Sequels Marvel Studios' X-Men?

[CyclopsSummers]

Impossible to include mutantkind in MCU, it will be ridiculous to tell about mutants now whereas they exist since a long time. But F4 can be include in MCU!
I hope Fox wont release a F4 movie until 2023

 

[Havok83]

So why did you say they whitewash Sunspot?

Im only now seeing this and its bc Sunspot used to be an Afro-Brazilian with dark skin. In the last decade or so, he's been colored with far lighter skin

 

[Lord]

If the X-Men ever go back to Marvel Studios, what stories should they adapt? Should they try doing something with young Cyclops, Angel, Jean, Beast and Iceman like the comics originaly started as? Or should the characters already start as adults? The first Ultimate X-Men story arc seems like a good middle-ground to me.

It does make more sense for mutants to appear later in the timeline of the MCU rather than at the same time the other heroes were first appearing. This way, there's already some trauma when it comes to superpowered individuals, who seem to be being seen less like celebrities as time foes on.

 

[NotNickFury]

I imagine that, like getting someone young to play Spider-Man, even though Holland is already 20, I would think that Marvel would want to milk the X-Men as much as possible, so they'd probably go with the original five and go young with casting. But on the chance the mutants were introduced in the MCU, however convoluted that would be, I wager they would have to go older.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It does make more sense for mutants to appear later in the timeline of the MCU rather than at the same time the other heroes were first appearing. This way, there's already some trauma when it comes to superpowered individuals, who seem to be being seen less like celebrities as time foes on.

Not really it probably makes it harder by every film and tv series produced

Ain't marvel now making an Inhumans tv show? they clearly are not waiting for fox, they will do inhumans in the same manner as mutants and this current marvel universe is so packed that mutants would probably lost in the mix and may lose what makes them special since at this point they would need to go through medical tests just for anyone to determine whether they are gods, inhumans, aliens, mutants or given powers by other means like serums, magic or whatever.

 

[Havok83]

If the X-Men ever go back to Marvel Studios, what stories should they adapt? Should they try doing something with young Cyclops, Angel, Jean, Beast and Iceman like the comics originaly started as? Or should the characters already start as adults? The first Ultimate X-Men story arc seems like a good middle-ground to me.

Ultimate X-men v1 overall is a good basis for source material to adapt

 

[def28]

Not really it probably makes it harder by every film and tv series produced

Ain't marvel now making an Inhumans tv show? they clearly are not waiting for fox, they will do inhumans in the same manner as mutants and this current marvel universe is so packed that mutants would probably lost in the mix and may lose what makes them special since at this point they would need to go through medical tests just for anyone to determine whether they are gods, inhumans, aliens, mutants or given powers by other means like serums, magic or whatever.

Lost? What makes you think Marvel doesn't want X-Men money under their control?

On merchandising alone they would be making a ridiculous amount of money and that's enough to guarantee them not to get lost . They won't get anywhere near that level on Inhumans, especially now that Inhumans is only going to select theaters and TV. Marvel knows very well that characters like Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Rogue, Emma Frost, Magneto and Storm can sell far more then any Inhuman name. We are talking dozens of known names with already a guaranteed fanbase they can sell in droves when they push them into their world.

X-Mens character roster is far more marketable and valuable. Billions are to be made here. Heck, they can make that just off of Deadpool and Wolverine.

 

[Havok83]

Lost? What makes you think Marvel doesn't want X-Men money under their control?

On merchandising alone they would be making a ridiculous amount of money and that's enough to guarantee them not to get lost . They won't get anywhere near that level on Inhumans, especially now that humans is only going to select theaters and TV. Marvel knows very well that characters like Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey, Rogue, Emma Frost, Magneto and Storm can sell far more then any Inhuman name. We are talking dozens of known names with already a guarantee fanbase they can sell in droves when they push them into their world.

X-Mens character roster is far more marketable and valuable. Billions are to be made here.

THIS. Marvel has only dabbled with the Inhumans on SHIELD and havent even used the popular ones. If they got control of the X-men today, they'd likely kill ay plans for the Inhumans movie or tv series bc there is FAR more money to be made on the X-men especially with spinoff potential. The X-men are also a much easier franchise to sell considering they've been in the public eye for decades whereas Inhumans are still relatively new, never really branching outside of the comics until recently.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Lost? What makes you think Marvel doesn't want X-Men money under their control?

Just because marvel would be happy to get X-Men back doesn't mean they would fit in anymore easier in that universe at this time.

I never said marvel wouldn't happily have X-Men back but in general to fit mutants in this late in the game would be alot harder then you think when you already have gods, aliens, wizards, inhumans, robots having got their foot in first leaving the idea of mutants feeling less special if they ever suddenly appeared.

 

[GuestStar2004]

THIS. Marvel has only dabbled with the Inhumans on SHIELD and havent even used the popular ones.

Wasn't that because they were saving them? i know vin diesel kept teasing some involvement

If they got control of the X-men today, they'd likely kill ay plans for the Inhumans movie or tv series bc there is FAR more money to be made on the X-men especially with spinoff potential.

