The Defenders Marvel Working With Netflix and ABC on Additional Series.

[TheVileOne]

The Marvel's Most Wanted spin-off was a bad idea anyway. We didn't need another Marvel spy spin-off.

 

[Dasher10]

The Marvel's Most Wanted spin-off was a bad idea anyway. We didn't need another Marvel spy spin-off.

No, we kind of do if it's Shang Chi.

 

[TheVileOne]

No, we kind of do if it's Shang Chi.

You don't think spy show when you think of Shang-Chi. Most Wanted would've just been Agents of SHIELD lite when we need Marvel shows with different characters and different styles.

No one was interested in a Bobbi and Hunter SHIELD spin-off. It wasn't a good idea.

 

[Dasher10]

You don't think spy show when you think of Shang-Chi. Most Wanted would've just been Agents of SHIELD lite when we need Marvel shows with different characters and different styles.

No one was interested in a Bobbi and Hunter SHIELD spin-off. It wasn't a good idea.

I'll agree to that. If Marvel do a Shang-Chi series, I want it to be about a SHIELD agent but with the martial arts action of Captain America, Iron Fist and Daredevil. Set it entirely in Hong Kong to differentiate it from other series.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'll agree to that. If Marvel do a Shang-Chi series, I want it to be about a SHIELD agent but with the martial arts action of Captain America, Iron Fist and Daredevil. Set it entirely in Hong Kong to differentiate it from other series.

Making Shang-Chi a SHIELD agent makes no sense. He shouldn't have any connection to SHIELD or that world.

 

[metaphysician]

Making Shang-Chi a SHIELD agent makes no sense. He shouldn't have any connection to SHIELD or that world.

Why not? More often than not, he's worked as a spy. Just a spy who happens to have superhuman kung fu and an immortal chinese mastermind as a dad.

 

[TheVileOne]

Why would he join SHIELD?

 

[metaphysician]

Because SHIELD used to be the preeminent spy agency dealing with weirdness? I mean, *now* it would be weird, since SHIELD is quasi-defunct, sure. No reason he couldn't just be a part of MI6 instead.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Daughter's of the Dragon Series (Claire, Misty, Colleen)

Moon Knight Series would be amazing

 

[Dasher10]

Because SHIELD used to be the preeminent spy agency dealing with weirdness? I mean, *now* it would be weird, since SHIELD is quasi-defunct, sure. No reason he couldn't just be a part of MI6 instead.

Because Hong Kong is no longer part of Britain and Chinese intelligence would make him come across as unsympathetic to Western audiences. SHIELD is the best way to handle it.

 

[DrCosmic]

Thoughts

Blade - Agree you definitely can't have a widespread vampire society unless they are *very* reclusive. Dr. Strange is basically a master class on how to retcon a secret society into an existing universe of problem-stoppers. Something about blood farms in Eastern Europe and the return of Dracula to bring back 'real' vampirism or something like that would be fine.

Moon Knight - I know he's a lot of favorites, but I don't actually like this character, and aside from his very unique mindscape, I don't think he's different enough from Daredevil to warrant his own series, would rather he be the 'Punisher' of DD Season 3 or Punisher Season 2.

Daughters of the Dragon - They're just so awesome. Their lives are so tied with the other Heroes for Hire, it seems like a better deal to just let them crossover and around freely together.

DD Supporting cast members e.g. Echo, Elektra, etc - Run their stories in DD. I think he needs the help.

Ghost Rider - Agree he's too expensive for a TV show, but how about using him as a part of the Blade show? Blade vs Ghost Rider leading to the Midnight Sons would be really really awesome for me personally.

Spider-Woman - Too close to the other Jessica who is a private detective. Make her supporting cast in Captain Marvel and let it go.

White Tiger - Heard this rumor, would like to see, this attempted.

Shang Chi - He's awesome. Works better as Iron Fist supporting cast due to the synergy there. If he's super popular Punisher style, spin him off.

Thunderbolts - If you can't do Ghost Rider, I don't think you can do Thunderbolts. If you could however, it'd be brilliant. If you could bring back the villains from the MCU in the process, it'd be even more brilliant.

