Miami Vice

ChrisBaleBatman said:
I found this on YouTube....and, well.....it's pretty crazy. I mean, if you saw the movie, at the end of the vid Crockett pulls this choke hold on some dude....so here's Collin practicing....:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlhvmVs6aJ0


Here's Farrel and Li taking salsa lessons

I think in this video, we kinda see how Mann can come off as a prick to some people. He's very hands on:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSg5LpUkJ-U&mode=related&search=

He's pretty damn tan for being Irish.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Here's Farrel and Li taking salsa lessons

I think in this video, we kinda see how Mann can come off as a prick to some people. He's very hands on:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSg5LpUkJ-U&mode=related&search=

Does he have a reputation for being that way? I didn't see anything in that video that presented him in any negative light. It's cool that he's, as you say, very hands-on.
 
Well, I agree......I look at those vids and I see the same things you all see. But, I think we kinda see why some people peg him for a demanding director.....the man knows what he wants. There's some vids of him doing his thing in the official site. You'd have to do some digging, but there's a video where he's giving instuctions to some Dominican's during the Dominican filming.....and he's quick to point out that the guy's not listening (apparently, the dude didn't seem to think that Mann actually knows spanish...lol).

So, I kinda see how he might rub some people the wrong way.......but I think we kinda see how actors can be good friends with him. Just look at the way Collin jokes with him at the end of the vid.
 
I wonder why mann put them through so much physichal training, and never allowed them to put it to use in the film.
 
Well, they did.

But, alot of stuff got cut.

I think it's been confirmed that there was an awesome shootout in the middle of the flick that was cut. Sigh....
 
I think thats the nature of direction; firmness and knowing exactly what you want/need. Film production can be a circus or precise dance routine, it all depends on how firm the director's vision is and how far he goes to get it. It looks like Mann knows how to be firm but at the same time doesn't create uncomfortable or hostile film environments that can ruin production or effect it heavily. Bad karma on set can create bad performance and/or drawn out takes that result in bad performances, shoots that run over as a result, walkouts, bad press, tension between departments, low morale on set, etc. So its a fine line.

Triadkd said:
I wonder why mann put them through so much physichal training, and never allowed them to put it to use in the film.

That's one of the things I love about Mann, his attention to detail. He makes Colin learn how to drive fancy cars, shoot guns properly, perform physical take-downs, box, etc. and it shows on film IMO. He wants to convey realism, to where there is not a doubt that these guys know what they're doing.

I wonder if Colin had to learn to drive the cigarette boats. I would say he did.
 
Mark Ruffalo got weapons training for Collateral. He was a marksman afterwards but he didn't even shoot his gun once in the movie. That is friggin' awesome.
 
I think thats the nature of direction; firmness and knowing exactly what you want/need. Film production can be a circus or precise dance routine, it all depends on how firm the director's vision is and how far he goes to get it. It looks like Mann knows how to be firm but at the same time doesn't create uncomfortable or hostile film environments that can ruin production or effect it heavily. Bad karma on set can create bad performance and/or drawn out takes that result in bad performances, shoots that run over as a result, walkouts, bad press, tension between departments, low morale on set, etc. So its a fine line.

Yeah, he seems to walk that line between demanding director.....and friendly director.

I think it's easy for directors to become too relaxed and not cover everything. I do admire the fact that Mann obviously knows EXACTLY what he wants to see and what he wants to happen. Total confidence, and it's gotta trickle down to the rest of the guys.

That's one of the things I love about Mann, his attention to detail. He makes Colin learn how to drive fancy cars, shoot guns properly, perform physical take-downs, box, etc. and it shows on film IMO. He wants to convey realism, to where there is not a doubt that these guys know what they're doing.

I wonder if Colin had to learn to drive the cigarette boats. I would say he did.

Yeah, realism was key, I think. That way, when they do the smallest thing....it looks real. I thought the way Crockett performed that sleeper hold was just insanely awesome......and ****.....it looked gritty and real. I don't think I've ever seen the move performed that way before. Farrell had obviously done it before, and now with the vids I saw at You Tube....I see why.

I did hear that he learned to drive the boat, but I don't know for sure. I'm with you though.....chances are, he probably atleast learned a little.
 