I am sure you are right if they had X-Men they wouldn't bother with inhumans but they don't have the X-Men so they are clearly moving on without them

 

[def28]

Just because marvel would be happy to get X-Men back doesn't mean they would fit in anymore easier.

I never said marvel wouldn't happily have X-Men back but in general to fit mutants in this late in the game would be alot harder then you think, its not easier to do it now when you already have gods,aliens,magic,inhumans,wizards, robots having got their foot in first it leaving mutants feeling less special

Deapdool won't sell to the GA, Sentinels can't work in Singers universe, Thor's world of magic won't work with Starks tech world, Wolverine will never be rated R etc. I've heard doubt before, and at this point I've seen it all work. As far as it working creatively, we won't know till it happens so to each their own opinions there.

But I do know this, there is no way that they would get lost. X-Men going to Marvel won't be some small thing. The X-Men property still hasn't been taken advantage of and there's a good reason for that, Fox doesn't know what they have and are still trying to figure it out. The difference with Marvel is that they know all of this, it's what their studio is based on.

THIS. Marvel has only dabbled with the Inhumans on SHIELD and havent even used the popular ones. If they got control of the X-men today, they'd likely kill ay plans for the Inhumans movie or tv series bc there is FAR more money to be made on the X-men especially with spinoff potential. The X-men are also a much easier franchise to sell considering they've been in the public eye for decades whereas Inhumans are still relatively new, never really branching outside of the comics until recently.

Exactly.

Main films, spinoffs, cartoons, tv shows, action figures, games and other merch etc. All this has already sold with Marvel and X-Men in the past. Marvel wouldn't let the X-Men go unnoticed when there's that much potential and they can fully benefit. They have been trying with Inhumans for awhile now. Not to say it can't be a very successful IP, I'm sure it will. But there's just no way it can match the power on what they have built with X-Men over the decades.

 

[Havok83]

Wasn't that because they were saving them? i know vin diesel kept teasing some involvement



I am sure you are right if they had X-Men they wouldn't bother with inhumans but they don't have the X-Men so they are clearly moving on without them

It doesnt matter. The point is, that its alot easier to disregard the irrelevant new Inhumans that have been introduced on SHIELD and push them aside for the X-men than had they already been in the middle of telling stories with the Royal Family

 

[GuestStar2004]

It doesnt matter. The point is, that its alot easier to disregard the irrelevant new Inhumans that have been introduced on SHIELD and push them aside for the X-men than had they already been in the middle of telling stories with the Royal Family

Well apparently the inhumans 2 episode pilot will be in over 1000 imax screens in 74 countries next year with the rest of the tv show following after on tv.

So you think with that effort they will just disregard inhumans?

 

[Havok83]

Well apparently the inhumans pilot 2 episodes will be in over 1000 imax screens in 74 countries next year with the tv show following after.

So you think with that effort they will just disregard inhumans?

A pilot that hasnt been filmed yet with minimal money spent on it....yeah.

 

[GuestStar2004]

A pilot that hasnt been filmed yet with minimal money spent on it....yeah.

I hear imax are paying for the first 2 episodes which is why ABC were able to green light such an expensive concept

 

[Havok83]

I hear imax are paying for the first 2 episodes which is why ABC were able to green light such an expensive concept

Okay? That doesnt mean they have to commit to an entire series when they can pull the plug in favor of something that has potential to be even more profitable

 

[Snikt]

Honestly, after seeing Doctor Strange, I can see the X-Men (as they exist in their own franchise) showing up in the MCU. We now know there are multiverses. So it could work

 

[def28]

Pretty much. There's a ton of options. Inhumans won't be appearing in the mainstream films anytime soon if at all, so even if the discovery of mutants happened in the films it won't feel like a carbon copy.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Feige was asked recently about X-Men coming to the MCU and he said

"It’s an impossibility at this juncture"

"We certainly have enough films to keep us busy for a number of lifetimes."

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2016/11...he-door-on-x-men-in-the-marvel-cinematic-uni/

 

[Stan Lee]

Pretty much. There's a ton of options. Inhumans won't be appearing in the mainstream films anytime soon if at all, so even if the discovery of mutants happened in the films it won't feel like a carbon copy.

It would feel like a carbon copy of the FOX films though.

 

[def28]

It would feel like a carbon copy of the FOX though.

Inhumans will? Or X-Men will seem like a rip off of X-Men? I'm not following.

Personally I don't think Inhumans and X-Men are similar enough for any significant amount of people to completely turn the other away. Inhumans are already out on the small screen and comics and then films like Fantatsic Beasts and Miss Perigrene among others have similar themes and allegories going on as X-men.

Bottom line is these characters are different, and different stories are to be told because of it. Can't replace Deadpool or Wolverine and they can't replace Cyclops, Rogue or Jean either. Again, the characters themselves are what gives X-Men their marketability, and that has been where Fox continues to drop the ball. Keep giving characters barely any lines or development, and new audiences will treat them as unimportant or audiences familiar will be disappointed.

