Microsoft admits to flaw in 360

[ProjectPat2280]

Wow... just turned on my 360 today... Red Ring of Death...

Thank God I got it at Costco so I can return it and get an Elite.

Hah, im hoping my sisters 360 will crap out so she can return it, get an Elite then we'll trade.

I think everyone whose 360 breaks is because they are doing something stupid. Of course when you ask an individual whose 360 went down they tell you that they were taking PERFECT care of it. My buddies 360 went out on him and he swore that he took great care of it, but everytime i was over at his house he had his 360 crammed oddly in a cabinet next to his computer. Maybe its not as tough as other systems, but if you take care of it, you wont have any problems with it, like me.

 

[Havok83]

Thats great and all, but thats only 2 people. I have well over 10 friends with 360s and none of us have ever had problems.

its defnetly true

http://news.spong.com/article/12415

 

[CrAzYMoFo]

Hah, im hoping my sisters 360 will crap out so she can return it, get an Elite then we'll trade.

I think everyone whose 360 breaks is because they are doing something stupid. Of course when you ask an individual whose 360 went down they tell you that they were taking PERFECT care of it. My buddies 360 went out on him and he swore that he took great care of it, but everytime i was over at his house he had his 360 crammed oddly in a cabinet next to his computer. Maybe its not as tough as other systems, but if you take care of it, you wont have any problems with it, like me.

I'm pretty pissed off though. I'm one of those people that takes REALLY good care of my stuff. My 360 is in an open space on wood ground and it had been working flawlessly for over a year and just randomly got the Red Ring of Death. I really can't think of a reason why it would get the Red Ring of Death but I can tell you that if my Elite gets it too I'm going to take a dump in the box it came in and ship it to Microsoft. Then I'll go get a Wii.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm pretty pissed off though. I'm one of those people that takes REALLY good care of my stuff. My 360 is in an open space on wood ground and it had been working flawlessly for over a year and just randomly got the Red Ring of Death. I really can't think of a reason why it would get the Red Ring of Death but I can tell you that if my Elite gets it too I'm going to take a dump in the box it came in and ship it to Microsoft. Then I'll go get a Wii.

Haha, well yea id be pretty pissed as well, but going from a 360 to a Wii, is like going from a Ferrari to a Honda Civic.

 

[CrAzYMoFo]

Haha, well yea id be pretty pissed as well, but going from a 360 to a Wii, is like going from a Ferrari to a Honda Civic.

Yeah... unfortunately Eddie Griffin was driving my Ferrari.

 

[Kritish]

I haven’t had any trouble with my 360, now I wish I would just to get an elite. I don’t think the red lights are that big of a deal, I’d bet that almost all of the people that are getting them are doing something to **** them up. Besides, I’ll take having to go to Costco and get an elite over buying an overgrown DS.

 

[CrAzYMoFo]

I haven’t had any trouble with my 360, now I wish I would just to get an elite. I don’t think the red lights are that big of a deal, I’d bet that almost all of the people that are getting them are doing something to **** them up. Besides, I’ll take having to go to Costco and get an elite over buying an overgrown DS.

Although I'm getting the upgrade I honestly would have preferred just keeping my old 360. Now after my Elite ships I have to fill out the form for the free transfer cable for my HDD and that will probably take a while to ship. The HDMI and the 120gb hard drive are pretty cool but they are not major upgrades that I could not live without. I haven't even filled up half of my 20gb hard drive so I have no clue what I'm going to do with the 120gb one.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

You know what will happen with your friend? He’ll get a new elite from Best Buy..

After several hundreds of dollars spent on replacing his 360s, he's finally decided to not continue supporting Microsoft. And after letting him borrow Ocarina of Time on my GameCube Collector's Disc, he's now a fierce Nintendo fan.

while the Wii owners will be stuck with consoles that work yet have little more than childish mini-games such as Warioware.

I'll take Wario Ware over Gears of War any day of the week, my friend. While you're headshotting you're flabby friends, I'm having fun doing goofy things on Wario Ware with the girls next door. They're cute, and they've been asking me to play with them more often. No children allowed.

When someone buys a Wii they’re really paying for an overpriced DS.

That's actually a complement in my opinion. Every console, including Wii (though to a lesser extent), wishes it could replicate its success. I've had more fun with my DS Lite than with all of my consoles, including Wii (so far), combined.

...But it's really quite sad, people pay A LOT for their 360, only to have it break down on them. I wonder if one day they'll realize that $400 dollars is too much for skimpy single-player campaign modes that are dumped on them, but multiplayer that they have to pay for.

