Mission: Impossible - Fallout - Part 1

[Spidey220987]

I agree Rogue Nation seems a little tighter. Despite what McQuarrie has said in the press about Fallout really testing Ethan's morals or how he operates, other than a sense of guilt for [blackout]letting the plutonium go to save Luther[/blackout] that all feels a little overstated. To me, we saw his gambler mindset really tested in Rogue Nation, and how free-wheeling he can be when it is someone else's money, as it were, such as when he "takes" the British Prime Minister, but how the cracks show when it is about Benji's life at the end.

That plus, I don't think there is a sequence as elegantly fantastic in any of the M:I films, save the De Palma original, as the Vienna opera house sequence in Rogue Nation. The use of Turandot in the score whenever Ilsa appears is also sublime.

With that said, I think Fallout has better action overall, with McQuarrie just designing the hell out of one triumph after another, so I understand if folks prefer that. Also while Ilsa isn't as enigmatic and naturally intriguing in Fallout, I really do enjoy how their "romance" is completely unstated and just the way they spy on each other in Paris, for example. It is quite amusing in its old school Hollywood subtlety.

Think that occurred mainly during the

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John Lark impersonation and Paris scenes

but it depends how one looks at it. All down to interpretation.

 

[Luigi]

It'll be a damn shame if this doesn't get an editing nom at the Oscars.

 

[Mysteryman]

I read somewhere that Mcquarrie wanted Ethan to get darker and early drafts explored that , But he said that"the movie didn't want to go there."

 

[Spidey220987]

It'll be a damn shame if this doesn't get an editing nom at the Oscars.

I said earlier in the thread that this could get nominations for best:
Picture (Fury Road did so it’s not entirely impossible )
Director
Screenplay
That would be a good category to add as well

 

[Mysteryman]

I heard that during The IMAX screenings that there is a point where the Aspect ratio shifts.
When that happened, did anybody get queasy?

 

[flickchick85]

I heard that during The IMAX screenings that there is a point where the Aspect ratio shifts.
When that happened, did anybody get queasy?

The aspect ratio always changes when they switch to IMAX footage, in any Hollywood blockbuster shot partially on IMAX. There's no reason it should make anyone queasy. It's not like the image gets warped or stretched or anything. There's just...more of it.

 

[flickchick85]

I think McQuarrie emphasizes the team aspect more than any others, including in Ghost Protocol which he co-wrote. I think both the climaxes of Rogue Nation and especially Fallout emphasize a team dynamic more than the first four films.

Yeah, the team is vital in the more recent films, while in the first 3, they seemed totally disposable.

 

[FTCBIRDMAN]

Watched tonight. 9/10 for me. I'll probably put it just a notch over Rogue Nation as my favorite of the series. The last 45 minutes or so was so intense, my palms were sweating. My only complaint and it's minor, is that there wasn't a big heist scene in the movie. There is so much non stop action that I didn't notice until thinking about it after the movie let out. The heist parts of the other movies are usually my favorite parts so I kind of missed that in this one. The action was absolutely breathtaking though

 

[Spidey220987]

Watched tonight. 9/10 for me. I'll probably put it just a notch over Rogue Nation as my favorite of the series. The last 45 minutes or so was so intense, my palms were sweating. My only complaint and it's minor, is that there wasn't a big heist scene in the movie. There is so much non stop action that I didn't notice until thinking about it after the movie let out. The heist parts of the other movies are usually my favorite parts so I kind of missed that in this one. The action was absolutely breathtaking though

Wouldn’t you say the

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Solomon Lane extraction

was the heist?
The plan involved:

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- creating a diversion
- knocking his armoured car into the water
- getting him out the armoured car while under water
- removing the tracking device from his neck and simultaneously inserting one in (although we didn’t know that until later)
- then getting him back to be detained (and released because they knew he’d try to escape and then they could track him to lead them to the plutonium)

It wasn’t explained explicitly like they normally do but it kinda was when

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the Ethan as John Lark imaginary sequence played out during his conversation with White Widow and her brother.

Sorry if that sounds disrespectful, it’s not my intention (“,)

 

[Iceman]

Kinda, except I preferred Ghost Protocol to Rogue Nation :-P

Oh yes t:

 

[jed]

Just got back from a screening. Great,awesome action-packed movie!!!

I really respect Tom Cruise as an actor. He performs most of his stunts and even when he gets injured, he still shows up on set the next day.

This shows how dedicated and professional Tom Cruise is as an actor.

Most actors will just get stuntmen to perform stunts for them, but Tom Cruise would rather do all those dangerous stunts himself.


Also regarding August Walker.... I was

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shocked and surprised that he turns out to be the main villain. But then I recalled an earlier scene and it totally makes sense. Why would August Walker bad-mouth and spread lies about Ethan Hunt to Angela Basset's Erica? Because he is the villain. And in the end, we found out that Erica is working with Ethan Hunt all along

And Alec Baldwin....

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I feel sorry that his character is killed by August Walker

 

[jed]

Also I do like the scene where Ethan

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saves the life of the female cop from the White Widow's brother and his goons"

This movie really shows how heroic Ethan Hunt is. He saves the life of so many people......

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Saving the life of August Walker when he got struck by lightning during that parachute jump, saving the White Widow, saving Luther....

 

[FunkMiller]

Big shout out to Rebecca Ferguson. She’s tremendous. I’d happily watch a movie just about Ilsa Faust.

Somebody at WB needs to throw all the money at her to play Catwoman.

 

[elgaz]

Somebody at WB needs to throw all the money at her to play Catwoman.

This!

