MCU: Wolverine vs Hulk

[Silvermoth]

Well they could play on the idea of Ultimate Hulk who is a cannibal, and suggest that it could be Hulk who is eating people in the Canadian woods. But of course it would be Wendigo, who is actually a cannibal.

that would be cool. I mean, they could never do cannibal hulk in the mcu because he’s too marketable but if they did a twist with wendigo it could be cool

 

[Dark Raven]

that would be cool. I mean, they could never do cannibal hulk in the mcu because he’s too marketable but if they did a twist with wendigo it could be cool

It would be like Cap saying Hail Hydra in Endgame as a nod to the comics when he was revealed to be Hydra. They could never do it in the films but they could do a twist on it.

 

[Iceman]

Hulk, Wendigo and Wolverine in the same film would seriously be awesome, haha.

 

[eon001]

I feel it's the best way to introduce a new actor as Wolverine. Hit the ground running with an established MCU Hulk as a crutch.

Cast the small stocky looking Wolverine I've been wanting to see on screen for damn near 2 decades. The contrast would look so good with the small underdog powerhouse facing off against the green giant. John Bernthal or Scott Caan are my fan pics. Please let Hugh Jackman retire gracefully.

 

[Iceman]

Well we certainly know Bernthal can bring the intensity. He’s perfect as Punisher.

 

[Silvermoth]

It would also be a fun contrast for banner to meet someone who also looses control and becomes a monster.

marvel love finding award winning talent. Maybe there’s someone nominated for an award this year who might get the gig of playing Wendigo?

 

[Dark Raven]

It would also be a fun contrast for banner to meet someone who also looses control and becomes a monster.

marvel love finding award winning talent. Maybe there’s someone nominated for an award this year who might get the gig of playing Wendigo?

Anthony Hopkins is used to playing cannibals. And he can do double duty just like Bernthal.

 

[eon001]

Well we certainly know Bernthal can bring the intensity. He’s perfect as Punisher.

Honestly I feel Punisher was a 2 season audition for Wolverine. He even showed a few moments of Logan-esque charm in some episodes. He's also 5,9 which is a lot closer to Wolverines size than 6,3.

 

[Iceman]

If he was called up I think he’d do a great job.

 

[Catoti]

I feel it's the best way to introduce a new actor as Wolverine. Hit the ground running with an established MCU Hulk as a crutch.

Cast the small stocky looking Wolverine I've been wanting to see on screen for damn near 2 decades. The contrast would look so good with the small underdog powerhouse facing off against the green giant. John Bernthal or Scott Caan are my fan pics. Please let Hugh Jackman retire gracefully.

Yes, I agree. Jackman's wolvie was awesome, and I love him for it, but I think that introducing wolvie with a new actor would separate him from the other movies and integrate him better into the MCU.

I too want small, hairy, angry wolverine.

 

[Catoti]

Honestly I feel Punisher was a 2 season audition for Wolverine. He even showed a few moments of Logan-esque charm in some episodes. He's also 5,9 which is a lot closer to Wolverines size than 6,3.

He would be an awesome wolverine for sure.

 

[Fincher]

I don't really want Bernthal for Wolverine, although I'd rather have him than Emile Hirsch or Johnny Galecki, like some have fancast. I'm imagining he's just too old to get the role, anyway, since it'll probably be a while before they cast. Granted, that time gap could be applied to fancasting in general, mine included.

 

[eon001]

I don't really want Bernthal for Wolverine, although I'd rather have him than Emile Hirsch or Johnny Galecki, like some have fancast. I'm imagining he's just too old to get the role, anyway, since it'll probably be a while before they cast. Granted, that time gap could be applied to fancasting in general, mine included.

I'd rather they go unknown tbh or lesser known like Scott Caan. But out of the "A list" group, he's the obvious choice for me.

 

[Dark Raven]

I'd rather they keep Bernthal as the Punisher. He suits the role and I don't want the character to be constantly recast.

Don't want Scott Caan for the role though.

