Far From Home MCU Spider-Man is very, very inaccurate

[Johnny-Oh]

The Russos had a version of the script where Spider-Man was included in case they got the rights to use them but that's the only reason they wanted to include him. Spider-Man doesn't belong in that movie and he shouldn't have been on it.

Then again, that scene with Tony in his room is the closest they've gotten to comic book Peter in my opinion.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

That first scene with Peter is really good, a very on-point portrayal of Peter Parker. So I don't quite understand why the Russos portrayed Spider-man the way they did, in both Civil War and Infinity War. The way he talks doesn't feel like Spider-man to me. It's more like Shazam type dialogue most of it. I thought Chris Pine captured that dry wit Spidey persona perfectly. Not just that but they showed us a glimpse of his inner thoughts which gave the character some nice depth. He is really tired. But he chooses to keep positive on the outside because he's a hero till the bitter end.

I decided that I will go see Far From Home in theaters. I just can't resist. So I'm hoping that the film makers at Marvel took a good look at their Spider-man and thought "what are the aspects that we should improve upon here".

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The way he talks doesn't feel like Spider-man to me. It's more like Shazam type dialogue most of it.

I know he's an excited kid who loves Superman, but even Billy Batson doesn't display that giddy behavior.

I decided that I will go see Far From Home in theaters. I just can't resist. So I'm hoping that the film makers at Marvel took a good look at their Spider-man and thought "what are the aspects that we should improve upon here".

One thing I know won't happen in this world is Peter thinking that Nick Fury is trash.
Another is Peter being told by Nick "You had the making of a villain, but you proved to be better than any of us".

 

[GuestStar2004]

You might get a Fury saying "tony would be proud of you" ;p

 

[Spidey_62]

You might get a Fury saying "tony would be proud of you" ;p

Oof, I hope not. But if he dies in Endgame we probably will lol. I don't get the aversion to the importance of Uncle Ben in these movies, Spider-Verse just did it way better and mentioned Uncle Ben. Even when it wasn't explicitly stated in that movie you could feel the weight on the Spider-people, or the fact that tragedy drives pretty much all of them. A very Spider-Man core issue.

 

[ragingdemon155]

My main problem as I’ve said over and over is with his power and abilities. He’s so ridiculously underpowered and underutilized in the mcu. The problem is that a large percentage of that fan base have no idea about the character so it doesn’t seem to bother many people. It’s not a knock against Tom Holland. I love him. He’s fantastic in the role.

I still don’t know exactly what Peter can a do because it feels like the suit does everything. Spider-Man routinely seems like the most misused character power level wise in the MCU so far and I’m hoping they take a step back and just re asses how they handle the character for the next movie

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well Spider-man is a big toy seller. i think thats why his suits have so many gadgets and stuff.

The next film has 2 suits, so thats 2 suits of toys they can sell.

 

[Donald Thomas]

This is what happens when Studios want their rebooted franchise to look different from earlier iteration of same character. It is especially frustrating when the new take becomes popular and gets acceptance, thus becoming new established cannon, the problem stems from having several restarts/reboots when the franchise is old, this is what Superman will have to go through if it gets rebooted, they will create something that wasn't there in the original comics.

The problem of deviating from established classic take for Spider-Man is due to reluctance of Studios to make movie on same story as it was done by Sam Raimi and Marc Webb. This is a problem for comic book properties that have many movies and many reboots, properties like Doctor Strange and Captain America don't have same problem.

Aloha,
I agree. Old guys like me grew up on the original Spider-Man cartoons and the silver Age comics. This is NOT your fathers Spider-Man. Between using two guys in their mid to late 20's playing a teen age Peter Parker to not having all of the Marvel Comic Book Universe under one roof, changes had to be made to our hero.Amazing Spider-Man #1 Spidey tried to join the Fantastic Four.It wasn't until Annual #3 that he tried out for the Avengers.The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoons seem to be the way Far from Home is going. Stark is out and SHIELD is in.That's very logical for this generation of Spidey fans.I van see Spidey being a part of the New Avengers in the MCU down the line.At least we were introduced to a Peter Parker who had the ability to create his own webbing, web shooters and costume. It was great that they let it be known that he dumpster dived to get the parts that he needed. Sam Raimi could n't see Peter making something that 3M couldn't make but that shows his lack of understanding of the character.In the comics with the long relationship that Peter had with JOhnny Storm, I always wondered why Spidey didn't go to Mr Fantastic a long time ago to get help with all of his gadgets and web formula.WE may see this happen in the MCU down the line.
Spidey rules

 

[Donald Thomas]

My main problem as I’ve said over and over is with his power and abilities. He’s so ridiculously underpowered and underutilized in the mcu. The problem is that a large percentage of that fan base have no idea about the character so it doesn’t seem to bother many people. It’s not a knock against Tom Holland. I love him. He’s fantastic in the role.

