt and Elektra weren't necessarily that deep from the start but they had chemistry and they were young so it was excusable, even with Claire he had more story and definitely a lot more with Karen, what did I miss?
3.-Why are politics handled like they were written for four year olds? The pothole scene exemplifies this.
4.-Why are so many, if not all, characters so mentally challenged so often?
5.-Why is Matt apparently looking to out himself as Daredevil or something?
6.-If Maya gave Kingpin a spiritual "procedure" of sorts to heal his trauma and at the beginning of this show he claims to be a changed man but then reveals that isn't true in the slightest, does that mean that Ayahuasca-induced-Chakra-aligning-Trauma-healing trips don't work (asking for a friend)?

You must be fun at parties

 

[kguillou]

You guys think we’ll see Bullseye return in these remaining 3 episodes?

 

[BoredGuy]

You guys think we’ll see Bullseye return in these remaining 3 episodes?

If the trailers are to be believed I'd say its a definite
Now whether he does anything, or its just a brief moment at the end of the finale showing him escaping prison, I dunno

 

[kguillou]

I feel like we have so much to wrap up in these remaining 3 eps. We’re just now getting Daredevil back in action, and theres a lot of plot threads going on in this show.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Next season really is just "part 2" of this season, right? I'd expect a lot of dangling threads to be picked up next season.

It really feels like they're setting Matt up to take over as the Kingpin at the end of this season, similar to Bendis's run. The amount of parallel shots between Matt and Fisk are really hammering that they're more similar to each other than they like to think.

And with Kingpin being the mayor, there's a gap to fill.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I feel like Season 2 is when this show will actually feel like there’s a vision behind it. While I’ve enjoyed *most* of these episodes, they feel so strewn together and tonally odd sometimes within the very same episode (episode 5 is just bizarre) that I fully can’t get lose myself with this series. There’s a ton of telling, not showing that I hope they fix.

You can see they did their best to salvage what they could but it’ll be nice to see them start fresh with a clearer vision/tone for Season 2 and not tied with what didn’t work originally.

 

[awezmo]

You must be fun at parties

Is that really the best you can do to answer?

 

[DyeLorean]

Questions:

Episode 1:
1.-Why does Bullseye go after such a complicated revenge against Matt instead of going after Kingpin?
2.-Why does Karen leave? Given she is not weak, doesn't run away from issues and doesn't just abandon those she cares about, as evidenced in previous seasons and during Punisher, why does she decide to just leave now when Matt needs her? Why was Matt unable to open up to her given how much character development he had in the previous seasons (in particular, season 3)?
3.-Why is Maggie nowhere to be seen?
4.-How is it that Vanessa is now Queenpin? What kind of off-screen character development happened and why am I supposed to just accept it as a viewer without ever getting to know what she went through exactly?
5.-How is the city voting for Kingpin with all of his history? Is Disney truly trying to make the audience buy this is how politics work and that's why the orange man got elected? (I know this was filmed way before it but this is Disney and they could've been referencing 2016).
6.-Why should I care about what the individuals BB chooses to interview have to say about the city? After all, she does seem to interview just about anyone who wants to speak, no matter if they have any valuable insight. This could have been shown through other ways like just literally showing what is happening instead of having someone tell you.
7.-What is the purpose of the weird guy that follows Fisk so blindly? He seems to have no personality besides following Wilson, is he a parody of something or someone? If so, does he somehow work as a character beyond a parody?

Episode 2:
1.-Why is Kingpin all of the sudden unable to understand anything about politics or people's interests without having someone explain it to him? It's not like with Wesley when he genuinely had some insight. Here, Kingpin seems genuinely clueless.
2.-Why does BB choose not to build up a conversation before getting confrontational? Why doesn't she ask more questions and instead explains the cop situation to Wilson? Is she supposed to be a bad reporter? I mean, she doesn't hold a candle to her uncle.
3.-Why does Wilson go to the funeral of a cop knowing they hate him? Why does he not realize that is a subpar move, especially for him?
4.-Why is the commissioner surprised when he gets blackmailed by Fisk after he himself tells him off in his face for being a corrupt piece of s**t (not his literal words)? Is he dumb?
5.-Why does Powell not shoot Hector in the head after he showed him his plaque? After all, he's corrupt and so is half the force and not to mention, for all everyone knows, Hector killed a cop, why doesn't he say it was in self-defense after a crazy guy assaulted him and his partner or some other lie? I thought that having a train behind him could've been an impediment but it's just a matter of ordering him to turn around, handcuff him, put him in the middle of the platform and if you're worrying about the autopsy report, these guys are the literal embodiment of corruption so it would have been swept under the rug. I mean, he could've gotten creative in many ways, why didn't he? Is Powell mentally challenged?
6.-Why does Matt not escape through the window with his witness? After all, it's not like he bought him any time, he just opens the door for them and they weren't trying to open it by force prior to that, so... Why? Was he looking for a fight? If so, why? Has he gone mad with the punching thirst?
How does Powell survive having his head being slammed against the f***ing ground?

