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The Amazing Spider-Man Michael Papajohn Returning for Spider-Man 4?

Yep, so the suit and equipment would have to be smaller, faster, and more agile.
 
But then again, Harry Osborn being Rocket Racer is just unforgivable. (Assuming that it was Raimi's decision to make him a Rocker Racer)
Raimi acknowledged that the fans was not happy about the "Power-Ranger" goblin suit from the first film. I think he wanted to do something different and James Franco suggested a more "modern hip look".
 
I disagree... Sam had control over more than you think. Eddie/Venom and Gwen was the only thing pressed. It was Sam's idea to half-arse Venom, not Avi Arad.... to write a lame story and motivation for Eddie/Venom, to give Gwen such a useless role, and everything else involved with the story; including the crying, dancing, and ******ation. Don't discount Sam's role in this film; and, don't expect any better in the next.

Still, it's not he who is writing the script now. They've hired some great writers for this movie so I still have hopes for it. However, I won't hype the movie as much as Spider-Man 3 was hyped. I don't want to end up with the same disappointment.
 
It doesn't matter matter, Sam dictates to his writers what he want the story to evolve into.... in others words, the basic premiss or theme of the film; than the writers formulates a story based on that. And don't think for one minute, Sam does not have any input on specifics & details. He is not going to put his destiny, completely in writers hands.... come on.

Given how you say you won't hype SM4 as you did with SM3, shows that even you instinctively & subconsciously know that Sam will not deviate from his style of film making and story telling, to the point that you really don't believe SM will be anything different from the previous film.... especially SM3. In otherwords, all the talk about Sam saying TDK upping the ante and taking something from it is just BS.
 
It doesn't matter matter, Sam dictates to his writers what he want the story to evolve into.... in others words, the basic premiss or theme of the film; than the writers formulates a story based on that. And don't think for one minute, Sam does not have any input on specifics & details. He is not going to put his destiny, completely in writers hands.... come on.

Given how you say you won't hype SM4 as you did with SM3, shows that even you instinctively & subconsciously know that Sam will not deviate from his style of film making and story telling, to the point that you really don't believe SM will be anything different from the previous film.... especially SM3. In otherwords, all the talk about Sam saying TDK upping the ante and taking something from it is just BS.

Yeah you're right, but still, we don't know how the movie would have ended if it would have gone as he initially wanted (Vulture instead of Venom, he and Sandman escapes prison together and form a plot etc.). There would be no dancing and no cookies, since the symbiotes wouldn't appear at all. There would be no Stacys. The main problem was that the movie tried to be too dark just because of the symbiote theme. Also, Venom and Sandman had nothing in common, so that's why it felt so forced in the end. In the original plot, Sandman and Vulture escaped prison together and then decided to take Spidey down as a team. I think Raimi would have directed Spider-Man 3 in the same vein as the previous ones if it wasn't for the symbiote (however, I'm not saying it would've ended up as good as the previous ones). The ideas I heard of his original story seemed very good imo. That's why I don't think we should rule Raimi out, as long as he gets what he wants.

It's not that I don't have faith in Raimi for this one. It's just that I got too hyped for Spider-Man 3 with the amazing trailers and all, just to get disappointed in the end. Also, I know that Raimi can do huge mistakes, even though I have faith in him for the fourth installment. I just hope it will be as entertaining as the first one.
 
Yeah, I agree with Venoms'dad. Sam has more control and therefore will have input in how the story will ultimately be written. Given his style I wouldn't expect any major changes in what he has established overall in this francise.
 
He simply didn't want Harry using the same equipment or wearing a similar Goblin costume like his father. So they decided to change it since his primary goal was revenge on Peter and nothing more.
Yep, so the suit and equipment would have to be smaller, faster, and more agile.

Which is the same reason why Harry became the 2nd Green Goblin in the comics. Sure I imagine they could have updated the goblin suit and gear but I find it ridiculous that they use that reason so they could deviate so much to the snowboarding ninja that we got :o
 
I can't believe that "Papajohn" is the dude's last name..
 
Papajohn clarifies the comments he made regarding SM4.

SD: I read on a super hero website that if you did reveal any secrets for your reprising role in Spider-Man 4 you would have to kill them. Is that really the case or can you dish out any secrets for the upcoming movie?

MP
: I don't take myself seriously so if I did say that I was probably joking. At the Comic Convention's Q&A I mentioned I got a call saying my character is coming back. The studio didn't call me back yet so I don't know…who says I die? I just fell out of the window that doesn't mean I die.

