Movies That Aren't Classics,But Should Be.

Is Fight Club on there? If not it should be. Edit: And also the Matrix. I know a lot of people aren't fans of the sequels, but you've got to give the first one its props for being one of the most original films in years.
 
I think the Shining needs to be on there, simply because it did for pyschological horror what Alien did for Sci-Fi horror. It's a milestone in storytelling. Before the Shining, no one really thought you could make a long horror film and expext people to actually care.
 
Is Fight Club on there? If not it should be. Edit: And also the Matrix. I know a lot of people aren't fans of the sequels, but you've got to give the first one its props for being one of the most original films in years.

No matter how good they are, movies only a few years old can't really be analyzed for their lasting impact on film yet. I'm sure there are plenty of amazing movies nobody has seen or remembered that aren't on this list from all through the history of film, putting movies from less than 10 years ago if jumping the gun I think.
 
The Matrix a good film? Sure. Top 100 American films of all time?

Not by a long shot.

Pretty good list by AFI, though.
 
Night of the Living Dead

First movie to feature a black male as the lead protagonist.
 
Night of the Living Dead

First movie to feature a black male as the lead protagonist.

Someone clarify this, but there've been others before this haven't there? I've heard this statement alot, but this can't have been the first. This was certainly important as this was a normal movie where race wasn't a big deal, or even mentioned, but for example "To Sir, With Love" came out the year before, and I'd certainly call Poitier's character the protagonist.
 
Your forgetting a key difference the people who made those lists are SCHOLARS, they study a film for a living, and trust me there's a huge difference between watching a lot of films and studying them...

Scholar is just a title. I agree with most of the listings I study films and just because i don't get paid for it that makes me less credible? I like the list except for the Graduate:o
 
my beautiful laundrette

first on screen gay kiss....
 
I'm not saying the matrix sequals should be called classics but I think their highly underrated.
 
Shoalin Soccer

TOY STORY

Apollo 13

Terminator 1

Terminator 2

pee wee's big adventure

back to the future...



some more if I can think of them
 
I'm not saying the matrix sequals should be called classics but I think their highly underrated.

I think they're rated fine. The movies were no where near as well crafted as the first film. The second one seems like a first draft and the third one at least a second or third... both rushed, both bloated, both full of interesting ideas that weren't well coordinated.

Animatrix could be considered classic perhaps, but not those two big fat movies.
 
To Shuley: Did you intend this to be movies in the top 10 or just on this list? Because you and other people keep pointing out when people name a movie in the 30s or something as if they did something wrong.

I only put the first 10,I wasn't about to write out all 100.
 
Scholar is just a title. I agree with most of the listings I study films and just because i don't get paid for it that makes me less credible? I like the list except for the Graduate:o
It's called being an expert/professional,JUst cause some 16 year old kid down the block plays the guitar and doesn't get paid for it, does that make him a lesser gutair player than Jimi Hendrix? The Graduate was awesome.
 
Scholar is just a title. I agree with most of the listings I study films and just because i don't get paid for it that makes me less credible? I like the list except for the Graduate:o

No, the fact you're not published for it makes you less credible. That's how academia works.
 
I only put the first 10,I wasn't about to write out all 100.

I know that, but your original post said "what should be the Top 10. I, for example, mentioned some movies I thought were on par with those 10, knowing full well (and even putting a disclaimer) that they may be further down on the whole list I wasn't sure. Someone then pointed out two were on the list as if I misunderstood the thread.

I'm just asking if you only meant the top 10 movies that weren't on the whole list of 100.
 
I could see Pan's Labyrinth and Miracle become considered classics a few years down the line... not top 10 of all time classic though...
 
It's called being an expert/professional,JUst cause some 16 year old kid down the block plays the guitar and doesn't get paid for it, does that make him a lesser gutair player than Jimi Hendrix? The Graduate was awesome.

I just watched the graduate again and I enjoyed it I think the fact that Hoffman is nine years older in real life then what he is portraying on screen just took me out of the film the first time. :oldrazz:
 
Here's my list of movies from the LAST 30 years that I feel are worthy of being classics. They are in no order and I'm choosing them not because of popularity or because of box office revenue but based on impact and long-lasting effects they all have had or will have on cinema and the film industry.

- Star Wars
- The Shawshank Redemption
- Schindler's List
- Pulp Fiction
- Toy Story
- The Silence of the Lambs
- Apocalypse Now
- Alien
- Ghandi
- Platoon

Honorable mentions: Full Metal Jacket, The Terminator, Superman The Movie, Brokeback Mountain, Blade Runner
 
AFI just redid their list. Here's the new top 10 actually 12... plus where the two that were in the top ten before dropped down to...

"Citizen Kane" No. 1
"The Godfather" No. 2
"Casablanca" No. 3
"Raging Bull" No. 4
"Singin' in the Rain No. 5
"Gone With the Wind" No. 6
"Lawrence of Arabia" No. 7
"Schindler's List" No. 8
"Vertigo" No. 9
"The Wizard of Oz"No. 10
"City Lights" No. 11
"The Searchers" No. 12.

Both 1967's "The Graduate" and 1954's "On the Waterfront," which ranked Nos. 7 and 8 respectively in 1998, fell out of the top 10, "The Graduate" coming in at No. 17 and "On the Waterfront" finishing at No. 19.
 
Are they your personal favourite ten or what you think are the greatest ten?
A mix of both. There are too many films I have never seen to call that list anything close to 'The Greatest Films Ever -- Period'. At the same time, I've left out my all-star favorites like Conan the Destroyer, Masters of the Universe and The Phantom of the Opera. As good as they are, they just don't walk on water the way Willow and E.T. does.

...And, of course, my list has an obvious fantasy leaning. Fantasy is my favorite genre; that can't be a coincidence.

In the end, however, they are just films. Every now and again, the rolling film falls away and we are seeing something more. I remember you commenting that Peter had the presence of mind to pull Eddie away from the symbiote in SM3. That, for example, is such a moment.

If you can imagine that moment, happening and never losing potency for 2 and half hours, you would have Princess Mononoke. For being a masterpiece of that caliber, I do believe it is the greatest film of all time.
 
The World, the Flesh and the Devil came about ten years before Night of the Living Dead and I'm sure there are others that I'm unaware of that came before it.

Also, are we just doing American films?


No, it's just that a lot of people on here don't watch that much world cinema.
 
godfather.
casino
heat.
batman begins.
singing in the rain
scarface
spiderman
 

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