 

[Silvermoth]

Anthony Hopkins is used to playing cannibals. And he can do double duty just like Bernthal.

haha. It’s a shame Toby Jones is already in the mcu. He would have been perfect for this. Oh you know this would be a great way to get joe Pesci in the mcu

 

[Silvermoth]

How much violence do you reckon they could get away with? Do you think they would have to promote it specifically to say it’s not your typical marvel superhero story or make two versions, a pre 9:30 show and a post 9:30 show or just not bother and have the violence implied.

because I’m definitely a bit over seeing a guy with knives in his hands who just uses them for slicing wires in doors etc and the movie title definitely implies more contact than that

 

[TheVileOne]

How much violence do you reckon they could get away with? Do you think they would have to promote it specifically to say it’s not your typical marvel superhero story or make two versions, a pre 9:30 show and a post 9:30 show or just not bother and have the violence implied.

because I’m definitely a bit over seeing a guy with knives in his hands who just uses them for slicing wires in doors etc and the movie title definitely implies more contact than that

What if it was a girl with claws in her hands and feet?

 

[Silvermoth]

That would be awesome!!!!!!

 

[Silvermoth]

Ok I really want to see this but the tricky part is finding a really good scriptwriter so that interest is maintained right up to the big fight.

wouldn’t it be a fun way to include alpha flight but just as cannon fodder for a fully unleashed and out of control hulk? Also, after watching tons of one piece I want a fully anime inspired final battle

 

[metaphysician]

Oh, actually, I suppose to be less than completely hostile. . . so, if I had to write a Hulk vs Wolverine scene for a movie/show?

First, the setup would be "Hulk is driven into a berserk state and is rampaging". Mind control, brainwashing, some kind of weird gamma weapon, whatever, the point is that this is a Hulk that is not in control of his full faculties, which is why Wolverine has to fight him in the first place.

Second, Wolverine is 100% incapable of actually hurting the Hulk via his own abilities. This would be strongly suggested before the fight happens ( via something like his claws bouncing off Colossus during Danger Room training ), and then confirmed early in the fight when Logan gets a hit on Hulk that does absolutely nothing. This is not a fight between equals, and it wouldn't pretend to be.

So what is the point? The point is that Wolverine is doing what he does best, and what he does best is "Take the tough jobs in place of other X-Men, and survive". He's not fighting the Hulk to beat the Hulk, he's fighting the Hulk, to keep the Hulk fighting *him*. The other X-Men are doing something, like evacuating bystanders or preparing some plan to restore control to Banner, and Wolverine is buying them time. He can't hurt the Hulk, but he can annoy and harass the Hulk and keep him focused on "fighting and smashing Wolverine", and every second he does that is a victory. Plus, between his skeleton, his healing factor, and his skills, he might just be able to survive doing this. . . though it will probably hurt. A lot.

( Actually, I would probably make a point that this isn't the *only* option the X-Men have. Colossus could probably do a similar job of "Keep the Hulk occupied". The difference is that everyone else who might be able to keep the Hulk occupied stand a *much* higher chance of dying in the process. )

 

[Dark Raven]

Oh, actually, I suppose to be less than completely hostile. . . so, if I had to write a Hulk vs Wolverine scene for a movie/show?

First, the setup would be "Hulk is driven into a berserk state and is rampaging". Mind control, brainwashing, some kind of weird gamma weapon, whatever, the point is that this is a Hulk that is not in control of his full faculties, which is why Wolverine has to fight him in the first place.

Second, Wolverine is 100% incapable of actually hurting the Hulk via his own abilities. This would be strongly suggested before the fight happens ( via something like his claws bouncing off Colossus during Danger Room training ), and then confirmed early in the fight when Logan gets a hit on Hulk that does absolutely nothing. This is not a fight between equals, and it wouldn't pretend to be.

