Marvel's Black & Minority Characters: Roundtable Discussion

[ANTOINE X]

ok i think I missed something
WTFis "Cosmic Brotha" And "Soul Ghost" maybe even "Galactic Gangbanger"??? your joking right? because this is more than stereotype

 

[Darthphere]

ok i think I missed something
WTFis "Cosmic Brotha" And "Soul Ghost" maybe even "Galactic Gangbanger"??? your joking right? because this is more than stereotype

What is it, in your opinion?

Of course, I provided a link for contextual purpose to avoid such claims.

 

[PhotoJones]

what do u think t:

Nuclear pubes?

 

[ANTOINE X]

What is it, in your opinion?

Of course, I provided a link for contextual purpose to avoid such claims.

ah! ok...Altough I think Marvel have done a good job so far by making luke cage leader also black panther end storm in ff4 my only concern with marvel is the laziness of doing that michael jackson white to black thing. Instead of changing kinping and Nick fury to black just create some new etnic super heroes. As for DC there s loooooot of work to do!

 

[ANTOINE X]

Nuclear pubes?

nah! forget it. not really what I had in mind

 

[rigel7soldiers]

It seems that, in the face of complaints like these, whenever they try to bring a character back into focus, they have to ruthlessly update them, thereby attaching a gimmick. It seems like black characters specifically can't be revived without them becoming "CAGE, motha!"

Anyone else remember that? CAGE, by Ennis? If Ennis has anything to say about Carl Lucas, it's that his only consistant personality trait is violence and aggression. That aside, he is completely shaped by the times and trends. He's what Garth Ennis thinks black people think is cool. He's not an upstanding member of the community, he'd be a nobody if he didn't have superpowers. I hated that depiction of the character.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

It seems that, in the face of complaints like these, whenever they try to bring a character back into focus, they have to ruthlessly update them, thereby attaching a gimmick. It seems like black characters specifically can't be revived without them becoming "CAGE, motha!"

Anyone else remember that? CAGE, by Ennis? If Ennis has anything to say about Carl Lucas, it's that his only consistant personality trait is violence and aggression. That aside, he is completely shaped by the times and trends. He's what Garth Ennis thinks black people think is cool. He's not an upstanding member of the community, he'd be a nobody if he didn't have superpowers. I hated that depiction of the character.

I haven't read the CAGE book you mentioned, but I think Ennis has created stronger black characters then what is shown in this book, specifically in Punisher MAX.

For example, The Slavers, one of the supporting characters is a gay black cop, and him and his (police) partner are written well and are instremental to the story.

The biggest one would be Barracuda. Now he's definately not an "upstanding member," and is a cruel, violent man, he's not one-demensional either, and is written to be dangerously smart, able to pull of double and triple crosses some would deem impossible.

I'd also mention the sole black woman with the mafioso wives and the black cop that goes lone wolf to solve the case in the current arc, "Widowmaker," but that one isn't really Ennis' best, and I don't really feel like it.

Just saying, I don't think that's how Ennis thinks black people are like, in that CAGE story you mention. If anything, it probably has to do with his intense hatred of superheroes.

 

[Anubis]

I thought Azzarello did that Cage mini.

Edit:

yeah, Azzarello did it. Funny, he does pretty well with his african american characters in 100 bullets.

 

[32CAGE]

It seems that, in the face of complaints like these, whenever they try to bring a character back into focus, they have to ruthlessly update them, thereby attaching a gimmick. It seems like black characters specifically can't be revived without them becoming "CAGE, motha!"

Anyone else remember that? CAGE, by Ennis? If Ennis has anything to say about Carl Lucas, it's that his only consistant personality trait is violence and aggression. That aside, he is completely shaped by the times and trends. He's what Garth Ennis thinks black people think is cool. He's not an upstanding member of the community, he'd be a nobody if he didn't have superpowers. I hated that depiction of the character.

I remember the Cage mini series. It was out around 2001 or 2002 and was written by Brian Azzarello and not Garth Ennis. Like you, i too hated the way the character was depicted.

 

[Anubis]

I was unmoved either way.

 

[rigel7soldiers]

Oh, that was Brian Azzarello... my bad. Ennis did something I hate, though, I must've confused it with Cage... Crap, I feel dumb.

 

[Anubis]

But you smell like you just had sex with clown in a pit of cotton candy.

 

[Darthphere]

Appropriate time for a bump don't you agree?

 

[T'Jai]

wait ...what happened?? on second thought don't tell me, as soon as I finish catchin up on my books I'll try to catch up here on the hype so..end of nov. ish I should be able to read and post in comic threads again...



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[Darthphere]

wait ...what happened?? on second thought don't tell me, as soon as I finish catchin up on my books I'll try to catch up here on the hype so..end of nov. ish I should be able to read and post in comic threads again...



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Hudlin made BP join the KKK.

 

[Zoken]

Hudlin made BP join the KKK.

are you joking?

 

[Darthphere]

Is it sad that you had to ask? What does that say about Hudlin?

 

[Zoken]

screw Hudlin, this about the direction Marvel Comics is going in general. They'll do anything these days.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Why is he on Black Panther anyway?Just so people would read the comic?

 

[RockSP]

Why is he on Black Panther anyway? Just so people would read the comic?

Obviously he wants to write it. It's not like he's depending on BP to pay his bills.

Now as to why more people are buying his BP than Priest's...I couldn't begin to tell you.

 

[Anubis]

Marvel gave his stuff more promotion than they did Priests.

 

[Varient]

Appropriate time for a bump don't you agree?

Yes.

 

[Varient]

Obviously he wants to write it. It's not like he's depending on BP to pay his bills.

Now as to why more people are buying his BP than Priest's...I couldn't begin to tell you.

exposure.

Priests Panther was almost entirely word of mouth,... Hudlin's Panther has been promoted big time in the media.

 

[Varient]

Things are not really changing the way I want.

Falcon is still acting,........ wrong.

Cage remains "Out of Character"

I would expect semi-heroes Like Joshua X and Cardiac to have shown up Fighting in WWHulk or have to deal with Stark and the SHRA.


Sigh.

 

[RockSP]

Falcon is still acting,........ wrong.

How so?