Episode 3:
1.-Why are we supposed to believe Cherry is some sort of talented investigator when he finds the White Tiger costume in a box literally under the Ayala's bed?
2.-By the way, why of all places does Hector hide it under his bed? Isn't this guy suppose to conceal his identity from loved ones? Are you seriously telling me the wife never looks below the bed she sleeps?
3.-Also, why is Mcduffie a great lawyer? So far and during this whole court case she does f**k all. In a similar case with the Punisher in season two, Foggy is far more involved and we even see him argue in court. Here, she is just said to be a great lawyer, but we never *see* her being a great lawyer, why should we believe it?
4.-Why does the witness backpedal? His life was already in danger, why now? If he gets killed now, it's even more suspicious and far more public, was he not informed of this? If so, why? Isn't Matt used to handling these kinds of things? Especially with Nadeem and all he went through, I mean, why? Just why?
5.-The whole court case made me lose neurons, how in the world does it make sense in the slightest? And not from the sense of whether or not it has precedents in the real world but more in the sense of clever script writing by a billionaire company? I mean, it kind of looks like a parody of Better Call Saul.
6.-Why does it feel like Matt can't argue without losing his cool about vigilantism related cases? Where is Season 2 Matt who could do this to an extent whilst making sense?
7.-What is with the White Tiger costume? Did Matt and Cherry get to it first? Why doesn't either side that got to it first just conceal it? Matt should probably be empathetic towards Hector in his efforts to hide his identity, besides he was also in favor of avoiding this subject as he argued it had no relevance until his witness inexplicably backpedals causing him to go batsh*t insane and the cops wouldn't want anyone to know this man is actually a vigilante that saves lives anyway so, again, why don't they conceal this?
8.-Does anyone else feel that White Tiger gets severely underused? Did Kamar's condition and his passing had to do with him not featuring any more than two episodes? If so, what a shame.
9.-Also, why kill him in the same way that Deadpool kills Deadpool in that post-credit Deadpool 2 scene? I mean, couldn't you do it in a far more serious way? I don't know, maybe having watched both scenes has got to do with why I found it funny more so than tragic.

Episode 4:
1.-Why is Leroy a character? Am I suppose to know him from somewhere? What does he add to the plot? Why does it feel like Disney is trying to paint him with nuance only to ultimately fail at doing so? I mean, he steals, he insults Matt before and after he gets his sentence lowered and justifies stealing because he "wants something nice every now and then"? I am paraphrasing but it was something along those lines, I kind of understood that he's being treated unfairly by the police but I don't get any reason to root for him as he seems to be a guy that made his own luck, in other words, he got into everything he's being accused of. Also, why is his story relevant to the rest of the plot? What is so important?
2.-By the way, who is that lawyer Matt spends like five minutes talking to? Should I care about her? Why does Matt tell her what she had for breakfast because he smelled it and convinces her "it's a blind thing"? Like, if a blind man walks up to me and smells what I had for breakfast and tries to sell me every blind person can do that, I am either calling the cops, getting a restraining order or calling him a Doctor because that's a Strange condition (sorry).
3.-Is that it for Punisher? Was that his whole participation? Why in hell does he seem to not care at all about, I don't know... Punishing the cops using his badge as a gang sign?

Episode 5:
1.-Why does this episode exist?
2.-Why is it okay to throw publicity for another Disney show when it does nothing to move the plot or develop any character?
3.-Why does it feel like Money Heist (2017), only dumbed-down to mentally challenged levels?
4.-Why does Matt not just suit up in order to save the day? If you tell me that he was intending to persuade the bank into funding his law firm by doing this showing his face to the assistant whilst Daredevilin', I would say this is so not Matt, he wouldn't do this just for personal gain, not even a little. So why doesn't he suit up or use a far more strategical approach and quickly dispose of the robbers who are clearly drunk or something?
Isn't it convenient that these fine Irish gentlemen just so happen to rob the same bank Matt is at? Is this the sole bank in NYC?
5.-Is Kim drunk?
6.-Why does Matt have a british accent all of the sudden? When and where was this foreshadowed in any season prior?
7.-How is it that the hostages don't immediately assume either Yusuf or Matt to be some sort of badasses? They descended with two armed robbers and came back without them AND with the object these thugs were looking for, did they assume the thieves were having tea time and couldn't be bothered to accompany Murdock and Khan?

