MCU Dazzler movie

She did sing in her 70s solo series. They don't always need to include notes either. The same reason they don't include thought bubbles anymore.
 
Plus it's not like we need more non musical comic book films. Take your pick!

Marvel's strength has always been making their films just a bit different. It would be such a wasted opportunity to have legends in their stable now like menken and Jennifer lee and just make a generic superhero tale.

And yes the villains should definitely sing too!
 
Plus it's not like we need more non musical comic book films. Take your pick!

Marvel's strength has always been making their films just a bit different. It would be such a wasted opportunity to have legends in their stable now like menken and Jennifer lee and just make a generic superhero tale.

And yes the villains should definitely sing too!

Exactly. Who makes a Dazzler movie and doesn't make it a musical where she doesn't sing? It would be the most cheap ass thing.

Only Scott Buck would do something like that. It would be like Medusa not being able to use her hair because it got all shaved off. Or Karnak not being able to use his strategic abilities because he suffered a head injury.

It would be like an Ant-Man movie where he decides not to shrink but just spends the movie hanging out with his daughter telling her bedtime stories. We're not paying to see that!
 
Exactly. Who makes a Dazzler movie and doesn't make it a musical where she doesn't sing? It would be the most cheap ass thing.

Only Scott Buck would do something like that. It would be like Medusa not being able to use her hair because it got all shaved off. Or Karnak not being able to use his strategic abilities because he suffered a head injury.

It would be like an Ant-Man movie where he decides not to shrink but just spends the movie hanging out with his daughter telling her bedtime stories. We're not paying to see that!

Scott Buck for MCU Dazzler!! The film takes place during a period where she lost her voice.
 
The more I think about it, I really don't want a solo film, but a short film would be fine to me.
 
Scott Buck for MCU Dazzler!! The film takes place during a period where she lost her voice.

Lol. If he made all the Marvel movies it would always be at their lowest moments.

Now here's a clip from a production of Xanadu the musical:

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It's not in English. I think it might be Spanish. But it demonstrates the idea of singing while skating, which I think would look terrific on film, especially for the MCU.

Now imagine if they combined the disco dancing style from Saturday Night Fever with roller skating and singing? That's the kind of thing you see in the musical Starlight Express. That alone, even without special effects, would look spectacular and show off a lot of skill.

I also think the Electric Light Orchestra would be a fitting group to write the music for Dazzler.

The lyrics of this Sharpay song by Ashley Tisdale also sounds like it was written for Dazzler:

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Yeah, this whole thing you've come up with has got my interest for sure.
 
Dazzler would even be able to wear several of her costumes in the movie without it looking excessive. She can just wear them on stage, allowing her to have her classic disco era one, her blue one with the star and any others. And they can easily go really faithful with them and even garish looking and it won't look out of place at all because it's all for performance, and would suit the stage or disco environment.

A Dazzler mixtape would be awesome to have with the movie.

Oh, it would be much more than a mixtape. A movie like this could easily give us a fantastic soundtrack with tons of songs on it. And if they eventually took this to the Broadway stage, you'd later get a cast album of the musical production.

There are tons of ways to mine this thing. It would also work much better than something like Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark. That production was riddled with problems, a lot of which were centred around all the dangerous aerial wire work that was required for Spidey and the Goblin.

With Dazzler, the most "dangerous" things would be the skating and stunt work, which is far more tried and tested after thousands of performances of a similar nature for both Starlight Express and Xanadu, and tons of roller and ice dancing as well.

Also Spider-Man isn't typically a musical, whereas Dazzler is, and it lends itself very much to that format.
 
Yeah the roller disco angle would fit perfectly. It's her outlet. That angle alone would make her an outcast of sorts. Her and her friends are quirky but their day to day lives are filled with the redundant boredom of "normalcy". She wants more, she wants to find her place, she wants to be out from under the thumb and scrutiny of her parents (take your pick: hard drinking father/mother, resentful father/mother, step-parents, etc.)