 

[Dark Raven]

I disagree that Spider-Woman is too similar to Jessica Jones. It's only if they adopt the PI angle. But Jessica Drew wasn't that at the start of her comic run. She delved far more into the supernatural. I would see it much more like the Angel TV series spun off from Buffy. That's always seemed like a good template for Spider-Woman where she fought supernatural foes like the Brothers Grimm, Hangman, Morgana Le Fay, Gypsy Moth, Nekra etc. The end of her run was also back to that feel.

I feel like she would be a waste as a supporting character in Captain Marvel, especially if she's just made into another Trish Walker.

And her personality is completely different to Jessica Jones, so it wouldn't be just duplicating that.

 

[TheVileOne]

Thunderbolts are better suited as a movie franchise.

 

[pixen]

Moon Knight would work on TV and his mental issues would be a new thing not seen in the cinematic/tv side of comic shows (Outside of Legion...).

I do think Elektra could have a decent series/miniseries if it was handled properly. Comic wise, she's in the same vein as Punisher but the yin to his yang. He kills the bad and she get's paid to kill whoever. Both work more off their supporting cast than they do alone as they are more quiet than your typical lead hero. Elodie brings some electricity to the character and it'd be fun to see that be used in a miniseries loosely inspired by Elektra: Assassin.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Moon Knight would be a great Netflix series, though I agree that he could easily pop up in Daredevil or Punisher. I think I'd rather he show up in Punisher. I'd worry that if he showed up in Daredevil it'd be a retread of some of the ground they covered with Season 2.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Moon Knight would also likely take it out of New York, which would be a change of pace.

 

[TheVileOne]

Moon Knight could still easily be set in New York if they want.

But Moon Knight they could really exploit the idea that they have a character who is a lot like Batman but way more unhinged.

 

[Dark Raven]

Moon Knight could still easily be set in New York if they want.

But Moon Knight they could really exploit the idea that they have a character who is a lot like Batman but way more unhinged.

I don't know about that.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Moon Knight could still easily be set in New York if they want.

But Moon Knight they could really exploit the idea that they have a character who is a lot like Batman but way more unhinged.

It could, but I think it would be a strength if it didn't. Certainly, his origin wouldn't be in New York. Unlike Iron Fist (which I think would rely on fairly claustrophobic flashbacks inside a monastery, based on the trailers and interviews), I think Moon Knight would do well to look like it's genuinely set in Egypt or the Sudan or something like that. He's a mercenary, give it an international feel.

I doubt Netflix wants to bite off more than they can chew, but I would love two Netflix teams. Defenders in New York and Midnight Sons elsewhere (solo series for Moon Knight, Blade, and Robbie Reyes's Ghost Rider). The latter, of course, would embrace the supernatural.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Moon Knight could still easily be set in New York if they want.

But Moon Knight they could really exploit the idea that they have a character who is a lot like Batman but way more unhinged.

Moon Knight & Punisher should team up

 

[Dark Raven]

Moon Knight probably wouldn't even wear his costume until the last 15 minutes of episode 13, and then he'd probably only have his hood. And everyone will say they don't mind as long as it's good characterisation (which you can always get in a non-comic show).

 

[pixen]

Moon Knight probably wouldn't even wear his costume until the last 15 minutes of episode 13, and then he'd probably only have his hood. And everyone will say they don't mind as long as it's good characterisation (which you can always get in a non-comic show).

i don't get how this is a problem. It's called developing a character and the character needs to earn the costume. You could have them get it in the first episode but then the payoff wouldn't be as great as it would be in the latter half of the season. I get fanboys want their hero in their full uniform right away but with all the Netflix shows, the slower buildups work best.

 

[Dasher10]

Thoughts

Blade - Agree you definitely can't have a widespread vampire society unless they are *very* reclusive. Dr. Strange is basically a master class on how to retcon a secret society into an existing universe of problem-stoppers. Something about blood farms in Eastern Europe and the return of Dracula to bring back 'real' vampirism or something like that would be fine.

Moon Knight - I know he's a lot of favorites, but I don't actually like this character, and aside from his very unique mindscape, I don't think he's different enough from Daredevil to warrant his own series, would rather he be the 'Punisher' of DD Season 3 or Punisher Season 2.