Episode 6:
1.-Were the first dialogue bits more filler or did I miss how that moves the plot or develops characters?
2.-Why is Heather asking about masks, in a world with internet, anonymity and superheroes that hide behind masks, she can't possibly be the first human to wonder about this? It's supposed to be some sort of moment that works on its own and as an allegory or subtext of sorts (I think?) for Matt hiding his identity but the problem is that I don't think in such a world she can be the first psychiatrist to have asked this, can it be?
3.-Again, why does Kingpin all of the sudden not know a thing and relies on Queenpin explaining him everything, even how fundraisers work?

Over all:
1.-Why is there not that much catholicism in this season? Considering that is how Matt always deals with his problems, having him distance himself from his Christianity seems like he's a completely different character. You could say hence the name, "Born Again" but at this point you may as well rename the character because Daredevil and Christianity are intertwined. In six episodes we get one short (probably CGI) church scene and only two times we hear him pray. Again, where the hell is Maggie? Did I miss catholic references of sorts? Allegories to catholic themes?
2.-Heather, how can I take her as a serious character or a serious relationship? She's barely on the show, has the most dull chats with Matt and has zero chemistry, they literally get together after having an awfully superficial chat. I know Matt and Elektra weren't necessarily that deep from the start but they had chemistry and they were young so it was excusable, even with Claire he had more story and definitely a lot more with Karen, what did I miss?
3.-Why are politics handled like they were written for four year olds? The pothole scene exemplifies this.
4.-Why are so many, if not all, characters so mentally challenged so often?
5.-Why is Matt apparently looking to out himself as Daredevil or something?
6.-If Maya gave Kingpin a spiritual "procedure" of sorts to heal his trauma and at the beginning of this show he claims to be a changed man but then reveals that isn't true in the slightest, does that mean that Ayahuasca-induced-Chakra-aligning-Trauma-healing trips don't work (asking for a friend)?

Out of respect, I read it all. All I can say is, stop thinking about it too much and try to enjoy it a little more. This isn't rocket science... it's about a blind lawyer dressed as a devil fighting crime. That's it.

 

[awezmo]

Out of respect, I read it all. All I can say is, stop thinking about it too much and try to enjoy it a little more. This isn't rocket science... it's about a blind lawyer dressed as a devil fighting crime. That's it.

This show was and should be more than just a blind lawyer dressed as a devil fighting crime, it's also about an catholic orphan who maintains hope and fights for justice in an unfair world, wouldn't you say this should be approached with emotional depth? Or should we just turn off our brains and consume whatever comes our way?
Besides, I could be wrong to criticize this show for I may have not understood the subtext but you either don't want or just can't explain that and that's a shame.
But if you think the only way to enjoy this show is if I turn off my brain because it is not supposed to make sense, then I am sorry for being under the impression this was a continuation of the Netflix show that, though it wasn't perfect, at least tried.
I forgot the memo that said Daredevil entered the MCU at the stage when they've neglected quality and expected their viewers to never once criticize what they do (kind of like a cult). Should've listened to Deadpool when he said it was at a low point. It is my own damn fault for not unsubscribing to this service earlier, you're right, I am stupid.

 

[DyeLorean]

This show was and should be more than just a blind lawyer dressed as a devil fighting crime, it's also about an catholic orphan who maintains hope and fights for justice in an unfair world, wouldn't you say this should be approached with emotional depth? Or should we just turn off our brains and consume whatever comes our way?
Besides, I could be wrong to criticize this show for I may have not understood the subtext but you either don't want or just can't explain that and that's a shame.
But if you think the only way to enjoy this show is if I turn off my brain because it is not supposed to make sense, then I am sorry for being under the impression this was a continuation of the Netflix show that, though it wasn't perfect, at least tried.
I forgot the memo that said Daredevil entered the MCU at the stage when they've neglected quality and expected their viewers to never once criticize what they do (kind of like a cult). Should've listened to Deadpool when he said it was at a low point. It is my own damn fault for not unsubscribing to this service earlier, you're right, I am stupid.

I never said you are stupid. The show indeed has more to say than a regular superhero series, but some if not most of the questions you ask are more in line with something like the "Everything wrong with... in 15 minutes or less" videos.