You know what’s the worse thing about that? You can return a console for having poor games?

Eh. Look up the list of the best-rated games of all time on GameRankings. You'll find that not only is the best rated game of all time a Nintendo game (Ocarina of Time), but that Nintendo holds FOUR titles in the top ten, more than any other developer that's represented. Point is, they're the best at what they do, and don't be surprised when Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3 or Super Smash Brothers Brawl ends up on that list.

Enjoy your 360. I'll enjoy my Wii.

 

[Kritish]

I'll take Wario Ware over Gears of War any day of the week, my friend. While you're headshotting you're flabby friends, I'm having fun doing goofy things on Wario Ware with the girls next door. They're cute, and they've been asking me to play with them more often. No children allowed.

So women don’t like games like Gears of War? Where the hell have you been? My girlfriend loves Gears of War more than I do for Christ’s sake. Stop talking out of your ass as you fail to lauch zingers.

That's actually a complement in my opinion. Every console, including Wii (though to a lesser extent), wishes it could replicate its success. I've had more fun with my DS Lite than with all of my consoles, including Wii (so far), combined.

...But it's really quite sad, people pay A LOT for their 360, only to have it break down on them. I wonder if one day they'll realize that $400 dollars is too much for skimpy single-player campaign modes that are dumped on them, but multiplayer that they have to pay for.

So, tell me this. How much are you making on commissions from your Nintendo sales? No one else is buying your propaganda about the Wii.
Now, I’ll get on your ass about the Wii..
Poor graphics: most of the games on the Wii (even the good games such as Twilight Princess) have graphics that look like a high end Gamecube game.
No variety: when I mean this I mean that Nintendo doesn’t know how to make a video game just for adults. Sometimes I think they’re working for Disney.
Stupid controller: I won’t argue with you that the Wii’s controller is unique, but it’s a step in the wrong direction. If you’re not playing a childish game like Warioware and Wii sports you’re using on of the most complex controllers in the world. Just look at SM3.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

So women don’t like games like Gears of War?Where the hell have you been?

t: lol. I find this hilarious, and I'm not sure exactly why. I'm suddenly imagining dozens of girls chainsawing strangers with the bulky, teenage- testosterone inspired characters of GoW.

So, tell me this. How much are you making on commissions from your Nintendo sales?

Aside from the stock market simulation in my Economics class where I'm earning bank off of my Nintendo stock, not a dime.

No one else is buying your propaganda about the Wii.

Hey, I'm not the one hopelessly trying to pass off Gears of War as a game that girls really like.

Poor graphics: most of the games on the Wii (even the good games such as Twilight Princess) have graphics that look like a high end Gamecube game.

That's actually being quite generous. High-end GameCube games like RE4, SSBM, Rogue Squadron, and TP look gorgeous, but the dreck being farted onto Wii by most third party developers at the moment have, as you say, poor graphics. Sure, this is disappointing, as Wii is capable of so much more, but games around the launch window usually are very lacking, 360 being no exception. It also doesn't help that, for the most part, third party developers were completely taken by surprise when Wii proved itself as the market leader that it is now, forcing them to put together quick development teams for sloppy ports.

Eh. I've never been a supporter of third parties much anyway.

No variety: when I mean this I mean that Nintendo doesn’t know how to make a video game just for adults. Sometimes I think they’re working for Disney.

I can see where you're coming from, and hopefully some of the "edgy," more "dark" original IP's that Nintendo is currently working on will be able to accomodate you. That said, Nintendo's big three is represented constantly among the best and highest-rated games of all time. They're definitely worth your time, no matter how old you are.

If you’re not playing a childish game like Warioware and Wii sports ...

They're intuitive and accessible. Does that necessarily mean childish? My adult uncles and cousins play Wii Sports more often than their young children.

...you’re using on of the most complex controllers in the world. Just look at SM3.

It really depends on who's developing the game and how much time they had to refine their control because, really, the same could be said of ANY control scheme. With games like TP, SPM, and RE4 Wii, the control scheme works smoother and better than traditional control. Other games, like Dragon Ball Z and SM3, could have implemented the control better if they had more time. But they didn't.

And that's a pretty fair assessment, I think.

 

[Kritish]

lol. I find this hilarious, and I'm not sure exactly why. I'm suddenly imagining dozens of girls chainsawing strangers with the bulky, teenage- testosterone inspired characters of GoW

So girls can’t play more mature video games? You’re sweeping generalizations are truly comical.

