Marvel's Black & Minority Characters: Roundtable Discussion

[Lightning Strykez!]

Oh, I thougt this particular thread was addressing Black Superhero in comics. Did I stray to the Asian thread?

No, you're fine...the thread is dedicated to Black Heroes in particular, but we've been discussing all minorities, including gay characters. So Asians need apply.

I think so, I for one am hoping she wins. Someone needs to teach Tony and Reed a lesson.

I hope she does too, but I'm not sure that's possible. I mean, a battle between Storm and Thor has been begged for by fans for decades but this is Storm versus a clone...and one without ethics at that (and no, I don't trust Reed's "improvements").

Do you think she really has a chance to take a God down?

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

My issue is that anytime a non-white character is introduced, some immediately dismiss is as pandering or just an attempt to be p.c.

That's because often it's just one minority character sprinkled onto an all-white ensemble. If writers and artists were to truly make these teams mixed (and I don't mean "Nightcrawler-blue"), I think some readers would eventually toss the race card altogether. It would be like, "Oh, they're here to stay I guess."

X-Men used to be that way...but I can't think of any black characters that have a mainstay presence on any of the three teams right now, can you? Didn't Lucas leave for space?

 

[Anubis]

No, you're fine...the thread is dedicated to Black Heroes in particular, but we've been discussing all minorities, including gay characters. So Asians need apply.



I hope she does too, but I'm not sure that's possible. I mean, a battle between Storm and Thor has been begged for by fans for decades but this is Storm versus a clone...and one without ethics at that (and no, I don't trust Reed's "improvements").

Do you think she really has a chance to take a God down?

Like being a God means a hill of beans in comics. And even then, we're talking about mostly machine with cloned Thunder God parts. I think she has as good a chance of taking him as any.

 

[Anubis]

That's because often it's just one minority character sprinkled onto an all-white ensemble. If writers and artists were to truly make these teams mixed (and I don't mean "Nightcrawler-blue"), I think some readers would eventually toss the race card altogether. It would be like, "Oh, they're here to stay I guess."

X-Men used to be that way...but I can't think of any black characters that have a mainstay presence on any of the three teams right now, can you? Didn't Lucas leave for space?

He joined the Pro Reg side.

 

[RskimB]

Who are some of the major black and minority supervillains?

 

[deemar325]

Moses Magnum

Apocalypse

Tombstone

are a few.

 

[Anubis]

Apocalypse. That's about it for Major. You got Moses Magnum (Who could be considered major in terms of the comics.) umm, some Serpent Society members. Thunderball. Shaman. that's all I got right now.

 

[deemar325]

I think Killer Croc from DC is retroactively Black now.

 

[Anubis]

Where did you hear that?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

is the new "old" x-men character recently retconed "darwin" black? hes a disfigured mutant.. but he kinda has some features... and hes pretty kick ass...

 

[RskimB]

found a list all the almight wiki, its only black villains though
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_supervillains

DC Comics

* Black Manta
* Black Mass
* Black Spider
* Brick
* Catwoman (in Batman TV series, Season 3)
* Crowbar
* Cyborgirl
* Fatality
* Flare (Fatal Five)
* Holocaust/Pyre (DC/Milestone)
* Houngan (Brotherhood of Evil)
* Killer Croc
* Maitresse (enemy of Sovereign Seven)
* Peek-a-Boo
* Skorpio (enemy of Steel)
* Tally Man (OYL)
* Tobias Whale

[edit] Image Comics

* Angstrom Levy

[edit] Marvel Comics

* Achebe (Black Panther villain)
* Apocalypse (comics)
* Aries
* Bedlam III (Member of the Exemplars.)
* Bushmaster
* Cardiac
* Cardinal
* Chronok
* Coldfire
* Comanche (Power Man (Cage) foe, partner of Shades)
* Condor(Nova (Richard Rider) foe)
* Cottonmouth
* Crimson Commando
* Daddy Long Legs
* Darkoth
* Foxfire (comics)
* Hairbag
* Hardcore (Luke Cage villain)
* Impala (villainous member of Bad Girls, Inc.)
* Joanna Cargill
* Eric Killmonger (Black Panther villain)
* Kingpin (in Daredevil film)
* Locus
* Man-Ape (Black Panther villain)
* John M'Butu (enemy of the reimagined Squadron Supreme)
* Manslaughter
* Midnight's Fire
* Moses Magnum (Black Panther villain)
* Mr. Fish
* Nekra
* N'Kama (A Zulu Warrior hired by Damon Dran to capture the Black Widow)
* Powerhouse
* Puff Adder
* Rock Python
* Shades (Power Man (Cage) foe,partner of Comanche)
* Sombre (Black Panther villain)
* Tempo
* The Advisor
* Thunderball
* Tombstone
* Vermin
* Alex Wilder
* Catherine Wilder
* Geoffrey Wilder

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

RskimB...danke.

The sad thing is, I don't know who half of those characters are. This list must go back all the way to the 70s?

 

[RskimB]

RskimB...danke.

The sad thing is, I don't know who half of those characters are. This list must go back all the way to the 70s?

yea i bet more than half these guys haven't seen daylight in years

 

[spideyboy_1111]

RskimB...danke.

The sad thing is, I don't know who half of those characters are. This list must go back all the way to the 70s?

well the wilders are from runaways...

but damn.... cotton mouth? lol thats as bad as (to me) rawhide kid being gay

 

[RskimB]

well the wilders are from runaways...

but damn.... cotton mouth? lol thats as bad as (to me) rawhide kid being gay

I loved Alex before his betrayal

 

[Anubis]

is the new "old" x-men character recently retconed "darwin" black? hes a disfigured mutant.. but he kinda has some features... and hes pretty kick ass...

Yeah, he's black.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I loved Alex before his betrayal

i need to buy volume 1...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Yeah, he's black.

well hes pretty kick ass... the ultimate mutant of evolution... i don't think anything can kill him

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

well the wilders are from runaways...

but damn.... cotton mouth? lol thats as bad as (to me) rawhide kid being gay

I'm still lost on the Rawhide deal...except the ellusion to bareback sex. But Cottonmouth? I totally get that one. LOL

Wassup with the wack costume?

 

[Tropico]

Is Tombstone the pale white guy that has rock hard skin? If I'm remembering him correctly (from when he fought Darkhawk) it's incredibly ironic that he has the color he has. I'm not sure if Tobias Whale was like that, too. I'm pretty sure there was one Black Lightning kingpin like villain that was, like, bone white.

 

[terry78]

Cottonmouth, Man-Ape, Bushmaster, Peek-A-Boo. These names. I won't jump the gun about a tad stereotypical, but come on.

 

[Anubis]

I dated an Albino once.

 

[Tropico]

Who are some of the major black and minority supervillains?

The Mandarin was one of Iron Man's major villains and he was Asian, I think his son is making a comeback in future months.

Clones. Clones are always major supervillains. I feel sorry for clones, they get a bad rap most of the time.

 

[RskimB]

Cottonmouth, Man-Ape, Bushmaster, Peek-A-Boo. These names. I won't jump the gun about a tad stereotypical, but come on.

Yea I noticed the same thing but they originated from a less PC era though.

 

[Anubis]

Not Peek-A-Boo. Goeff Johns created her like four or five years ago.