 

[awezmo]

You know what? I'm sorry, I got a bit too worked up about this because of how deeply I care for this show, Matt's story resonated with me a lot from the OG show and it doesn't feel good to see it being treated this way and I don't think anything justifies what they did this season. But I am taking it out on you and everyone else here.
By the way, you're right, it does sound like one of those videos. Halfway through writing those questions I kind of thought about it too.

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[DeadlyWest]

Is that really the best you can do to answer?

I work 12 hour shifts

I quite literally do not have the energy to fixate on every minute nitpick in cape**** anymore.

 

[awezmo]

I work 12 hour shifts

I quite literally do not have the energy to fixate on every minute nitpick in cape**** anymore.

Yeah, I was just trying to get a response, it's literally not necessary to give a good response to my original comment, I didn't put in on the right thread and didn't know how to read a room so it was misplaced. I do disagree that these are nitpicks, some of them are but most of them are giant plotholes. But it's fine. Sorry for that earlier provocation.

 

[BobJM]

If the trailers are to be believed I'd say its a definite
Now whether he does anything, or its just a brief moment at the end of the finale showing him escaping prison, I dunno

I assumed that clip from the mid-season trailer was a finale tease that would set things up for Season 2. Him holding his tooth in his mouth; my thought is that he's about to turn that into a weapon to escape.

Season 2 will be Bullseye and the revelation that Foggy is not dead

 

[Breogan]

Holy Heck!

Spoiler

I mean if anyone is still wondering where this is likely headed.
See the last panel, (could be without the more supernatural elements, though I wouldn't mind if they went there)
Not a spoiler, just speculation, but people complain.

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If the rumors about Season 2 are true...

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Then I really hope to see Danny Rand return in an actual comic-accurate costume as the Iron Fist.

I would love to see him back using a more comic accurate theme and mask, as well as Elodie Yung as Elektra, if they are tying the above to the Hand, it could all connect.

I only ever watched the last episode of Defenders, and even then skipping ahead, just to see how the Elektra narrative concluded, and fill in where DD found himself at the start of S3?
I feel like I might need to watch it.

 

[Breogan]

.Hot Toys 1:6 figure.

More pics.

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[Michael Frost]

Something about this show started to feel incredibly off past the Ayala trial arc. There's a bit of tonal whiplash going around and exposition dumps all over being done to characters in a tell rather than show fashion.

I think the whole Muse arc was handled a bit haphazardly - this guy is supposed to be a serial killer with 60+ victims yet no one in the show treats this with the severity nor the appropriate response, SPECIALLY on the police/city side. Meanwhile Daredevil learns about him in the laziest exposition dump ever and he instantly teleports to his lair and beats the **** out of him. I dunno, I'm able to piece together that he would probably be able to find him relatively fast but it would still make for better television to watch him investigating and getting to the solution? Instead it just feels incredibly rushed - not to mention the child actor flat out telling Matt that she was gonna go look for a serial killer and Matt not giving a damn up until he gets a phone call from her mom...

Muse seems like a rushed cookie cutter version of a serial killer too - he's a bit creepy but everything moves so fast that it's hard to get a feel for him as a character. Maybe I'm just spoiled because of procedural crime drama shows but I'm feeling like Muse would have received a completely different treatment under Netflix rather than now.

So far I'm half and half. The show started strong with a bold choice and it followed through naturally on its choices and felt like the Daredevil I know. But after that bottle episode at the bank it feels like we warped into a completely different show more close to the Hawkeye / Echo versions of what a MCU show is...

 

[kguillou]

I am very much enjoying this show but i have to agree its off. The pacing is all over the place. Some storylines, like Muse, are very rushed. There should have been an episode or two of build up where we actually saw Muse in his therapy sessions with Heather and saw Heather develop some kind of relaitonship with him. But theyre just telling us that Heather somehow unlocked someting within Muse, we never see this.

Also Matt and heather's relationshiop is also way rushed. it is nothing like the nice gradual progression of Matt and Karen. They now...live with each other and love each other all of a sudden?

Its so weird, this show both feels slow and way too fast at the same time. It hasnt found its rhythm. BUT Charlie and D'Onofrio still make it compelling to watch (Althoguh D'Onofrio feels off too sometimes)

 

[psylockolussus]

.Hot Toys 1:6 figure.

More pics.

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HotToys always look good!

I'm obsessed with them!

 

[BlackFox]

.Hot Toys 1:6 figure.

More pics.

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Question is, get this or wait for the black suit version with DDs. Decisions, decisions....