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Revenge of the Fallen Movie Critics and their terrible reviews of RotF

Jin Saotome

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The days of action and adventure are upon us once again and the time is now, our time, our genre of movies. I speak of the superhero, cartoon, and video game based movies that are becoming the blockbusters of the new era. Movies like Transformers Revenge of the Fallen are reaching a whole new generation of viewers. Not only do these movies capture the attention of the wide-eyed child but of the adult who grew up on the origins of such comic or cartoon themes. They are the ones who gasp in awe at their childhood brought to life on the big screen and who are now sharing the very characters they loved with their own children.

Unfortunately this is where worlds collide and the bell is beginning to toll. Not for the viewers of today, but of the movie critics of yesterday. Critics like Ebert Roper of the Chicago Sun Times, David Edwards of Mirror.co.uk, Peter Bradshaw of Guardian, and Robert Dougherty of Associated Content. They were once heralds of the arts, grading movies with verbose reviews and strong opinions that captured the attention of their readers. But now they squabble and complain at the offerings of Hollywood like bickering old men. And that doesn’t mean they have to be aged into their fifties, but rather the mentality of their craft has transformed them and placed them outside the usefulness of today’s moviegoing class. They have shown us they are relics of the past by comparing our new generation of action films to their beloved classics.

With each thumbs down and one-star rating they vengefully toss forth, these popular movie critcs threaten the market and future of the genre we know and love. They have no business reviewing movies they do not understand and lack the intelligence and open mindedness to accept such films into the fray. This frame of mind is dangerous and impedes any sort of progress for the future of such films. True enough the critics of yesterday live to enjoy the classics, movies they claim have beautiful insight in to humanity and where a Patsy Cline score can be heard playing in the background. And that’s all well and good for that is their schoolyard playground where they can rule as king of the sandbox. But they fail terribly when they try to grasp the spectacular, or try and understand the love someone holds in their heart just to see their favorite giant robots walk across the screen for the first time. The movie critics will scream and yell, casting down upon the directors and producers of this abomination to Hollywood’s credit.

Yet the very movie they sneer at breaks records and outsells their ‘Casablanca classics’ drawing in millions upon millions of fans. This only serves to enrage the critic and fuel their hateful approach to the review, in many cases going so far as to mock the fans of such a genre. Well enough is enough. Movies like Transformers and Superhero types MUST succeed if they are ever to reach the levels of directing and plot brilliance these critics hold in such high regard. We have only begun to tinker with the tools that allow us to reshape a Camaro into a bipedal humanoid in a split second of screentime. But the movie critics of yesterday do not care about that, they do not care about new genres of movies and the child and his father that so desperately want to see their favorite robots battle it out regardless of how well the lighting was chosen.

The bell has tolled. New blood is needed and a new generation of movie critic must take the place of the aging, bitter ones that cling so desperately to their past films. And if these movie critics of yesterday cannot accept that, they must be replaced by ones who can. You cannot compare movies like Transformers to anything else for they are a new generation of films where the amazing action and intricate plots do not necessarily need to take place on the big screen….they take place in the heart of the fans who enjoy them.
 
Yes. We should replace the Roger Eberts with Ben Lyons. :dry:
 
Brilliant piece. I love satire.

It is satire, right?

And who's Ebert Roper?
 
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Ebert Roper is the love child of both that will then have sex with Ben Lyons and create the antichrist.
 
Four legs good, two legs ba..er...I mean yeah! Down with doz dumass critcs! Wat do tey n0w ab0ut moviez?
 
I hope you're not serious. The fact that Spider-man, Spider-man 2, X-Men, X2, the current Batman movies, and Iron Man were all well-received by most of these grumpy old men kind of shovels of a lot dirt on this topic.

And not too long ago I could have swore these stuffy critics were raving about a fun action movie called Star Trek.
 
I would also argue that, of all the causes to hook your wagon to, Transformers 2 might be a dubious one at best.
 
Why do action movies have to be dumb to be action movies? Sure there are dumb action movies that have nostalgic value to them but now a days when action movies can execute stimulating and interesting story, why settle for less? I dont get this I just want to see **** blow up attitude. S**t can blow up with reason and still be awesome.
 
Critcs can say whatever they want to. Doesnt hurt me.....



and LMAO at "Ebert Roper..."



And as for the above, they dont. But some are. See Commando. Its loud, it's dumb, but it's fun as hell. See The Running Man, it's dumber then Commando, but its so awesome.
 
Ebert has become inconsistent imo. Was he off on this one...nah but he has loved some trashy films and hated some good pieces of cinema.
 
Brilliant piece. I love satire.

It is satire, right?

And who's Ebert Roper?
I've checked out this guys post history and unfortunately it seems that he's dead serious.

I weep for the next generation of film if this becomes the general audiences' way of thinking.
 
You cannot compare movies like Transformers to anything else for they are a new generation of films where the amazing action and intricate plots do not necessarily need to take place on the big screen….they take place in the heart of the fans who enjoy them.

Wait -- you're saying that a movie that DOESN'T succeed in having amazing action and intricate plots onscreen is still a great movie if all the stuff we should be seeing onscreen exists "in the hearts of the fans"? :huh:

If you're the real Jin Saotome of "Jin's Dangerous Toys", I really like your toy customs, but please don't become a movie reviewer, OK? As a giant robot fan, wouldn't you like to see a live action giant robot movie that was a little more coherent and respectful of the subject matter than TF:ROTF?
 
wow.....
1) You know critics are regular people like you and me. THe only difference is that they get paid for their opinions
2) Even fans of the first one such as myself have come out and said ROTF wasnt that good
3) Don't listen to the critics if they annoy you
4) Just because a movie makes alot doesn't mean its good
5) Did you ever think that people just didn't like the movie and aren't trying to be hateful


And OPs like this are why people are making fun of Transformers fanboys
 
A friendly waring to the OP. Given the opportunity, I will hunt you down and kill you without remorse. Brainless morons like you are the very reason movies like TF2 make any amount of money. It is unfortunate to see unsophisticated perverts like Micheal Bay make multi billion dollar films when true directors with REAL talent have to struggle to make their place in the industry.