I still don’t know exactly what Peter can a do because it feels like the suit does everything. Spider-Man routinely seems like the most misused character power level wise in the MCU so far and I’m hoping they take a step back and just re asses how they handle the character for the next movie

Aloha,
The one thing in the first FF movie that was good. Mr Fantastic did tests on Human Torch's abilities.Without Spidey being a part of some group SHIELD, Avengers or other-how will he be able to test the limits of his powers?I have to go back and check, I think Tony Stark did do some tests on Peter when Peter, MJ and Aunt May were living in the Avengers Mansion.Other than one of the first Annuals, I don't think there has been a comic book that stated definitely these are the limits to spidey's strength, jumping ability, spider sense etc. That would be awesome.
Spidey rules

 

[CyclopsSummers]

This is unreadable as a huge wall of text. Who is going to read that without any paragraphs?

Agreed

I also dont appreciate this Spider kid MCU.
-"Great power, great responsabilities" skipped.
-Ben's mention, skipped. We dont know his uncle was murdered
-He lives in a ppartment instead of a house, with aunt May
-Harry Osbosn is remplaced by Ned, no Gwen, no MJ
...
We know they dont want to re-tell things already made by Raimi and Webb, but they can reprise same famous characters and adapt in differents ways

Michelle Jones Zendaya has a countpart comics = Michelle, a casual roomate
But i dont like this Spidey MCU adaptation
Im worried for X-men later. Will MCU respect X-men spirit ?

 

[ragingdemon155]

Aloha,
The one thing in the first FF movie that was good. Mr Fantastic did tests on Human Torch's abilities.Without Spidey being a part of some group SHIELD, Avengers or other-how will he be able to test the limits of his powers?I have to go back and check, I think Tony Stark did do some tests on Peter when Peter, MJ and Aunt May were living in the Avengers Mansion.Other than one of the first Annuals, I don't think there has been a comic book that stated definitely these are the limits to spidey's strength, jumping ability, spider sense etc. That would be awesome.
Spidey rules

There was an issue of Spider-Man #26 were Peter explains each of his powers to MJ. He goes over all of his abilities in detail. It’s the entire focus of the story because MJ realizes that he’s never really gone over them and she wants to know. It’s a short story at the end of the issue. It’s pretty much my main reference point for his abilities and I recommend that segment for anyone confused about what Spider-Man can do.

It was written by Tom DeFalco and of course the artwork by Bagley as usual was amazing .

 

[ragingdemon155]

Agreed

I also dont appreciate this Spider kid MCU.
-"Great power, great responsabilities" skipped.
-Ben's mention, skipped. We dont know his uncle was murdered
-He lives in a ppartment instead of a house, with aunt May
-Harry Osbosn is remplaced by Ned, no Gwen, no MJ
...
We know they dont want to re-tell things already made by Raimi and Webb, but they can reprise same famous characters and adapt in differents ways

Michelle Jones Zendaya has a countpart comics = Michelle, a casual roomate
But i dont like this Spidey MCU adaptation
Im worried for X-men later. Will MCU respect X-men spirit ?

I’m glad the Ben situation was skipped. Enough with the origins and so on. We’ve seen Ben get shot a million times lol. I didn’t feel there was a need to rehash that whole story all over again. Every single person whether they’re a fan or not of the character know about his origin. I prefer hitting the ground running.

The apartment vs house thing has never even crossed my mind. Could care less....

I could see how not having Gwen and Harry could bother some people but I actually enjoy his supporting cast in the MCU universe.

My issues like I’ve mentioned time and time again is the team behind homecoming portraying him as so weak. It feels like they don’t seem to understand the character during action sequences at all and the complete reliance on the suit is irritating because it takes away from the fact that he has all these amazing gifts.

 

[roxas99]

Agreed

I also dont appreciate this Spider kid MCU.
-"Great power, great responsabilities" skipped.
-Ben's mention, skipped. We dont know his uncle was murdered
-He lives in a ppartment instead of a house, with aunt May
-Harry Osbosn is remplaced by Ned, no Gwen, no MJ
...
We know they dont want to re-tell things already made by Raimi and Webb, but they can reprise same famous characters and adapt in differents ways

Michelle Jones Zendaya has a countpart comics = Michelle, a casual roomate
But i dont like this Spidey MCU adaptation
Im worried for X-men later. Will MCU respect X-men spirit ?