Daughters of the Dragon - They're just so awesome. Their lives are so tied with the other Heroes for Hire, it seems like a better deal to just let them crossover and around freely together.

DD Supporting cast members e.g. Echo, Elektra, etc - Run their stories in DD. I think he needs the help.

Ghost Rider - Agree he's too expensive for a TV show, but how about using him as a part of the Blade show? Blade vs Ghost Rider leading to the Midnight Sons would be really really awesome for me personally.

Spider-Woman - Too close to the other Jessica who is a private detective. Make her supporting cast in Captain Marvel and let it go.

White Tiger - Heard this rumor, would like to see, this attempted.

Shang Chi - He's awesome. Works better as Iron Fist supporting cast due to the synergy there. If he's super popular Punisher style, spin him off.

Thunderbolts - If you can't do Ghost Rider, I don't think you can do Thunderbolts. If you could however, it'd be brilliant. If you could bring back the villains from the MCU in the process, it'd be even more brilliant.

My thoughts

Blade - Blade is perfectly doable since it would be set in New Orleans and thus wouldn't overlap with the production of the New York shows. Luke Cage can't be the only black guy with his own show and the story of a black immigrant from the UK living in the Deep South is a story worth telling since it's a unique perspective that we don't see much of. And Blade has an incredible supporting cast which makes him a great fit for TV, plus Dracula is one of Marvel's best ever villains. I approve of this.

Moon Knight - Absolutely needed since he's the last major New York hero. He fits in too well with the existing Defenders a bit too well. He's also psychotic so things that happen in one episode may be retconned in the next and even his origin of dying in the temple of Khonshu may have actually been a concussion, meaning that Khonshu may just be a hallucination. Add in a love interest in Marlene who hates watching Marc slip further and further into madness and you have a really great series right there. It needs to be done.

Daughters of the Dragon - I'd rather see Jessica Jones go down this route in Season 2. It's already confirmed that Season 2 will focus more on supporting characters and only have female directors. Why not just go with Misty and Coleen working with Jessica? Jessica already lacks much in the way of source material. Just combine the three, especially if the pregnancy story is being used.

DD Supporting cast members e.g. Echo, Elektra, etc - Elektra should get her own series. Film Season 1 in Washington DC (and use the forests surrounding the city as a substitute for South America) and adapt Elektra: Assassin. Season 2 onwards should be filmed on location in Japan. Jessica also can't be the only female lead on Netflix.

Ghost Rider - Ghost Rider actually works on TV. Agents of SHIELD proves that you can do him in every episode. Just keep the cast small and set the show in LA and Vegas instead of New York and it's perfectly reasonable to do Ghost Rider on a budget.

Spider-Woman - I agree with you mostly but I'd rather she be on Agents of SHIELD. Particularly now that the show has gone supernatural.

White Tiger - Not enough source material. Works better as a supporting character.

Shang Chi - Really want to see this. Set it in Hong Kong with Chinese actors and have the parts that aren't in the SHIELD office with Blackjack and other English speakers in Chinese with English subtitles. People got mad about there being no Asian lead in the MCU and really wanted an Asian Iron Fist. Doing Shang Chi the right way with a young martial arts actor who's relatively unknown even in China and then make him a star would be a really great way for Netflix to enter the Chinese market.

Thunderbolts - T-bolts is already rumored. We just need to see Beetle in Ant-Man and the Wasp or Spider-Man 2, Atlas in Luke Cage Season 2, Moonstone in Captain Marvel, Songbird in Jessica Jones Season 2 and Fixer in Agents of SHIELD Season 5. It won't happen for a while but thankfully Marvel didn't kill Zemo off so this is VERY likely to happen. It would also need to be a TV show since the villains aren't likely to get solo films and need the screen time. The T-Bolts might not be on Netflix though. I think that they'd be better off on ABC.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think Thunderbolts is suited for a TV budget though. I'd rather it be a movie. We aren't going to see Atlas in Luke Cage. Doubt they could pull that off.

 

[Dasher10]

I don't think Thunderbolts is suited for a TV budget though. I'd rather it be a movie. We aren't going to see Atlas in Luke Cage. Doubt they could pull that off.

Ghost Rider is able to be done on a TV budget. And Atlas can be grounded a bit more by losing the size changing powers or only rarely using them.