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[Wolvieboy17]

Totally, but I don't think you can point to any two people and say "caps based on him and Iron man is based on him". Its more the political climate at the time, and a general political statement on a particular government, rather than individual pollies.

 

[BlackLantern]

I think the CW showed that what Tony wanted WAS right. The whole thing wasn't completely one sided in favour of the anti reg forces.

But it was just the way Tony and Reed went about things, Reed in particular, left a bad taste in my mouth. Coz Stark has always been a bit of a *****e but Reed just turned into one over night.

Reed just let his logic side completely take over....from a purely logical,rational standpoint...registration was the proper course of action

I didn't hate Civil War as much as others, but I actually did like some of the themes

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I liked CW for it's themes and ideas. Just in some instances thought the execution was a bit lacking.

I mean yea Reed looked at it from a completely logical standpoint. In fact didn't he do a equation that resulted in the world ending? And then by adding the registration act to the equation the world didn't end? Something ridiculous like that anyway.

But still, completely ****ing off the love of his life?

 

[zenith16]

That's what came about later, but other writers at the beginning said other wise . but at the end it became about that as millar said.

but they were showcaseing two views and what was going on with the divide in the states at the time and man people were really heated at that time . this was sorta done as a wake up call in a way . to get those people to stop acting that way in a way. Well the ones fighting on the streets(people that knew each other and friends too) pro and anti for what was going on. and those tv personalitys that were fighting on their talk shows as well. that's who cap and iron man were mirroring here. those people got nasty.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Lol Zenith, I know you have keyboard problems and you edit your posts later, but its still really confusing to read a jumbled post and have to wait for the finished version lol.

Reed in Civil War was basically just Richard Impossible from Venture Bros.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Heh yea he was a over the top, borderline satirical version of himself.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I was just waiting for him to say to Sue "Silly wife, womens mouths are for kissing, not talking!"

 

[BlackLantern]

Yea I liked CW for it's themes and ideas. Just in some instances thought the execution was a bit lacking.

I mean yea Reed looked at it from a completely logical standpoint. In fact didn't he do a equation that resulted in the world ending? And then by adding the registration act to the equation the world didn't end? Something ridiculous like that anyway.

But still, completely ****ing off the love of his life?

that was done to really illustrate how the issue divided everyone in the Marvel U....Reed has always been a "big picture" type of guy

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but I still think it's against character.

He wouldn't just go...

"Ahh well Sue, what I'm doing is right, what you are doing is wrong. Good bye"

And just kiss his marriage good bye like that. Just didn't sit right with me.

Plus the whole Clor thing.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

How come all the scientists in the Marvel U have the same tendencies? Not all scientists are completely detatched from humanity lol

 

[Wolvieboy17]

He wouldn't just go...

"Ahh well Sue, what I'm doing is right, what you are doing is wrong. Good bye"

And just kiss his marriage good bye like that. Just didn't sit right with me.

I totally agree. I thought Susan was always the one thing that anchored Reed, and kept him from drifting off into his own world, so it seemed strange that all of a sudden her opinion meant nothing to him.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea exactly, Sue always kept him grounded. Throughout bigger threats than the Civil War.

But it was a major plot point, it had to happen, whether it made sense or not.

Sorta the same way Wolverine can hold his own against the likes of Hulk or Thor. Doesn't make a damn bit of sense, but the powers that be want it that way, so it will be that way.

 

[BlackLantern]

Yea but I still think it's against character.

He wouldn't just go...

"Ahh well Sue, what I'm doing is right, what you are doing is wrong. Good bye"

And just kiss his marriage good bye like that. Just didn't sit right with me.

Plus the whole Clor thing.

she's the one who left....and snuck out in the middle of the night after giving Reed a pity ****....let's not saddle Reed with all the blame here OK??

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I dunno, thats what I like about Wolverine... The strongest thing about him is his will to survive and not give up. The best kind of Wolverine fight is the one where he gets ten kinds of S**t kicked out of him, and he still picks himself up and gives them a big f*** you... He probably would say bub at some point as well.

 

[Nathan]

Sorta the same way Wolverine can hold his own against the likes of Hulk or Thor. Doesn't make a damn bit of sense, but the powers that be want it that way, so it will be that way.

This is always funny. He's been knocked out by weaker guys before, but he gets back up from the punches by the Hulk.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Btw, woo post number 300

 

[Ace of Knaves]

she's the one who left....and snuck out in the middle of the night after giving Reed a pity ****....let's not saddle Reed with all the blame here OK??

C'mon, who wouldn't want a pity **** from her!

Na but I get what you are saying. It's not ALL Reed's fault.

But like I said, it just didn't sit right with me that after all these years, all these insane, universe threatening situations the F4 have been in, Reed finally decides to completely ignore his wife over the CW?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I dunno, thats what I like about Wolverine... The strongest thing about him is his will to survive and not give up. The best kind of Wolverine fight is the one where he gets ten kinds of S**t kicked out of him, and he still picks himself up and gives them a big f*** you... He probably would say bub at some point as well.

Yea but honestly, Thor or Hulk are on a completely different level. He shouldn't be able to hold is ground against them.