SD: If you had the chance to choose your own ending for the Carjacker what would it be? Would you want him to live or die?

MP
: Wow, that's a really good question. There will be a lot of action. Absolutely I want to live. My dream would be for the Carjacker to be reformed into a good guy…Maybe have the Carjacker and Spider-Man get together in 5 and 6. All I know is that I want to have a gun in my hand.
Source:http://thecelebritycafe.com/interviews/michael_papajohn_2009.html
 
Wow, that's a really good question. There will be a lot of action. Absolutely I want to live. My dream would be for the Carjacker to be reformed into a good guy…Maybe have the Carjacker and Spider-Man get together in 5 and 6. All I know is that I want to have a gun in my hand.
:facepalm:
 
Maybe they'll make him be the father of Black Cat or something. Like they did in Spectacular Spider-Man.
 
Raimi has obviously told Papajohn to play dumb to the facts of his Papappearance in SM4 after opening his mouth, as the plot of the movie is already staring to leak.
*Spoliers for SM4 , including villans featured*

Papajohn appears in another flashback to the moment of Ben's death. This time we see that Sandman's gunshot actually hit the pavement, but ricocheted across the street and hit a sniper who was aiming at Papajohn. It turns out that the sniper was the wrestling promoter from SM1. He is hit in the head by Sandman's bullet which causes his own gunshot to miss Papajohn and kill Ben.
The promoter survives his headwound thanks to a new genius surgeon called Alistare Smythe who installs a revolutionary cyborgian chrome dome into his skull, the promoter becomes Hammerhead and takes over the NY underworld with a large gang of wrestlers(including 'The Grizzly') in a bid to get the 'Spider-man kid' who he blames for his new freakish predicament.
Captain Stacey summons Pete to Police HQ with a speed camera shot of the real, totally true this time killer of Ben.
Unknown to Hammerhead Smythe has installed a Spider-slayer into his metal skull which activates at the first sign of Spider-man, turning the promoter into a large 300ft spider-robot.
This leads to a big fight at the end and a 5min appearance by the Lizard who just happened to be in the neighbourhood chasing meteorites.
 
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*Spoliers for SM4 , including villans featured*

Papajohn appears in another flashback to the moment of Ben's death. This time we see that Sandman's gunshot actually hit the pavement, but ricocheted across the street and hit a sniper who was aiming at Papajohn. It turns out that the sniper was the wrestling promoter from SM1. He is hit in the head by Sandman's bullet which causes his own gunshot to miss Papajohn and kill Ben.
The promoter survives his headwound thanks to a new genius surgeon called Alistare Smythe who installs a revolutionary cyborgian chrome dome into his skull, the promoter becomes Hammerhead and takes over the NY underworld with a large gang of wrestlers(including 'The Grizzly') in a bid to get the 'Spider-man kid' who he blames for his new freakish predicament.
Captain Stacey summons Pete to Police HQ with a speed camera shot of the real, totally true this time killer of Ben.
Unknown to Hammerhead Smythe has installed a Spider-slayer into his metal skull which activates at the first sign of Spider-man, turning the promoter into a large 300ft spider-robot.
This leads to a big fight at the end and a 5min appearance by the Lizard who just happened to be in the neighbourhood chasing meteorites.

:pal::lmao:

You win 10 internets, good sir. I bow to your genious. :bow:
 
Raimi has obviously told Papajohn to play dumb to the facts of his Papappearance in SM4 after opening his mouth, as the plot of the movie is already staring to leak.
*Spoliers for SM4 , including villans featured*

Papajohn appears in another flashback to the moment of Ben's death. This time we see that Sandman's gunshot actually hit the pavement, but ricocheted across the street and hit a sniper who was aiming at Papajohn. It turns out that the sniper was the wrestling promoter from SM1. He is hit in the head by Sandman's bullet which causes his own gunshot to miss Papajohn and kill Ben.
The promoter survives his headwound thanks to a new genius surgeon called Alistare Smythe who installs a revolutionary cyborgian chrome dome into his skull, the promoter becomes Hammerhead and takes over the NY underworld with a large gang of wrestlers(including 'The Grizzly') in a bid to get the 'Spider-man kid' who he blames for his new freakish predicament.
Captain Stacey summons Pete to Police HQ with a speed camera shot of the real, totally true this time killer of Ben.
Unknown to Hammerhead Smythe has installed a Spider-slayer into his metal skull which activates at the first sign of Spider-man, turning the promoter into a large 300ft spider-robot.
This leads to a big fight at the end and a 5min appearance by the Lizard who just happened to be in the neighbourhood chasing meteorites.