What matters for both studios is how they portray said characters and if the script is any good. If Marvel got the X-Men themesleves right with a decent script, success will come from that.

 

[Stan Lee]

Inhumans will? Or X-Men will seem like a rip off of X-Men? I'm not following.

Personally I don't think Inhumans and X-Men are similar enough for any significant amount of people to completely turn the other away. Inhumans are already out on the small screen and comics and then films like Fantatsic Beasts and Miss Perigrene among others have similar themes and allegories going on as X-men.

Bottom line is these characters are different, and different stories are to be told because of it. Can't replace Deadpool or Wolverine and they can't replace Cyclops, Rogue or Jean either. Again, the characters themselves are what gives X-Men their marketability, and that has been where Fox continues to drop the ball. Keep giving characters barely any lines or development, and new audiences will treat them as unimportant or audiences familiar will be disappointed.

What matters for both studios is how they portray said characters and if the script is any good. If Marvel got the X-Men themesleves right with a decent script, success will come from that.

I'm just saying that the concept of mutant discovery has been played with by FOX and very recently. I think doing that again in the MCU so soon would scream The Amazing Spider-Man all over again.

X2 was great with handling characters not named Scott and Jean.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

X-men and mutantkind would never fit with MCU. And its too late

Just because marvel would be happy to get X-Men back doesn't mean they would fit in anymore easier in that universe at this time.

I never said marvel wouldn't happily have X-Men back but in general to fit mutants in this late in the game would be alot harder then you think when you already have gods, aliens, wizards, inhumans, robots having got their foot in first leaving the idea of mutants feeling less special if they ever suddenly appeared.

Agreed

 

[zenith16]

I don't know with all the other off shoots of humanity like the Eternals
(Homo immortalis)

History

The scope of this article is to discuss the history of the Eternals of Earth. For more information on other Eternal races please refer to the specific page for that race (Kree, Skrulls etc.)
Origins

During their First Host on Earth, one million years ago,[2] the Celestials collected the Wanderers,[14] a tribe of Homo erectus.[11]
Gammenon the Gatherer collected the ape-men and send them to Ziran the Tester who mutated them to have an unstable genome, creating the Deviants[10] (Homo descendus),[15] a race with various mutations, who were then released and went hiding in the caves.With other subjects, Nezarr the Calculator then created the Eternals[10] (Homo immortalis),[2] hairless, upright tall beings able to tap into the cosmic power. They were themselves released, flying out of the Celestials' laboratory-ship. Finally, Oneg the Prober created a latent gene for the expansion of human potential.[10]

The point is marvel created alot "off shoot's of humanity" from time stan lee and jack kurby were around starting from the eternals as humanity's first off shoots and later mutates and mutants came around and there the Lemurian's all from the Celestial's.

and the inhuman's from the kree messing with humanity after them .

the details are below in this link as well.

>>>Humans <<<
in the guise of the Black Plague. In Crimea, the Proto-Mutants, the offshoot of humanity in which the X-Gene first evolved were massacred by superstitious


This is not hard to do and too many people over think this, When Marvel them selves solved the problem a while ago. there other off shoot's Just show em all.

in the MU. I do think (mutants)they'd fit in. it part of the universe and I have never liked exclusion. and I don't think they'd lose their uniqueness ether side with marvel likely to bring the Atlantis And the Atlantenes after the paper are clear. this doesn't make sense to exclude them

be side it was the celestials that made the other off of humanity in marvel from the time jack kurby was around. The mutants should be apart of that it's their origin.

 

[FVD]

If the X-Men ever go back to Marvel Studios, what stories should they adapt? Should they try doing something with young Cyclops, Angel, Jean, Beast and Iceman like the comics originaly started as? Or should the characters already start as adults? The first Ultimate X-Men story arc seems like a good middle-ground to me.

It does make more sense for mutants to appear later in the timeline of the MCU rather than at the same time the other heroes were first appearing. This way, there's already some trauma when it comes to superpowered individuals, who seem to be being seen less like celebrities as time foes on.

What I would like to see is the REAL origin story of Charles Xavier, actually coming from NY and establish his relationship with his stepbrother Cain Marko (Juggernaut), have a section of the story with his time at Oxford where he meets Moira and then you can also introduce Magneto later in that film. I do think it would be a good way to give Juggernaut some character development as well. And following that film, we could see Xavier form his school and introduce the Original 5 as his first students. Something of an Easter Egg.

Or how about the possibility of Magneto having an origin film like Xavier and maybe release them in the same year? Maybe he'd simply cameo in the Xavier film and vice versa. Now I'm not too concerned about any future Wolverine films as I'd rather see him appear as an ensemble character somewhere going into the future. And of course, I wish to see this happen in the MCU as well. Charles Xavier, along with Logan and Magneto deserve to be in the MCU as much as the F4. And I also like the dynamic of the idea of Xavier being inspired by MLK while Magneto is more of a Malcolm X type. Only problem I have with Magneto though is how he was a Holocaust survivor, and thus would be far too old to exist in the current timeline, so maybe they'll have to take a few liberties with regards to his origin.