I mean in the Hulk vs DVD Thor got his ass kicked by Hulk, but Wolverine put up a decent fight. That makes zero sense. It's just the powers that be wanting Wolverine to be a bad ass, whether it makes sense or not.

Not that I don't like Wolverine, coz I do. But when stupid things happen, it's annoying.

This is always funny. He's been knocked out by weaker guys before, but he gets back up from the punches by the Hulk.

Exactly.

Btw, woo post number 300

Congrats, you can have a avvy now.

 

[BlackLantern]

Thematically I did like what was put across...that with all these costumed heroes running about, the government isn't going to be passive about it for too long....they are going to want some accountability from somewhere

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yes the whole concept of the registration and civil war was good, and to be honest, inevitable.

There was always gonna be a story about that somewhere along the line.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

No Cap agreed with the registration and training of heroes.

What pissed off Cap was them having to reveal their true identities. Look at Spider-Man. He revealed his identity and Aunt May got shot. That is what Cap's whole argument was about. By them revealing their identities their families and loved ones would be targeted by the villains.

And Cap and Tony did meet up one to one for a chat. In the ruined Avengers Mansion if I remember correctly. Think it was in one of Iron Mans books.

Cap didn't agree with registration. He was worried the government would appoint who the bad guys were, and make them fight people who they normally wouldn't. And then jumped out of a helicarrier.

it had alot to do with that and what was going with the Iraq war and other stuff with the united states Patriot Act which was a privacy issue and is a civil liberties issue

which kinda brought this out it was said by the marvel writers on tv in north America in certain places after all this was really just about every where you turned the channel and listened to the radio. there were wire taps and all going on. false reason for the war. I'll post some of this
that have been caught and are in major trouble cause of act's like that like what took place with the .FBI Illegally Used Patriot Act, Audit.
link to the story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/09/politics/main2551665.shtml?source=search_storyAnd

and video.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=255

or what dick Cheney and his people did to Valerie Plame a CIA Agent doing her job and telling the truth and not rebranding things so the war can take place for fake reasons as you know he wanted.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/28/60minutes/main994753_page2.shtml.

and more importantly this link

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/13/politics/main1802721.shtml?source=search_story

but there was better stuff i was looking for. but when you look at this and the actions tony did their similar. But I have better stuff that I'm really looking for actually.

Actually, their actions weren't that similar at all.

Yea I liked CW for it's themes and ideas. Just in some instances thought the execution was a bit lacking.

I mean yea Reed looked at it from a completely logical standpoint. In fact didn't he do a equation that resulted in the world ending? And then by adding the registration act to the equation the world didn't end? Something ridiculous like that anyway.

But still, completely ****ing off the love of his life?

It was an equation he revealed before the SHRA hit, and he was explaining to his wife that within a decade, they'd annihilate all life on Earth with escalating superhuman conflicts.

How come all the scientists in the Marvel U have the same tendencies? Not all scientists are completely detatched from humanity lol

They're all big picture people. That sort of stuff requires degrees of detatchment. All leadership does, actually.

I dunno, thats what I like about Wolverine... The strongest thing about him is his will to survive and not give up. The best kind of Wolverine fight is the one where he gets ten kinds of S**t kicked out of him, and he still picks himself up and gives them a big f*** you... He probably would say bub at some point as well.

But that also makes him silly.

 

[BlackLantern]

They're all big picture people. That sort of stuff requires degrees of detatchment. All leadership does, actually.

agreed

 

[zenith16]

Totally, but I don't think you can point to any two people and say "caps based on him and Iron man is based on him". Its more the political climate at the time, and a general political statement on a particular government, rather than individual pollies.

no no
they were taking this from what they saw with a number of people arguing on those new casts and show and events. like that stupid b*tch Elisabeth hallselbeck on the view and any arguing with her and that Toby Keith guy and any one arguing with him and what was shown on news cast such brawls on ABC news over the issue, i mentioned. and between several people that knew each in several places.

That's what the hostility with cap and iron man was and was representing. it was that focused through them. it's not necessary that specific. it's all the general crap that wouldn't end at that time. and was all over the news. cause alot of people were acting nuts.

marvel saw all that and decided to play with it through those characters.

But what ever, I don't feel like looking for those videos cause there's too much to look through. if i had bothered to book mark those videos it would be easy to find . but the thing is lol would i really want to keep that crap? some of it was funny and depressing. But it's not worth it. especially remembering the damn news reports by name. sheesh.


and mistress gluon I call tony staging an event using super villains to support his cause and trick peter and the senate the same as what was done to that C.i.A agent that state there was no need for the war. that was done to make sure an agenda was pushed to get what Cheney wanted and so he can claim he was protecting his country and tony was pushing an agenda to get what he wanted as well.

them both being under handed there in how they got whatthey wanted with those methods. the other civil liberties are another thing as well there was the whole issue with the NSA listening in to phone calls state wise and bush wanting there to be a law to allow for it.

but i don't have the time for it now. I have to go. Later.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

A very very very long shot I know but I want to be able to form a Guardians of the Galaxy team in the next one. Controlling a big ass gun carrying anthropomorphic badass raccoon throughout stages is a life long dream of mine.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd love that. Rocket, Star-Lord, Warlock, and Gamora or Drax would be a solid Guardians team.