Here's a better version, and some more footage, of some of the You Tube stuff. It's at Apple.com on quicktime.....so, it might not work for everyone:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/miamivice/featurettearts/

Now this is a vid of some of the scotuing the filmmakers did. Really, I think the location shooting.....in DR, in Paraguay, etc...it had to be very costly budget wise. I guess if they'd keep the sequel all in Miami, it'd trim the budget nicely:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/miamivice/featurettescouting/
 
I dug this one up.......I don't even remember seeing it before:

Miami%20Vice%20portable.jpg
 
I think I've watched that dance one three or four times now.

Gong Li is so damn hot.
 
xhiresmvpromo20 heres a pic from the deleted trailer park shootout, and heres a description of what was cut:(from miami vice forums)

Another shootout cut could have been when they dropped the first load off in a jack in the box parking lot in north miami. (It was in the script).


The scene was quick - but there was some shooting. They set up Neptune - who we saw as the pimp in the opening scene.

Sonny tells Tubbs in that opening scene - dont worry, Neptunes time will come.

It does - it just ended up on the cutting room floor - imho

He comes into the parking lot in fancy car and then crockett says

Incognito Genius - thats a way to be discrete.

Neptunes bad guys then open the back of the 18 wheeler and bamb - either Trudy or Gina and not the load are in the truck and they slam their shotgun butt into the head of the one of the bad guys. Shooting starts - Crockett then blows the legs out of another bad guy.

Then

They leave the bad guys in the 18 wheeler - except for Neptune - who they take with them.

Crockett then calls Yero - which we see in the movie.

Yero comes over to the house where he sees the load. WHat was cut - or was never filmed - was Neptune also being tied up in the house.

Yero: what do you want me to do with him?

Crockett: thats not our skill set

Tubbs: we told you, violence is extra

Then they tell Yero to leave - like we saw in the movie.

Also - i think this shootout was filmed - because Tubbs tells Yero when they met him for the first time about the 18 wheeler in North Miami. (When Tubbs tells Yero how this is going to work)

Unfortunatley only seven minutes is being to the film for the dvd release so I guess we will never see this footage.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
I dug this one up.......I don't even remember seeing it before:

Miami%20Vice%20portable.jpg
If I remember that´s one of the things that were criticized about the show... That it used the undercover thing as an excuse to glamourize cops, the same way that Magnum PI glamourized private detectives - living in a mansion, driving a Ferrari, etc.
 
ultimatefan said:
If I remember that´s one of the things that were criticized about the show... That it used the undercover thing as an excuse to glamourize cops, the same way that Magnum PI glamourized private detectives - living in a mansion, driving a Ferrari, etc.

That's part of the 80s for ya! Glamorizing everything: cops, criminals, executives, etc. Its almost like the time period went out of its way to avoid being realistic or down to earth; everything was some fairy tale version of a real life thing.
 
Come to think of it, I do remember shots of a black guy being tied up and gagged in some of the TV spots. Odds are - it was Neptune. And where is this pic of the deleted shootout?
 
Well, that's kinda part of the whole MIAMI VICE thing. To sort of keep his cover as Sonny Burnett, Crockett is given the "tools" of the trade. An expensive high price car, and other stuff that were in the show.

So, really.....it's all part of his cover....which is ****ing cool, I think.
 
hey yo its sean said:
Oh man, HR.. You've got to finish season 5. Season 5 is, IMO, one of the best seasons of a any television show i've seen.

Season 6 is said to get even better.
Just finisehd season 5 and wow! Destroys the first 4 seasons!!! Cant wait for 6th season and hopefully its the last. I've been waiting tooo long to finally see Vic get whacked!
 
NOFX said:
Just finisehd season 5 and wow! Destroys the first 4 seasons!!! Cant wait for 6th season and hopefully its the last. I've been waiting tooo long to finally see Vic get whacked!

It's not.

Why would you want Vic to bite it?
 
hey yo its sean said:
It's not.

Why would you want Vic to bite it?
I've wanted him dead since the first episode after he killed one his own. I was hoping Forrest Whitaker would finally put an end to Vick Rein but I guess ill have to wait one or two more seasons before that happens.
 
ChrisBaleBatman said:
Are you supposed to hate him? I mean...isn't he the main character?

It's a love/hate thing. He does some things that are good, he does some things that are bad for good, then he does some things that are bad. Kind of feel silly generalizing but it's really a complex thing. Makes it awesome to watch, laulz.
 
Conflicted hero. I dig that.

Btw......I imagine if there's anything from the previous Crockett that was cut, it'd have to be his College Football career.

I mean, the dude had been a famous wide reciever for the University of Florida......yet was able to keep his cover as Burnett in the same city he played? That just insane.....
 

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