Best of all I think it will provide a lot of what Logan did for the genre. Take the genre out of it's comfort zone but not so far that it's no longer a comicbook movie....if that makes sense.

She's conflicted about her powers of course--it makes her special, but still a freak. She comes out to her friend(s) unsure of how they'll take it. Their response is mixed--distrust: is she using her powers during the competition--is her being a mutant an unfair advantage, is she dangerous. nah, she's still "Jenny from the block". A sequence where she accidentally hurts one of her friends would bring the "potentially dangerous mutant angle" home to the audience. Yet they coud still sympathize with the character's plight.

Of course you'll have a few set pieces where she discovers her powers, uses her powers and ultimately decides stopping a crime by one of her closest friends (relative? younger sibling? etc.) is more important than the dance contest. She thwarts the crime in her dance costume--Dazzler is born. This could play out a number of ways of course.

Feel free to flesh it out some more. I think the gist is obvious and I would understand if some felt it was derivative. But I think for a Dazzler movie and the natural/organic progression of the MCU (with mutants) it simply fits like a glove.

What do you think of Jude Demorest or similar look as Alison Blaire? I don't want the girl next door look, something more ....seasoned...mature? I can't find the word to describe the look. It's the look Travolta had....street smart....it said pretty Italian boy from Brooklyn/Queens.

I dig this. I don't know if "seasoned" is the best way to describe Demorest or similar. I like the clear arc you have here and the scrappy vibe a whole lot, and her doing something athletic fuses much more fluidly into the idea of her being a crimefighter in time, and I think that's part of what the more pure-musical angle misses, in that the character has to transition into a world that is not a musical seamlessly.

There is a point there in terms of music, and that the character is traditionally a singer, and so while it's not at all the same as Scott Buck not using characters' powers, her singing is kind of important. Make her a sort of retro-musician, perhaps of the 80s in general, and so the contest in question - a singing contest - is one she discovers via her skating interest. Her powers going out of control makes more sense when the whole thing is about very loud music, like one might have at an outdoor concert.

I think it's also very important that her final confrontation be a musical thing, and not a combat thing. Ideally we would have last seen her bomb out of her music so that the clarity she gains from her physical confrontation carrying into the musical finale is a surprise.

The more I think of it, the more I think of a movie like Pitch Perfect, and the more I think that her powers should be the only source of the "musical" tropes and that the bad guys should not sing... at least not without an intense self-awareness.
 
Songbird/ Screaming Mimi can sing because that's her power too. She would be an ideal antagonist for the final showdown.
 
I personally would keep her for the Thunderbolts. Also I really liked the scene from comics where some girls thought they were going to jump her and then had Songbird step up to finish her off only to realize that Dazzler's power is to absorb Songbird's power.

I'd use Dazzler foes like Doctor Sax and Johnny Guitar. Maybe O.Z. Chase.
 
I personally would keep her for the Thunderbolts. Also I really liked the scene from comics where some girls thought they were going to jump her and then had Songbird step up to finish her off only to realize that Dazzler's power is to absorb Songbird's power.

I'd use Dazzler foes like Doctor Sax and Johnny Guitar. Maybe O.Z. Chase.


Well the thing about the Thunderbolts is that they wouldn't really work right off the bat. You need to establish some of the characters as villains first before they can masquerade as heroes and then unmask themselves. If you just introduce them right away without the proper set up, it's like how the DCEU tried to rush everything.

So Songbird can easily be in her original form as Screaming Mimi, but then later when she joins the Thunderbolts she can change her name, like all the other villains did.

As Screaming Mimi, she can fight Dazzler. Later on, Dazzler could encounter her in another film as Songbird and might not realise it's her straight away.
 
I was just watching hairspray live today and I saw the perfect choice for Mojo.

Harvey Fierstein (not the same as Harvey Weinstein). He would be perfect. Creepy but camp and fun as anything

 
John Travolta was in the film version of Hairspray, under a ton of makeup.

