Mission: Impossible - Fallout - Part 2

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Serious question... Why is comic relief an absolute necessity? Mind you I grew up with 80/90's action films which most did have humor in them but frankly take something like FIRST BLOOD and cutting the little amount of "humorous" elements it had would not take away much if anything from the overall quality of the film. Or look at the LETHAL WEAPON series. There's humor in 1 and 2 but when even more humor was added to later installments it didn't necessarily translate into overall better films.

So again, I ask... is a certain amount of comedy/humor absolutely necessary? I think that there's a bit of group think going on with the audience these days when it comes to that. Plus... I don't know the trailers showed quite a bit of funny stuff in my opinion.

I'm not saying I want goofball gags or anything, and maybe "humor" wasn't exactly what I meant in my original post, but the action scenes in Fallout are SO intense and SO serious, that at times I felt they started to feel overwhelming. There were even a few moments where I had to remind myself why Ethan was chasing someone/being chased. Obviously a few little jokes from Benji wouldn't have made that any better, but I never felt that way in any other MI movie, except MI2.
 
Unless it's just a bleak tale, most fiction has a little humor to ease the tension of whatever is happening. That's just how most people think.
 
Anyone else find that Cavill wasn't as involved or as cool and badass in this film as the marketing suggests?. Having seen the film I feel that

In almost every fight scene he's involved in he's always losing the fight. In the bathroom scene he got in a few punches and a throw but was otherwise useless. Alec Baldwin was kicking his ass till he got stabbed. Cruise kicked his ass at the end. As for screen time and just general badassness, most scenes he's just in the background looking at people. Very few line's of dialogue and for someone supposedly so cunning and smart he fell for the old mask trick way to easily.

Felt very underwhelming to me given the hype. Maybe it's just me though.
 
Serious question... Why is comic relief an absolute necessity? Mind you I grew up with 80/90's action films which most did have humor in them but frankly take something like FIRST BLOOD and cutting the little amount of "humorous" elements it had would not take away much if anything from the overall quality of the film. Or look at the LETHAL WEAPON series. There's humor in 1 and 2 but when even more humor was added to later installments it didn't necessarily translate into overall better films.

So again, I ask... is a certain amount of comedy/humor absolutely necessary? I think that there's a bit of group think going on with the audience these days when it comes to that. Plus... I don't know the trailers showed quite a bit of funny stuff in my opinion.

Thing is though, real life comes with it’s fair share of humour, even in the darkest times.

Removing all humour from a movie actually makes it less realistic, and more divorced from the real world. The inclusion of humour acts as a grounding mechanism that connects the audience better with the fiction they’re watching.
 
Balfe's Fallout score is a better Zimmer score than Zimmer's actual M:I 2 score. :hehe:
 
Good God that was relentless! While I think the action wasn't on Fury Road level as some critics said it was amazing. And the film was so engaging and fun! All the actors did a great job and the dynamics between the characters were awesome. I usually think movie stars are overpaid but Tommy Gurl deserves all that money for risking his life for our enjoyment

At times he took it so far I actually laughed like when
he was hanging from that elevator with Cavill going up, I was like dude, does he ever stop lol
I didn't read many reviews but I hope Lorne Balfe is getting enormous praise for the score. The music was brilliant, so epic and lovely. It made the film feel very elegant like in that scene
Ilsa was following Ethan and then they had their chat
. I loved how Ilsa was involved in the story, it was like Catwoman to Batman. Very cool. They also have such great chemistry together!

Cavill was very good but they need to stop casting him. The man is so good looking It literally creates plot holes:

Cruise: *explaining the plan on how to deal with Vanessa Kirby's character*
Me: when she sees him she gives him whatever you guys need and her panties and pin number why you need a plan

French police chick: *aiming her gun at Cavill who just smiled at her*
Me: why does French police employ women who are blind as a bat

Goddamn, watching all that abuse his face took was hard. It was as if someone had an explosive diarrhea all over Mona Lisa

also was I supposed to laugh when he got struck by lightning because I ROARED. I couldn't stop laughing for a whole minute
 
Blade Runner 2049, Interstellar, Dunkirk, heck i really like his Man of Steel work too.

Rewatching M:I-2 does remind me that it has my least favorite score in the series for the exception of "injection". If he did one today i definitely think it would sound more like Fallout does.
 
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I enjoyed it, not as much as the last two but still had a good time. I have yet to be impressed with anything I’ve seen Henry Cavill in and found him to be weak here. I loved Bassett’s ‘Amanda Waller’ esque performance, never saw her in Green Lantern but damn she showed up here.
 
If infinity war hadn’t come out this year, this would easily be my favorite movie of the year. Man it was almost perfect. A ride from start to finish and so so so good.
 
Good God that was relentless! While I think the action wasn't on Fury Road level as some critics said it was amazing. And the film was so engaging and fun! All the actors did a great job and the dynamics between the characters were awesome. I usually think movie stars are overpaid but Tommy Gurl deserves all that money for risking his life for our enjoyment

At times he took it so far I actually laughed like when
he was hanging from that elevator with Cavill going up, I was like dude, does he ever stop lol
I didn't read many reviews but I hope Lorne Balfe is getting enormous praise for the score. The music was brilliant, so epic and lovely. It made the film feel very elegant like in that scene
Ilsa was following Ethan and then they had their chat
. I loved how Ilsa was involved in the story, it was like Catwoman to Batman. Very cool. They also have such great chemistry together!