:lmao: :up: Well done.
 
Raimi has obviously told Papajohn to play dumb to the facts of his Papappearance in SM4 after opening his mouth, as the plot of the movie is already staring to leak.
*Spoliers for SM4 , including villans featured*

Papajohn appears in another flashback to the moment of Ben's death. This time we see that Sandman's gunshot actually hit the pavement, but ricocheted across the street and hit a sniper who was aiming at Papajohn. It turns out that the sniper was the wrestling promoter from SM1. He is hit in the head by Sandman's bullet which causes his own gunshot to miss Papajohn and kill Ben.
The promoter survives his headwound thanks to a new genius surgeon called Alistare Smythe who installs a revolutionary cyborgian chrome dome into his skull, the promoter becomes Hammerhead and takes over the NY underworld with a large gang of wrestlers(including 'The Grizzly') in a bid to get the 'Spider-man kid' who he blames for his new freakish predicament.
Captain Stacey summons Pete to Police HQ with a speed camera shot of the real, totally true this time killer of Ben.
Unknown to Hammerhead Smythe has installed a Spider-slayer into his metal skull which activates at the first sign of Spider-man, turning the promoter into a large 300ft spider-robot.
This leads to a big fight at the end and a 5min appearance by the Lizard who just happened to be in the neighbourhood chasing meteorites.

Winner! :woot:
 
Raimi has obviously told Papajohn to play dumb to the facts of his Papappearance in SM4 after opening his mouth, as the plot of the movie is already staring to leak.
*Spoliers for SM4 , including villans featured*

Papajohn appears in another flashback to the moment of Ben's death. This time we see that Sandman's gunshot actually hit the pavement, but ricocheted across the street and hit a sniper who was aiming at Papajohn. It turns out that the sniper was the wrestling promoter from SM1. He is hit in the head by Sandman's bullet which causes his own gunshot to miss Papajohn and kill Ben.
The promoter survives his headwound thanks to a new genius surgeon called Alistare Smythe who installs a revolutionary cyborgian chrome dome into his skull, the promoter becomes Hammerhead and takes over the NY underworld with a large gang of wrestlers(including 'The Grizzly') in a bid to get the 'Spider-man kid' who he blames for his new freakish predicament.
Captain Stacey summons Pete to Police HQ with a speed camera shot of the real, totally true this time killer of Ben.
Unknown to Hammerhead Smythe has installed a Spider-slayer into his metal skull which activates at the first sign of Spider-man, turning the promoter into a large 300ft spider-robot.
This leads to a big fight at the end and a 5min appearance by the Lizard who just happened to be in the neighbourhood chasing meteorites.


This wouldn't suprise me if its in the movie. but im not sure if i should laugh or cry. OK a chuckle:hehe:
 
Raimi has obviously told Papajohn to play dumb to the facts of his Papappearance in SM4 after opening his mouth, as the plot of the movie is already staring to leak.
*Spoliers for SM4 , including villans featured*

Papajohn appears in another flashback to the moment of Ben's death. This time we see that Sandman's gunshot actually hit the pavement, but ricocheted across the street and hit a sniper who was aiming at Papajohn. It turns out that the sniper was the wrestling promoter from SM1. He is hit in the head by Sandman's bullet which causes his own gunshot to miss Papajohn and kill Ben.
The promoter survives his headwound thanks to a new genius surgeon called Alistare Smythe who installs a revolutionary cyborgian chrome dome into his skull, the promoter becomes Hammerhead and takes over the NY underworld with a large gang of wrestlers(including 'The Grizzly') in a bid to get the 'Spider-man kid' who he blames for his new freakish predicament.
Captain Stacey summons Pete to Police HQ with a speed camera shot of the real, totally true this time killer of Ben.
Unknown to Hammerhead Smythe has installed a Spider-slayer into his metal skull which activates at the first sign of Spider-man, turning the promoter into a large 300ft spider-robot.
This leads to a big fight at the end and a 5min appearance by the Lizard who just happened to be in the neighbourhood chasing meteorites.

Too funny!:D:up:
 
Well that's what I heard was going to happen...who knows with script re-writes etc before January though. Micheal Bay is supposed to be taking over after Rami for 5 and 6, so maybe he will want to handle the Spider-slayer stuff and they'll keep that for the next movie. In any case, good on the movie makers for being more original than AF15 and making Uncle Ben's killer a massive robot, they really should've thought a little harder and come up with that in the first place.
 

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