That's actually being quite generous. High-end GameCube games like RE4, SSBM, Rogue Squadron, and TP look gorgeous, but the dreck being farted onto Wii by most third party developers at the moment have, as you say, poor graphics. Sure, this is disappointing, as Wii is capable of so much more, but games around the launch window usually are very lacking, 360 being no exception. It also doesn't help that, for the most part, third party developers were completely taken by surprise when Wii proved itself as the market leader that it is now, forcing them to put together quick development teams for sloppy ports.

Eh. I've never been a supporter of third parties much anyway.

You seem to forget that the Gamecube was a sixth gen console, while the Wii is supposedly dwelling in the realm of the seventh gen. Side by side pictures reveal that the Wii is truly lacking in the graphics category.

I can see where you're coming from, and hopefully some of the "edgy," more "dark" original IP's that Nintendo is currently working on will be able to accomodate you. That said, Nintendo's big three is represented constantly among the best and highest-rated games of all time. They're definitely worth your time, no matter how old you are.

Franchises like Zelda and Mario are mainly coasting on the success that they had from past reincarnations. Games like Mario galaxy have little new to offer. I doubt that they’ll stand a chance against GTA and Halo 3.

 

[Horrorfan]

Franchises like Zelda and Mario are mainly coasting on the success that they had from past reincarnations.

So very, very true.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

So very, very true.

Oui vay. *Looks at Halo and GTA and shakes head*

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Buy a Wii,its cheaper and it wont break on you.

 

[FatA$$]

damn that sux

 

[Horrorfan]

Oui vay. *Looks at Halo and GTA and shakes head*

Admit it, he's got a point. The games haven't changed the formula since time began. I'm not knocking it, if you like that fine, but it's the same basic story with the same basic gameplay with some minor adjustments here and there.

GTA has arguably done more for gaming on a technical level in four installments than Mario has for at least a decade.

 

[Jerry!]

I don't understand the whole problem with the red lights. I had my 360 for about 5 months, got the red lights because of hardware failure, called support, they sent me a box, and within a week and a half I got it back and worked ever since. No spending hundreds of dollars for a new one.

 

[Kritish]

Admit it, he's got a point. The games haven't changed the formula since time began. I'm not knocking it, if you like that fine, but it's the same basic story with the same basic gameplay with some minor adjustments here and there.

GTA has arguably done more for gaming on a technical level in four installments than Mario has for at least a decade.

Oh hell yeah, San Andreas was and still is one of the innovative games to come out. While Halo is up there with Doom in shear quality.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

Admit it, he's got a point.

No, he does not.

The games haven't changed the formula since time began.

True, the core mechanics of these legacy games have been carefully and faithfully represented in subsequent releases (because, otherwise, Mario wouldn't be Mario, or LoZ wouldn't be LoZ, etc.), but they have also been taken to new grounds and have been innovated upon greatly. And these aren't "minor adjustments," but dramatic changes/additions to design that affect the gameplay of the game. There are countless reviews, essays, and articles that gush on the innovative genius of these games and I suggest you Google search.

GTA has arguably done more for gaming on a technical level in four installments than Mario has for at least a decade.

Dear God, no. NO game, Nintendo or otherwise, has ever matched the contributions to the gaming industry of either the original Super Mario Bros. or Super Mario 64. SM64 lead the industry into 3D with it's masterful pioneering of analogue control, camera control, level design, smooth execution, etc. all features that have become industry standards.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/786/786936p1.html

Read it. And please educate yourself. I respect that you've taken an objective approach to the "console war," but it sounds as if you're criticizing Nintendo with not much experience to back it up.

 

[TheGrayGhost]

Oh hell yeah, San Andreas was and still is one of the innovative games to come out. While Halo is up there with Doom in shear quality.

Sigh. I think it's best that we no longer argue or discuss about these things, since we obviously have different takes on what it means to be innovative. Let bygones be bygones. You enjoy your games. And I enjoy my games. So there.

 

[TheCaptain22555]

So far my 360 has been great. Knock on wood.

 

[CrAzYMoFo]

I got my Elite and it is very badass. I got my free transfer cable from XBOX and was able to transfer all my stuff to the new HDD and returned my old ****ty one to Costco. That is why I buy all my **** from Costco.

 

[jaydawg]

I'm amazed how Kritish can turn every thread into some anti Wii rant. Its hilariously lame on so many levels.

 

[Kritish]

I'm amazed how Kritish can turn every thread into some anti Wii rant. Its hilariously lame on so many levels.

This actually was grayghost's fault.

 

[ang_hulk]

If had no issue dealing with customre service and microsfot,they even have a prompt for specific issues they know exsist.if only sony would do that.