Cavill was very good but they need to stop casting him. The man is so good looking It literally creates plot holes:

Cruise: *explaining the plan on how to deal with Vanessa Kirby's character*
Me: when she sees him she gives him whatever you guys need and her panties and pin number why you need a plan

French police chick: *aiming her gun at Cavill who just smiled at her*
Me: why does French police employ women who are blind as a bat

Goddamn, watching all that abuse his face took was hard. It was as if someone had an explosive diarrhea all over Mona Lisa

also was I supposed to laugh when he got struck by lightning because I ROARED. I couldn't stop laughing for a whole minute
Relentless is a perfect word to describe this.
But in a good way.
I just got back from it.
I was very satisfied.
It was worth the wait.
 
Yes I think Cavill was a bit underwhelming in this. He’s got charm to spare but his character wasn’t as badass promised.

I still liked the Rogue Nation score better.
 
Yes I think Cavill was a bit underwhelming in this. He’s got charm to spare but his character wasn’t as badass promised.

I still liked the Rogue Nation score better.

Expectations for Cavill/Walker went over the moon because of the bathroom fight.
 
I thought Cavill's role was fine. He was a nice sort of anti-Ethan antagonist.

My only problem was his shaky American accent. He still clearly struggles with it.
 
I thought Cavill's role was fine. He was a nice sort of anti-Ethan antagonist.

My only problem was his shaky American accent. He still clearly struggles with it.

Yeah, I saw him as Dark Ethan, too.
 
Yeah, I saw him as Dark Ethan, too.
Exactly. A dark mirror of Ethan, and IMHo a major improvement from Dougray Scott doing a similar archetype in M:I2

My theory on the ending:

Ilsa told Julia that she'd look after Ethan when they had their little moment. To me, the talk beforehand was a clear bit of closure for Ethan and Julia. They've both moved on with their lives, and Julia is happy. Ethan can be with Ilsa now ;) . She can be a part of that world in a way Julia cannot.
 
Exactly. A dark mirror of Ethan, and IMHo a major improvement from Dougray Scott doing a similar archetype in M:I2

My theory on the ending:

Ilsa told Julia that she'd look after Ethan when they had their little moment. To me, the talk beforehand was a clear bit of closure for Ethan and Julia. They've both moved on with their lives, and Julia is happy. Ethan can be with Ilsa now ;) . She can be a part of that world in a way Julia cannot.

That was my take on the ending, too.
 
I loved it. Action packed and adrenaline rush from start to finish. A few nitpicks and complaints here and there but I have to say it's the best of the franchise and one of my favorite movies of the year.
 
I was so excited about seeing the movie that I forgot that my theory about the person in the hospital bed being Max(Vanessa Redgrave) was completely wrong.
Ah well.
Perhaps the shadow of Max will loom large in future installments....).
 
I thought it was really good. Series is 5/6 to me. I think the critics are kinda jumping out of the window calling it one of the greatest action movies of the decade up there with Fury Road and Skyfall. I think Rogue Nation is better than this one. But I'd have to watch it again. IN fact, the only MI film I've seen multiple times is MI3. And I like most the movies but for some reason I don't rewatch.

Anyway the action was great (bathroom scene was my favorite) I thought this movie overdoes it with the betraying and who's on whose side, etc. I also wish Monaghan had more to do.

But I like it and reminded me I need to pick up the boxset to watch the other movies over again. And I will be picking this one up too


I really wonder how long can they keep this going
 
I loved it. Easily one of the best movie-going experiences I have had since Fury Road and honestly as of right now I still can't decide which one I liked more. I get the feeling Fallout will have the most repeat value down the line, but we'll just have to wait and see. The action sequences are stunning and it's pretty clear to me at this point that these movies are purely about the spectacle and god does this one deliver on that in spades. That entire [BLACKOUT]Paris Extraction sequence[/BLACKOUT] was epic from the chase scenes to the editing and the score. As much as I loved the finale particularly the [BLACKOUT]helicopter chase[/BLACKOUT] that scene is definitely the highlight of the film. The rest of the action sequences are really well done aswell including that very hyped bathroom fight.

If I had any complaints it would be that once again the villains are a bit on the weaker side, but that didn't necessarily bother me that much. I also wish they had done more with Cavill, because even though I liked his character the trailers made him out to be a much bigger badass than he really is and that was kind of disappointing. Michelle Monahghan felt really forced in too, but other than that I hope Cruise continues doing these movies until the end of time, especially if they are able to keep upping the quality.

9/10
 
Everyone should see this on the big screen at least once

The helicopter chase was like watching a documentary. I mean that in a good way. It was so immersive. All that lush scenery was breathtaking.

The camera's attached to outside were brilliant

I wonder where the truck part could have fit in.


Minor nitpicks

How did Hunt realize Walker was working with Lane?

Lane just standing on the porch felt like a waste. I know he had nowhere to run but he's just standing there.

It might have slowed things down but I would have liked to have seen something involving how the physicist got captured

This movie got into Hunt's head alot with the dream sequences and the fakeouts

I can't wait to get the blu-ray so I can watch the entire Paris sequence
 
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