I don't want to see uncle been die in a spider-man movie ever again nor do i need to hear with Great power, great responsibilities for the 1000th time. even the peter parker in spiderverse told
miles to shut up when he was about to say it because even he was tired of hearing it


I going to be honest after Amazing spider-man 2 I was tired of spider-man movies
because instead of doing something different the amazing spider-man movies went right back to the doing a lot of what had already been done before.

1.uncle been death again
2.peter getting bit by a spider again
3.peter befriending harry again and he later becomes his worse enemy again
4.perter girl friend getting captured by the villain again


No matter how many new tweaks to the story and characters they made I could never shake the feeling that I have seen all of this before. so when they announced he was coming to the MCU I was not excited about it at all and My first thought was here we go again who are they going to get to play uncle ben killer this time lol


thankfully civil war and homecoming went in a different direction and for the first time in a long time I actually didn't hate seeing a spider-man in a movie

Look i grew up with the Sam Raimi spider-man films and if ever wanted to see something close to classic spider-man I will simply go back and rematch those old films

I don't want classic spider-man in the MCU
I want them to go in own their direction and forge their own path
introduce new characters and stories instead doing poor intimation of old story-lines like the amazing spider-man films did

I not fan of the last Jedi but this line sums up how I feel about the Spiderman franchise

“Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to” and for gods sake please do not ever let me see uncle ben die onscreen again....

 

[Havok83]

You are confusing Spider-Man. This isnt an adaption of 616 Peter. This is more in line with the Ultimate version, which the MCU has used as influence for other characters/stories, such as Nick Fury

 

[Arachnerd]

Why do people feel the need to brush away Uncle Ben and go with the tiresome and flawed "I don't want to see the origin again" argument?

Of course nobody wants that, but Ben is a big part of Peter's life, behind his philosophy. You have to bring him up at some point or another. I'm honestly astonished by the people who are basically okay with pretending he doesn't exist in the MCU.

And given how

Spoiler

Tony's death

will affect Peter in this movie, it would be a good time. But that's just what I think.

 

[GuestStar2004]

And given how

Spoiler

Tony's death

will affect Peter in this movie, it would be a good time. But that's just what I think.

Well really Tonys death gives less reason to mention Ben really. because Tony has now taken his place in many ways.

 

[djsunyc]

Agreed

I also dont appreciate this Spider kid MCU.
-"Great power, great responsabilities" skipped.
-Ben's mention, skipped. We dont know his uncle was murdered
-He lives in a ppartment instead of a house, with aunt May
-Harry Osbosn is remplaced by Ned, no Gwen, no MJ
...
We know they dont want to re-tell things already made by Raimi and Webb, but they can reprise same famous characters and adapt in differents ways

Michelle Jones Zendaya has a countpart comics = Michelle, a casual roomate
But i dont like this Spidey MCU adaptation
Im worried for X-men later. Will MCU respect X-men spirit ?

while the MCU plays a big part here, it's not 100% their character. sony still has a big say.

xmen is 100% with the MCU.

 

[Arachnerd]

Well really Tonys death gives less reason to mention Ben really. because Tony has now taken his place in many ways.

Not exactly. If anything, it reinforces the "With great power comes great responsibility" motto. Peter losing a person he looked up to would be a good time to mention the other important person he admired.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Not exactly. If anything, it reinforces the "With great power comes great responsibility" motto. Peter losing a person he looked up to would be a good time to mention the other important person he admired.

But that takes the focus off tony and the influence tony had on him. the difference between tony and Ben is that we seen Tony in several films with Peter... this would be the first time we heard about ben at all.

 

[Arachnerd]

You're speaking as if Peter would outright ignore Tony just by bringing up Ben once (either him or Aunt May)? I... don't really get what you're trying to say here.

 

[Avenging Angel]

Somehow to some, Tony suddenly became more important to Peter than Ben.

 

[GuestStar2004]

You're speaking as if Peter would outright ignore Tony just by bringing up Ben once (either him or Aunt May)? I... don't really get what you're trying to say here.

Well its a case of one mentor being dead and trying to live up to him... while referencing your dead uncle that hasn't been mentioned till now, who is just as relevant.

There is just a point there two might be too much then you could just focus on just one and if they are gonna focus on anyone one... which do you think it will be?

 

[Marvel united]

I'm surprised nobody is talking about this

 

[SpeterMan3]

Oh, sweet.

 

[Solaire]

I feel like MCU Spidey is better than any Spidey I have seen whether its from the past movies or the recent game.