He'd be a bigger name and also has a good singing voice. He really ought to have been in the movie version of Chicago instead of Richard Gere. But somehow his agent convinced him it wasn't a good movie, and then Travolta ended up regretting it. Yet another role he missed out on to Gere (the other three being American Gigolo, An Officer and a Gentleman and Days of Heaven). He has the worst luck. :hehe:

Harvey Fierstein doesn't look a good name to have on a movie because of its similarities to Harvey Weinstein. It's only 2 letters different and people could easily confuse them. Maybe he should consider changing his name.
 
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That's a bit mean. Fierstein had an established career long before the Weinstein thing happened. He shouldn't have to change his name because of some other ********.

Travolta is an interesting idea though
 
Well the thing about the Thunderbolts is that they wouldn't really work right off the bat. You need to establish some of the characters as villains first before they can masquerade as heroes and then unmask themselves. If you just introduce them right away without the proper set up, it's like how the DCEU tried to rush everything.

So Songbird can easily be in her original form as Screaming Mimi, but then later when she joins the Thunderbolts she can change her name, like all the other villains did.

As Screaming Mimi, she can fight Dazzler. Later on, Dazzler could encounter her in another film as Songbird and might not realise it's her straight away.

That's a good point, the individual Thunderbolts would do well to play a role in others' films before coming together, that would be ideal. I don't think it necessary to avoid the DCEU feeling, as we saw in Guardians of the Galaxy, or we'll see in Black Panther with its three/four villains, but it's a good idea. It does kind of highlight the problem with making a straight musical, because if we equate her power to sing to the power to make a musical number happen, we run into a weird dissonance when she appears in another film and cannot do so anymore, or her singing works different, that makes introducing her a detriment, rather than a benefit.

Mojo would probably be a good fit for a straight musical, as he could create that effect in the story with his advanced technology. That kind of thing, where everything that is normally non-diagetic about a musical becomes grounded, and thus truly part, of the story could be really really epic. Also ties in with Longshot better. If not for Dazzler 1, definitely Mojo for Dazzler 2.
 
I was just watching hairspray live today and I saw the perfect choice for Mojo.

Harvey Fierstein (not the same as Harvey Weinstein). He would be perfect. Creepy but camp and fun as anything


I dig it
 
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I thought of another one for Mojo. Seth McFarlane.

He can really sing
He would bring in people who might be turned off by musicals
He has a very punchable face
He can keep it light and funny

 
Seeing this pic I saw online just makes me want to see Mojo in live action even more
 
So now that the Disney-Fox deal is finally coming together, time to resurrect this thread.

If Marvel goes to 4 movies a year, then I want them to put out Dazzler as one of the films.

They can't have 4 movies full of action-packed blockbusters, otherwise that will tire people. They need one which is a change of pace and a different genre. They can either have a quieter movie, or they can have a musical like Dazzler.

I've been waiting years for this and never thought it might be possible, especially under Fox. But under Disney, it has so much potential. They have lots of talent in this area, both in terms of song writers and actresses who can sing.

Imagine a chart-topping soundtrack album too with a number of singles from the movie.

I'm keeping hope alive there will be an MCU Dazzler movie in the next few years.
 
Me too! To be honest every time I’ve seen one of Ariana Grande’s new music clips I think god there’s a perfect dazzler movie hidden somewhere around there.

Kind of trippy, exciting, high fashion, catchy music, bit sexy but not too gross. Great way to really expand the marvel u
 
I could see them using Longshot as a character for little boys to look up to that are too scared to look up to girls, like Flynn was in Tangled. Santino Fontana could really rock the mullet I reckon and be cool enough to broaden the demographics

 
I don't know him. Is he a singer?
 
He’s Hans from Frozen! And he was in crazy ex girlfriend. He’s very good! The toast of the town on broadway
 
I could see them using Longshot as a character for little boys to look up to that are too scared to look up to girls, like Flynn was in Tangled. Santino Fontana could really rock the mullet I reckon and be cool enough to broaden the demographics


I'd rather Guido fit that niche of the awkward guy who's in love with the beautiful popular star.
He's way more interesting than Longshot could ever hope to be.
 

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