Sequels Marvel Studios' X-Men?

[marvelrobbins]

i am pretty certain there will be another X-Men movie by 2019.

I am not as certain as that.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I am not as certain as that.

Don't see why not.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Don't see why not.

because even though first class and the wolverine were less successful WW than Apocalypse we heard about sequels to them sooner.we heard practuly nothing on another X-men film.

now this may change during promation of logan in february/march.Kinberg is
almost certinly going to be doing interviews for logan and will be asked
staus report on franchise other films.

 

[GuestStar2004]

because even though first class and the wolverine were less successful WW than Apocalypse we heard about sequels to them sooner.we heard practuly nothing on another X-men film.

We are barely hearing anything about any of the films anyway so when we end ip having to guess what films are being released when and where its clear we ain't getting loads of information in general about whats going on.

 

[DrCosmic]

The X-Men are not and have never been suited to film. They are a science fiction soap opera, with a wide, wide cast of characters, the top 50 of which are as capable of carrying a movie as Deadpool, and their expanded mythos is much better suited to weekly viewing. I can see there being a Wolverine movie series, or even a Magneto one, but the X-Men, by and large, need a lot more room to stretch than any movie can give. The fact that X-Men fans can have a list of their 20 favorite X-Men, and still exclude a vast array of really cool X-Men characters says all there needs to be said about how best to adapt this, and hint: it's not as another Xavier/Magneto bro-mance with a Wolvie angst fest. The latest films have subbed in Mystique trying to figure out who she is for all this, but in the end, it's kind of the same movie, over and over.

If the MCU had this right, they'd take X-Men and make it, essentially Heroes meets The Blacklist meets Once Upon a Time. Of course, they'd have to get their network TV division together, and who knows when/how that will happen.

 

[Stan Lee]

@DrCosmic

The Xavier/Magneto bromance didn't really take center stage until First Class. In the first trilogy there wasn't much interaction between the two due to Xavier getting taken out of the picture. Even in Apocalypse they didn't interact much. I would agree that they were Wolverine-led film though.

 

[DrCosmic]

That's true, the first trilogy was Wolvie-fest with Bro-mance on the side, whereas this most recent series is the other way around. Still, the bro-mance was more impactful, and integral to the films' plots than, say, Rogue's character arc, or whatever else in the film may have passed for development - even if it had more screen time, what we remember is the two playing Chess, that Erik "told him everything," to the point that when the DOFP future is coming to a head, it's Charles and Erik talking about their stupid feud, not Rogue realizing her true potential or anything, because the bro-mance was a bigger feature in the OT than anything BUT Wolvie Angst. It might have been the *only* thing that carried through all three films except for Wolvie Angst, and it's certainly the only thing present throughout the whole series.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Did I really say his arc was strong? I don't remember.

You said:
"Mystique wasn't anymore important" [than Beast].

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the way you've been defending any complaints against Mystique I would think you thought her arc was strong?

Otherwise wth are you even doing?

Obviously the way Hank was in FC moving forward was his arc, the comics will take a back step to that.

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here..

 

[GuestStar2004]

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here..

Because he is an X-Man in the comics doesn't give him special treatment for the movies basically.

 

[psylockolussus]

*Watches X3*

 

[GuestStar2004]

*Watches X3*

Why would you do that to yourself!

 

[EnDz0n3]

Because he is an X-Man in the comics doesn't give him special treatment for the movies basically.

I'm sorry that I want actual X-men characters to star in a movie called X-men. What was I thinking?

Sure let them shoehorn in a character that barely talked to Xavier in the previous trilogy to be his sister so she can be just as important! (See this doesn't even have anything to do with the comics, it's their own friggin continuity!)

 

[GuestStar2004]

I'm sorry that I want actual X-men characters to star in a movie called X-men. What was I thinking?

Sure let them shoehorn in a character that barely talked to Xavier in the previous trilogy to be his sister so she can be just as important! (See this doesn't even have anything to do with the comics, it's their own friggin continuity!)

Well boo hoo.

 

[DavidHaller]

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[DavidHaller]

Well boo hoo.

EXACTLY my affective response...

 

[marvelrobbins]

while i am not exactly fan of mystique in first class trilogy her major role in what started off as prequel trilogy was because she was one of only characters who could be with xavier and magneto when they were young.same as beast.now it's valid to critze that decsion but that is why it was made.

 

[DavidHaller]

I do not care what their reason may have been in the first place but I care about the great character arc for a female character that came out of it.

Mystique was transformed from being a silent, sexy henchwoman-badass for action scenes into a fully-developed, round character. And that's a problem why exactly? They even made an enitre movie about it (DoFP) to explain why Mystique followed a very different path in the new trilogy.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Well boo hoo.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

EXACTLY my affective response...

Sounds about right from you two. LOL

 

[marvelrobbins]

I do not care what their reason may have been in the first place but I care about the great character arc for a female character that came out of it.

Mystique was transformed from being a silent, sexy henchwoman-badass for action scenes into a fully-developed, round character. They even made an enitre movie about it (DoFP) to explain why Mystique followed a very different path in the new trilogy.