 

[Filmfan93]

My only small nitpick for this film (otherwise it's an action cinematic perfection) is that the film was missing a "Mission Impossible sequence" - the one where Ethan really does something insanely difficult to obtain a McGuffin or something else (e.g the laser scene from M:I 1, the Dubai scene in GP or the underwater scene in RN).

It can be argued that the helicopter chase was THAT scene in Fallout, but still...

 

[Elayis]

Why have a twist when not only is it spoiled by the marketing campaign, but is so blatantly obvious within the film itself? And the major death that occurs was predictable.

Rehashing the same “using nukes to cleanse the earth” from Ghost Protocol was uninspired. Hopefully future films will avoid the Hunt goes rogue trope, as I think it’s been thoroughly exhausted at this point. It’s like watching 24 all over again.

Rebecca Ferguson & Michelle Monaghan were largely unimportant and felt like afterthoughts, with Cavill & Rhames’ performances felt almost wooden. Walker’s character also didn’t come off as competent enough to be the evil mastermind the film wanted him to be, especially when he lost his first fight. I will say it was nice to see Sean Harris again, a fantastic actor like him should get more mainstream work (if he wants it, that is).

A lot of telling rather than showing, especially when it comes to catching up the audience on events from previous films. McQuarrie’s never been a very good writer, and his boilerplate dialogue never rose above perfunctory. I will say with this film (as well as Jack Reacher) he’s proven himself as one of the most accomplished action directors working today. Fallout was also a marked improvement when it comes to practical effects, and almost completely masking CGI when it was employed.

One other thing I liked that I wanted to point out was Hunt’s humanism. It’s nice to see an action hero care about the people he’s supposedly trying to protect.

While I may have listed almost nothing but critiques, I don’t want to give the impression I didn’t like the film. I’ll leave listing its better qualities for the other users here. I think the hype was overblown, but it’s the best of the Bad Robot M:I films. However, De Palma’s is still my favorite. As the series goes on the action and stakes may have gotten bigger and bigger, but the more intimate and personal nature of the first film is still my preference.

8/10

 

[harlequinade]

does henry cavill’s arms actually make noise in mission impossible: Fallout?

if there’s any sound editing going on, it’s them having to lower the volume of his arms because of how loud they are.

the sound is real and not even the most impressive thing his muscles do in that scene. It also makes the shirt go from nicely ironed to wrinkled, makes it longer, and it grows a breast pocket. He's got amazing muscles.

the entire film crew died that day from the shockwaves. Tom cruise survived because he's tom cruise. Christopher mcquarrie was behind an 8" thick lead shield, and he still suffered nose and ear bleeds.

 

[Iceman]

Big shout out to Rebecca Ferguson. She’s tremendous. I’d happily watch a movie just about Ilsa Faust.

Somebody at WB needs to throw all the money at her to play Catwoman.

Yeah I’m a fan.

 

[Lone]

Just watched this earlier. The action was unrelenting. I kinda want Tom Cruise to never stop making these but at the same time I don’t want him to run out of luck trying to outdo the stunts. I hope whenever Tom Cruise decides to retire Ethan Hunt, he sticks around to ensure the franchise will keep on being as good as it is and pick a worthy successor.

 

[harlequinade]

I keep reading that new Top Gun movie may have trouble getting insured because of Cruise being so obviously out of his mind committed to his craft So next MI movie would also have trouble getting insurance because of that

 

[Iceman]

Just watched this earlier. The action was unrelenting. I kinda want Tom Cruise to never stop making these but at the same time I don’t want him to run out of luck trying to outdo the stunts. I hope whenever Tom Cruise decides to retire Ethan Hunt, he sticks around to ensure the franchise will keep on being as good as it is and pick a worthy successor.

I’d like him to appear in every MI while he’s alive. When he gets too old to play the lead he can appear as a retired veteran agent.

 

[samsnee]

I agree Rogue Nation seems a little tighter. Despite what McQuarrie has said in the press about Fallout really testing Ethan's morals or how he operates, other than a sense of guilt for [blackout]letting the plutonium go to save Luther[/blackout] that all feels a little overstated. To me, we saw his gambler mindset really tested in Rogue Nation, and how free-wheeling he can be when it is someone else's money, as it were, such as when he "takes" the British Prime Minister, but how the cracks show when it is about Benji's life at the end.

That plus, I don't think there is a sequence as elegantly fantastic in any of the M:I films, save the De Palma original, as the Vienna opera house sequence in Rogue Nation. The use of Turandot in the score whenever Ilsa appears is also sublime.

With that said, I think Fallout has better action overall, with McQuarrie just designing the hell out of one triumph after another, so I understand if folks prefer that. Also while Ilsa isn't as enigmatic and naturally intriguing in Fallout, I really do enjoy how their "romance" is completely unstated and just the way they spy on each other in Paris, for example. It is quite amusing in its old school Hollywood subtlety.

The cinematography in RN, especially in the opera scene, was on point. And I felt the transition in the action sequences were smoother. You went from Hunt almost drowning, then into the car chase, then into the motorcycle chase. It was relentless. Plus, that score



I did like Fallout had the team use the masks again and played a pivotal role in a couple of scenes.

I did laugh a little when Hunt couldn't swing his legs far enough when he was hanging on the helicopter. If only he were a couple of inches taller.

 

[harlequinade]

I’d like him to appear in every MI while he’s alive. When he gets too old to play the lead he can appear as a retired veteran agent.

I don't think such limitations apply to Tom

 

[Spidey220987]

So, what format did you guys choose to view it in?
We had IMAX 3D (don't know why it was in 3D) and that's easily the best option to go for, but I might view it in 4DX soon also, when I've got time.

 

[Spidey220987]

I don't think such limitations apply to Tom

He'll put in his contract to have his face CGI'd over his replacement to take the franchise forward, even beyond his death