So what is the point? The point is that Wolverine is doing what he does best, and what he does best is "Take the tough jobs in place of other X-Men, and survive". He's not fighting the Hulk to beat the Hulk, he's fighting the Hulk, to keep the Hulk fighting *him*. The other X-Men are doing something, like evacuating bystanders or preparing some plan to restore control to Banner, and Wolverine is buying them time. He can't hurt the Hulk, but he can annoy and harass the Hulk and keep him focused on "fighting and smashing Wolverine", and every second he does that is a victory. Plus, between his skeleton, his healing factor, and his skills, he might just be able to survive doing this. . . though it will probably hurt. A lot.

( Actually, I would probably make a point that this isn't the *only* option the X-Men have. Colossus could probably do a similar job of "Keep the Hulk occupied". The difference is that everyone else who might be able to keep the Hulk occupied stand a *much* higher chance of dying in the process. )

Nice idea. I'd rather that it were Alpha Flight in place of X-Men though and that Wolverine is working with them when he encounters the Hulk.

But couldn't Wolverine simply be investigating some cannibalism in the Canadian woods (which turns out to be Wendigo) and also encounters the Hulk there? Maybe Wolverine is hotheaded and simply wants to kill Wendigo whereas Smart Hulk thinks he can cure him, so Hulk and Wolverine clash that way over what to do.

 

[metaphysician]

Nice idea. I'd rather that it were Alpha Flight in place of X-Men though and that Wolverine is working with them when he encounters the Hulk.

But couldn't Wolverine simply be investigating some cannibalism in the Canadian woods (which turns out to be Wendigo) and also encounters the Hulk there? Maybe Wolverine is hotheaded and simply wants to kill Wendigo whereas Smart Hulk thinks he can cure him, so Hulk and Wolverine clash that way over what to do.

Sure, the basic idea could work with Alpha Flight instead. However, your reversed scenario couldn't, because if Banner is the level headed one, either he wins effortlessly ( any kind of direct conflict ), or else Wolverine is the unambiguous villain of the scenario ( Wolverine sneaks around Banner to murder a helpless de-transformed Wendigo ).

 

[Silvermoth]

It would be really cool to do it like a character piece, not like an end of the world type movie. Like an easy rider type film.

although they would need a villain to team up against. Like a big bad that unites them in the end. Not the leader, I actually think he would be perfect for she-hulk season 2. Maybe red hulk?

 

[metaphysician]

It would be really cool to do it like a character piece, not like an end of the world type movie. Like an easy rider type film.

although they would need a villain to team up against. Like a big bad that unites them in the end. Not the leader, I actually think he would be perfect for she-hulk season 2. Maybe red hulk?

Actually, I could see Wendigo working for this potentially, if you rework him properly. Basically. . . imagine Wendigo as occupying a dangerous middle ground between Hulk and Wolverine. He's not as bricky as the Hulk, and not as skilled or stealthy as Wolverine, but the combo makes him an overwhelming threat to either of them alone. Against the Hulk, he's a weaker brick that the Hulk can't come to grips with because he's not fighting standup, but engaged in constant predatory hit and run tactics, slowly wearing him down with surprise attacks. Against Wolverine, he's not as smart or as sneaky, but he doesn't need to be, because while he's only mostly immune to being stabbed, he's still enormously stronger and more resilient then Logan, and can just beat him down. Only by teaming up can they take him down, with Wolverine hunting the Wendigo down and screening against his hit-and-run, and the Hulk dropping the hammer once he's properly pinned down and brought to heel.

Plus, given that the Wendigo is basically a werewolf story, outside of combat you *also* can have what amounts to a detective story, with Logan and Banner bringing their wildly different skill sets to bear on the problem of identifying who the Wendigo actually is. Which would also be the time to have a clash in worldview and ideology, with them very likely disagreeing on how to deal with "supernatural predator on a serial killing rampage" problem.

 

[MarvelFan]

I only could see Wolverine takes on the Hulk if Professor Hulk has regressed back into savage Hulk.

I cannot imagine this smart and pacifist Hulk can take on Wolverine one on one. Lol. Haha.