Michael B Jordan IS Erik Killmonger!

[Stringer]

Yes and he wanted to supply the members of his race with advanced weapons so they could take over governments, kill innocents, and "restart the world". There's a small kernel of goodness in what he wants to do but he's mostly a really bad guy. The way T'Challa ends up going about it is much better.

I believe he wanted oppressed people to have the weapons not just black folks.

 

[samsnee]

Ok if this movie is as big as expected, I wonder if MBJ has a legitimate shot at best supporting actor next year. He is getting high praise.

 

[Boy Scout]

It's often difficult with whether to kill a major villain or allow him to remain a life for future use. Joker surviving in The Dark Knight made sense. But some films, the hero needs to OFF the villain. Otherwise, I feel they villain becomes very underutilized later on or feels like a completely different character.

would it have made sense if T'Challa allowed him to live?

[BLACKOUT]Well, he did offer to try and heal his stab wound.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[KevTravels]

[BLACKOUT]Well, he did offer to try and heal his stab wound.[/BLACKOUT]

I mean in general. In his place. Would it have made sense?

 

[Boy Scout]

I mean in general. In his place. Would it have made sense?

I mean, sure. I don’t doubt that Wakanda is capable of [BLACKOUT]keeping dangerous criminals captive.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[redhawk23]

It's often difficult with whether to kill a major villain or allow him to remain a life for future use. Joker surviving in The Dark Knight made sense. But some films, the hero needs to OFF the villain. Otherwise, I feel they villain becomes very underutilized later on or feels like a completely different character.

would it have made sense if T'Challa allowed him to live?

[BLACKOUT]T'Challa offered to try to heal him. Killmonger chose to die.
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[fancyarcher]

Ok if this movie is as big as expected, I wonder if MBJ has a legitimate shot at best supporting actor next year. He is getting high praise.

Unfortunately the comic book hate, and the fact that it's an early February release will probably doom him from a potential nominee. Not that I think he's exactly worthy of one per-say.

He was great in the film. Compared to other Marvel villains, Killmonger actually had a reasonable motivation and a good arc, which I really liked and appreciated.

 

[TeeKay]

What a great villain. I didn't think Marvel would go there.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

MBJ killed it IMO. I didn't believe the hype, but he was a fantastic villain and definitely the best Marvel has delivered so far.

 

[Prettyricky]

Lets pump the breaks a minute on awards talk, he was agreat villian and i liked his story until the 3rd act happened and then he lost me. Hes pretty much loki 2.0 but with much better motivation to do wjat hes doing in the story. I wish we would have gotten more of him then we did especially in the middle of the movie where I felt it dragged a bit. Hes definitely top 5 of mcu villians but awards whispers are a bit premature.

 

[Travesty]

I wanted to see more Killmonger and BP. The movie seemed to lack a bit of both.

 

[Prettyricky]

I wanted to see more Killmonger and BP. The movie seemed to lack a bit of both.

Yeah didnt it feel rushed after

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Eric bust klaue out then kills him and 15 minutes later hes the king of wakanda? It felt alittle too quit like a scene with killmonger was missing

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[Loki882]

Yeah didnt it feel rushed after

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Eric bust klaue out then kills him and 15 minutes later hes the king of wakanda? It felt alittle too quit like a scene with killmonger was missing

Honestly one of my VERY few complaints about this film is that:

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The transition from Klaw to Killmonger as the villain felt kind of, clunky. Also they seemed to be setting up his partner/GF to be a more important character early on, but then just kind of tossed her aside without much fanfare. It was weird, especially for a movie that does really well by it's female characters otherwise.

 

[terry78]

That was kind of a subversion with her I think.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Honestly one of my VERY few complaints about this film is that:

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The transition from Klaw to Killmonger as the villain felt kind of, clunky. Also they seemed to be setting up his partner/GF to be a more important character early on, but then just kind of tossed her aside without much fanfare. It was weird, especially for a movie that does really well by it's female characters otherwise.

Yeah I agree with that, we definitely needed more time with Killmonger

 

[Silvermoth]

I thought Killmonger was fascinating. I'm going to be thinking about him for a long time. How he felt rejected as a wakandan and an American. And I'll never forget that last line. And his resentment and how it mixed with his relationship with his dad. Just mind blowing, citizen Kane level stuff

 

[StarLord]

 

[KevTravels]

I wish we had more scenes with him and the Queen. Or of his apparent descent into madness.

 

[Stringer]

Honestly one of my VERY few complaints about this film is that:

Spoiler

The transition from Klaw to Killmonger as the villain felt kind of, clunky. Also they seemed to be setting up his partner/GF to be a more important character early on, but then just kind of tossed her aside without much fanfare. It was weird, especially for a movie that does really well by it's female characters otherwise.

I think she was used to show how little empathy remained in his heart. He killed someone he cared about with only the slightest bit of hesitation in order to get to Wakanda. It also gave more weight to his speech to T'Challa before their fight at the waterfall.

 

[kguillou]

MBJ was FANTASTIC in this role. He is hands down the best MCU villain and he played it with fearful charisma. Although, I will say, and I have to watch it again to fully take it in, but I didn't sympathize with Kilmonger one bit like it seems a lot of other people have. He didn't come off as an "i feel your pain and I understand your motivations even if i dont agree with them" type of villain like...Magneto for example. Magneto is a guy I can almost get behind even if his actions are extreme becuase you genuinely feel horrible for what he's been through. I never connected with Killmonger from a sympathetic standpoint because from scene one he seemed like he didn't give an F about anyone but himself because he was so full of hate, the guy was completely heartless and I think because of that I couldn't, even a little bit, get behind his actions and his goal.

 

[terry78]

I think they played him kinda schizo in that manner, like he's supposed to be one of those well intentioned villains when really he's just a selfish dick who has family issues. Which s pretty common.

 

[kguillou]

I never bought that he was genuinely invested in helping his brothers and sisters for their betterment even through extreme methods. He just seemed like a guy with a power trip and anyone and everyone is expendable if they oppose him or get in his way.

I dunno, maybe its just me, but I never felt tragic pain for him. But that doesnt take away from the fact that he was an A+ villain.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I was a little worried when Jordan was cast he'd just be a forgettable Marvel villain, but was hoping with him cast and Coogler directing there would be more to him, and boy, did they deliver. I was expecting another mirror image to the hero thing, but this was so interesting. He had a great view point that I agreed with and some of the best villains usually have that, and you put that against your hero, it creates even greater conflict.

And

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I'm glad he died. It served a purpose for this one movie and T'Challa and his own arc. Making him live would have just strung it out unecessarily. Not all villains need to live in comic book movies, it just depends on what it's going for. He has a great last scene. And he wasn't disposed of in a cartoonish way.

He's third in Marvel film's best villains behind Loki and Vulture.

 

[Chance Jackson]

I believe he wanted oppressed people to have the weapons not just black folks.

which would make sense but he wanted to arm people in London not exactly ground zero for oppression