I don't practally like this version of mystique but they had every right to do it.and it helps to counter arguement X-Men doesn't do anything with female characters.

 

[EnDz0n3]

They had every right to do it? So with that way of thinking, Storm is in desperate need of character development and more lines.

So in the next trilogy, they should reveal that Storm is Quicksilver's twin sister. They have the same hair color, you guys!!! And being Magneto's daughter will guarantee her more screen time than even Halle Berry could've ever imagined!

This will transform her from a mostly silent, sexy badass for action scenes into a fully-developed, round character.

Ridiculous.

 

[marvelrobbins]

They had every right to do it? So with that way of thinking, Storm is in desperate need of character development and more lines.

So in the next trilogy, they should reveal that Storm is Quicksilver's twin sister. They have the same hair color, you guys!!! And being Magneto's daughter will guarantee her more screen time than even Halle Berry could've ever imagined!

This will transform her from a mostly silent, sexy badass for action scenes into a fully-developed, round character.

Ridiculous.

assuming there is another full X-Men film anytime soon,which isn't a given,they don't have to resort what they did with first class.mystique and beast were only options to appear with young xavier and magneto from original trilogy.

next time there is full X-Men film may even be when some get their wish and get a reboot though they may not like it if it's done by fox and not disney.

I may not practully like mystique in fc trilogy but i understand why as far as first class why the decsion was made.unfortully the other 2 films got influenced when lawrence explored because of hungar games.

 

[DavidHaller]

They had every right to do it? So with that way of thinking, Storm is in desperate need of character development and more lines.

So in the next trilogy, they should reveal that Storm is Quicksilver's twin sister. They have the same hair color, you guys!!! And being Magneto's daughter will guarantee her more screen time than even Halle Berry could've ever imagined!

This will transform her from a mostly silent, sexy badass for action scenes into a fully-developed, round character.

Ridiculous.

there is nothing ridiculous about it. If they feel the need to do it from a creative standpoint they should totally go for it. It was the right decision to combine the lives of Xavier with Mystique because it gave us "Days of Future Past"'s very compelling conflict. What would this movie be without the characters of Mystique and Xavier and the history of their relationship?! It is also wonderfully explained in this movie why Mystique would never turn into the old version we knew from X1-X3. I still do not see negatives for the decision to make Mystique Xavier's sister.

I agree that Storm should be centered!! 100 %! But I find it very unnecessary to play off Mystique against Storm in your argument. There should be space for both female characters to get developed further. And it is not Mystique's fault that Storm was not part of a trilogy where her character was not even born yet...

The decision to make Mystique a character with depth was definitely the right angle to go! It NEVER felt shoehorned in.

Your argument is only based on one thing: "I do not like that it is different in the comic books." Nothing is like the comic books. Every movie changes everything and interprets the source material totally new. It is entirely selective why fans are getting angry because of certain changes and totally overlook others.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

it helps to counter arguement X-Men doesn't do anything with female characters.

No it means FoX chooses stars over the characters

 

[EnDz0n3]

there is nothing ridiculous about it.

I can already picture your fellow-defenders backing away from you.

If they feel the need to do it from a creative standpoint they should totally go for it. It was the right decision to combine the lives of Xavier with Mystique because it gave us "Days of Future Past"'s very compelling conflict. What would this movie be without the characters of Mystique and Xavier and the history of their relationship?! It is also wonderfully explained in this movie why Mystique would never turn into the old version we knew from X1-X3.

I agree that Storm should be centered!! 100 % agree. But I find it very unnecessary to play off Mystique against Storm in your argument. There should be space for both female characters to get developed further.

Wait are you *for* turning Storm into Quicksilver's twin or are you against it? You're all over the place in your post.

And it is not Mystique's fault that Storm was not part of a trilogy where her character was not even born yet.

Tell that to the director and/or studio that shoehorned in a cameo by Storm (and Cyclops) in First Class.

The decision to make Mystique a character with depth was definitely the right angle to go! Your argument is only based on one thing: "I do not like that it is different in the comic books." Nothing is like the comic books. Every movie changes everything and interprets the source material totally new.

*leans into microphone* Wrong.

Stryker as head of Weapon X is not from the comics but you don't hear me (or most fans) being against that. Or how Rogue practically played Kitty Pryde in X-men. Or how Phoenix came about in X2 and Apocalypse. I can go on.

X2 is one of my favorite movies, along with X-men and plenty of the goings-on in those films don't line up with the funny books.

It is entirely selective why fans are getting angry because of certain changes and totally oversee others.

Oversee?

 

[DavidHaller]

I don't see any arguments in your post why it is a problematic that Mystique has been turned into Xavier's sister. Sorry, I do not know how to respond to this. I do not understand why Mystique's characterization and development from First Class to Days of Future Past is not compelling to you?

I do not think we have anything to say to each other to be honest...I more and more question why I am even here in this forum. These discussions are so utterly useless. Unfortunately, there is only a handful of people here who know how to interpret a movie.

p.s. overlook