Marvel's Big Three?

[antonydelfini]

In DC, both the in-universe and general popularity (us) contest goes to Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. But in Marvel, the in-universe most popular heroes (Captain America, Thor, Iron Man) is not as popular to the general audience (us). Our world loves the outcasts of the in-universe: Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Hulk!

 

[imdaly]

To me, it's always seemed to be: Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk

Next time you're in a Walmart, go check out the shirts in the boys' section, and check out the birthday party supply stuff. Which three do you see EVERYWHERE??

Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Hulk.


This Halloween, make a count of how many kids are dressed up like each Marvel hero. You'll see many many more Wolverines and Hulks than Captain America.

 

[moraldeficiency]

We knew what he meant, but because nobody else uses the nickname we decided to eff with him.

You machavellian @astards! you guys got me good! My humiliation knows no bounds. I mean I called spider-man bugs and you clever fellas had the diabolical plan to @uck with me by asking what I meant! Damn that was good. Remind me not to get on your bad sides cause I couldn't handle that level of clever.

 

[mathhater]

Ah, ok, could we keep the Superman is an icon bull**** to a minimum? Superman is outdated, almost irrelevant, and isn't it almost blashpemous to speak of Kau-Bell in a Marvel thread? I hate Superman...

Wow. I can honestly say I've never read a post I disagree with more. But to each his own.

And upon further thinking, when it comes to Marvel's Big Three...specifically related to DC's, I'm going with:

Captain America
Iron Man
Ms. Marvel (due to her recent relevance to the Marvel U)

 

[Sloth7d]

Wow. I can honestly say I've never read a post I disagree with more. But to each his own.

Theres no to each his own here. Whether that guy likes it or not Superman IS the icon for superheroes and the first thing most anyone thinks of when you even mention the term.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

Wow. I can honestly say I've never read a post I disagree with more. But to each his own.

And upon further thinking, when it comes to Marvel's Big Three...specifically related to DC's, I'm going with:

Captain America
Iron Man
Ms. Marvel (due to her recent relevance to the Marvel U)

Dude. No.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

Theres no to each his own here. Whether that guy likes it or not Superman IS the icon for superheroes and the first thing most anyone thinks of when you even mention the term.

Now if you wanna go into the whole wide world of comicdom big three. It'd be Superman Batman then Spider-Man. No discussions or arguments there.

 

[PhotoJones]

To me, it's always seemed to be: Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk

Next time you're in a Walmart, go check out the shirts in the boys' section, and check out the birthday party supply stuff. Which three do you see EVERYWHERE??

Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Hulk.


This Halloween, make a count of how many kids are dressed up like each Marvel hero. You'll see many many more Wolverines and Hulks than Captain America.

You're confusing popularity with recognizabilty.

 

[Sloth7d]

Now if you wanna go into the whole wide world of comicdom big three. It'd be Superman Batman then Spider-Man. No discussions or arguments there.

Ofcourse.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

You're confusing popularity with recognizabilty.

They're the same thing.

 

[PhotoJones]

They're the same thing.

No. They're not. Take a moment to yourself and think about it.

 

[Eros]

You're confusing popularity with recognizabilty.

in this case, the characters he named are both popular and recognizable.

 

[mathhater]

Dude. No.

Okay...just to expound on my choices:
Captain America: Similar to Superman in terms of his moral, iconic, and inspirational status to the Marvel U.

Iron Man: Similar to Batman in that his powers came through his own ingenuity, and he wants to solve the problems of the Marvel U no matter what. (Like how Batman was behind OMAC, Tony fronts the superhuman registration)

Ms. Marvel: A little harder to justify, but she just seems to be the go-to heroine in the Marvel U at this point in time. She does co-lead the "official" Avengers team after all.
...but if we're leaving estrogen out of the mix, then I'd say Thor...in terms of both power, and his mythic origin (similar to Wonder Woman...but different.)

But, as this thread has shown, it's hard to quantify Marvel's "Big 3." Which helps accentuate the differences between Marvel & DC.

 

[mathhater]

Theres no to each his own here. Whether that guy likes it or not Superman IS the icon for superheroes and the first thing most anyone thinks of when you even mention the term.

agreed.

 

[PhotoJones]

in this case, the characters he named are both popular and recognizable.

Yes. And?

 

[Sloth7d]

Wolverine is more recognisable and popular than Captain America. Captain America just isn't marketed enough, while Wolverine is all over the place.