I blame Steven Spielberg for this. He's the one suggested Bay for Transformers
I'd rather have prequel trilogy Lucas do them instead. At least the man and even the prequels have an air of dignity and class about them.
 
I'm hungover at work feeling like **** but the OP's post made me laugh and now I'm feeling a bit better. At the same time though it makes me sad since I think he truly is serious.
 
I grew up in the 80's and remember how my dad would choose a movie.

He would read the "professionally paid" critics' reviews of the new movies and whichever one got the WORST review by the critics was what he would see. He did this as he felt the critics were always wrong so to him a scathing review meant it would be a great movie and a raving review would be a bad movie. My dad was right with his approach to choosing new movies most of the time.
 
I grew up in the 80's and remember how my dad would choose a movie.

He would read the "professionally paid" critics' reviews of the new movies and whichever one got the WORST review by the critics was what he would see. He did this as he felt the critics were always wrong so to him a scathing review meant it would be a great movie and a raving review would be a bad movie. My dad was right with his approach to choosing new movies most of the time.
I guess your dad didn't go see Raiders of the Lost Ark, Aliens, The Empire Strikes Back, E.T., Raging Bull or any movies like that since they ALL got rave reviews in the 80's. And if he went to the movies that got **** reviews in the 80's that means he went to see Jaws 3D, She's Out of Control, Godzilla 1985, and Howard the Duck.

Yeah, sounds like your dear old dad was right on the money. :up:
 
lol it amazes me how many people are saying: "This movie is not for critics, its for people who enjoys movies"

Sounding like real morons
 
I guess your dad didn't go see Raiders of the Lost Ark, Aliens, The Empire Strikes Back, E.T., Raging Bull or any movies like that since they ALL got rave reviews in the 80's. And if he went to the movies that got **** reviews in the 80's that means he went to see Jaws 3D, She's Out of Control, Godzilla 1985, and Howard the Duck.

Yeah, sounds like your dear old dad was right on the money. :up:

Hate to tell you but some of the movies you mentioned did not get many or even one rave review at first. All the ones you mention were not all well recieved when they first were released. ET took a major beating at first and my brother refused to see it until he realize the negative reviews were wrong. Return of the Jedi got mostly bad reviews but is now one critics use as a comparison as a great fantasy movie.

There were other movie in other genres besides Sci FI and action that got bad reviews by critics that were in actuality pretty good.

If all you can site is action and Sci Fi movies then you need to broaden your horizons a little.
 
wow.....
1) You know critics are regular people like you and me. THe only difference is that they get paid for their opinions
2) Even fans of the first one such as myself have come out and said ROTF wasnt that good
3) Don't listen to the critics if they annoy you
4) Just because a movie makes alot doesn't mean its good
5) Did you ever think that people just didn't like the movie and aren't trying to be hateful


And OPs like this are why people are making fun of Transformers fanboys

:up:

sidenote: i never liked the first one...
 
Hate to tell you but some of the movies you mentioned did not get many or even one rave review at first. All the ones you mention were not all well recieved when they first were released. ET took a major beating at first and my brother refused to see it until he realize the negative reviews were wrong. Return of the Jedi got mostly bad reviews but is now one critics use as a comparison as a great fantasy movie.

There were other movie in other genres besides Sci FI and action that got bad reviews by critics that were in actuality pretty good.

If all you can site is action and Sci Fi movies then you need to broaden your horizons a little.
Haha, OK, firstly:

Raging Bull and Raiders of the Lost Ark are not Sci Fi. And I could have mentioned The Purple Rose of Cairo, Blue Velvet, Fanny and Alexander, Boyfriends and Girlfriends, Ran, Do the Right Thing, Fitzcarraldo, My Dinner with Andre, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Hannah and Her Sisters, The French Lieutenants Woman, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, After Hours, Vagabond, or The Last Temptation of Christ but I doubt that they would have been on your radar.

Also, I didn't mention Return of the Jedi. I said The Empire Strikes Back.

And I think you should do your research on those movies again. Especially E.T.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial#Reception

And Raiders of the Lost Ark was nominated for Best Picture. So was Raging Bull. Although I doubt you've seen the latter.
 
Haha, OK, firstly:

Raging Bull and Raiders of the Lost Ark are not Sci Fi. And I could have mentioned The Purple Rose of Cairo, Blue Velvet, Fanny and Alexander, Boyfriends and Girlfriends, Ran, Do the Right Thing, Fitzcarraldo, My Dinner with Andre, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Hannah and Her Sisters, The French Lieutenants Woman, The Unbearable Lightness of Being, After Hours, Vagabond, or The Last Temptation of Christ but I doubt that they would have been on your radar.

Also, I didn't mention Return of the Jedi. I said The Empire Strikes Back.

And I think you should do your research on those movies again. Especially E.T.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial#Reception

And Raiders of the Lost Ark was nominated for Best Picture. So was Raging Bull. Although I doubt you've seen the latter.

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True enough the critics of yesterday live to enjoy the classics, movies they claim have beautiful insight in to humanity and where a Patsy Cline score can be heard playing in the background.
Is anyone else baffled by this bit?

Did no one ever inform him that Patsy Cline was a country singer? :huh:
 

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