 

[PhotoJones]

Wolverine is more recognisable and popular than Captain America. Captain America just isn't marketed enough, while Wolverine is all over the place.

That makes him more popular, yes. But not more recognizeable.

 

[Sloth7d]

That makes him more popular, yes. But not more recognizeable.

How.? Being more popular pretty much makes you more recognizable. The two go hannd in hand. Thats what being popular is. And seeing how Wolverine merchandise is all over the place, I think parents and grandparents would sooner recognise this Wolverine character their children are always asking them to buy. And I mean Wolverine is on underwear, lolly pops, toys, candy, posters, ect. way more than Captain America is.

 

[PhotoJones]

How.? Being more popular pretty much makes you more recognizable. The two go hannd in hand. Thats what being popular is. And seeing how Wolverine merchandise is all over the place, I think parents and grandparents would sooner recognise this Wolverine character their children are always asking them to buy. And I mean Wolverine is on underwear, lolly pops, toys, candy, posters, ect. way more than Captain America is.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Take a look at what's popular in pop culture and compare it to what's recogizeable. Take Mickey Mouse for example. He's obviously more recognizeable than Superman, Batman and Spider-Man combined. But he's not as popular. Batman brings in more money through TV, movies, games and merchandise for DC than Mickey Mouse does for Disney. He's more of a icon, but he's not as hot, at least not in today's market. Are you starting to see a difference between what's popular and what's recognizeable? Popularity can fade. Recognition is forever.

 

[GhostPoet]

Captain America, Iron-Man and Spider-Man.

 

[Sloth7d]

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Take a look at what's popular in pop culture and compare it to what's recogizeable. Take Mickey Mouse for example. He's obviously more recognizeable than Superman, Batman and Spider-Man combined. But he's not as popular. Batman brings in more money through TV, movies, games and merchandise for DC than Mickey Mouse does for Disney. He's more of a icon, but he's not as hot, at least not in today's market. Are you starting to see a difference between what's popular and what's recognizeable? Popularity can fade. Recognition is forever.

The whole Mickey Mouse thing is really only true for older folks who grew up on the mouse. And even still I see more recognizing Superman before Mickey Mouse or atleast most of the men will. But you can't really compare Mickey Mouse since his popularity is as high as ever. He's the poster boy of everything Disney. He's on most of their merchandice. He's on candy, lolly pops, and other candies. He's all over Disney Worl and Disney Land. I mean you can't compare him to Cap who's popularity never arose to that of iconic symbols outside of the comics. Maybe during the world war he was at his highest, but like you said, popularity fades. Wolverines hasn't and he's one of the three main faces of marvel comics. He's one of the characters they throw on the covers of comics lacking in sales. Not Cap. He's not iconic or popular enough to do that in real life.

 

[Blaktin America]

Least popular................give me your choices

 

[PhotoJones]

The whole Mickey Mouse thing is really only true for older folks who grew up on the mouse. And even still I see more recognizing Superman before Mickey Mouse or atleast most of the men will. But you can't really compare Mickey Mouse since his popularity is as high as ever. He's the poster boy of everything Disney. He's on most of their merchandice. He's on candy, lolly pops, and other candies. He's all over Disney Worl and Disney Land. I mean you can't compare him to Cap who's popularity never arose to that of iconic symbols outside of the comics. Maybe during the world war he was at his highest, but like you said, popularity fades. Wolverines hasn't and he's one of the three main faces of marvel comics. He's one of the characters they throw on the covers of comics lacking in sales. Not Cap. He's not iconic or popular enough to do that in real life.

It's not really up for debate. Mickey Mouse is the biggest character icon the world has ever seen. It's a fact, man. It's not an opinion. That said, he's not merchandised like he used to be. Kids growing up today prefer to have Spider-Man on their backpacks instead of Mickey. That's also a fact.

Now, by your definition, what sells more is what's more recognizeable. That's just not true, as I've shown you. You seem to have no concept of trends or consumer demand or marketing.

 

[supermarvelman]

Counterpart wise

Superman - Thor
Batman - Captain America
Wonder Woman - Ms. Marvel

Popularity-wise

Spider-Man
Wolverine
Incredible Hulk

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I think the Sentry would be Superman's closest counterpart at this point. Or Hyperion, although Hyperion's not really involved in the 616 universe much.