Movies considered "classics" that aren't that great

[War Party]

I made Movies205's list. Good stuff.

 

[Sentinel X]

Jesus Christ are you dense. He said that you're part of the MTV generation, which, whether or not you watch MTV, you are. It's a shorthand way of saying that you've got the attention span of an ADD two-year-old on candy and crack.

...Your post is exactly what Im talking about. Im part of the MTV generation, huh? .
My generation is called generation Y dick face..Im tired of ******ed people like you who dont know a **** about what theyre talking about but will engage in a conversation based on what other people told them How about you really research what the "MTV generation" means. Someone born in the MTV generation definetly was not born in the 1990, the MTV generation is a split between generation y and x...so the next time you call someone dense how about prove that youre actually ****ing right

Wow, just wow. I'm officially ashamed of my generation

Okay...just ****

 

[Killgore]

...Your post is exactly what Im talking about. Im part of the MTV generation, huh? .
My generation is called generation Y dick face..Im tired of ******ed people like you who dont know a **** about what theyre talking about but will engage in a conversation based on what other people told them How about you really research what the "MTV generation" means. Someone born in the MTV generation definetly was not born in the 1990, the MTV generation is a split between generation y and x...so the next time you call someone dense how about prove that youre actually ****ing right

Okay...just ****

You're what, 16? You're not even old enough nor are you experienced enough to have a world view. You think because you jumped on Wikipedia and looked it up you're an authority. That's a huge issue with many people your age. You rely on unsubstantiated information and lack the ability to research thoroughly. The internet is largely unreliable and incomplete.

There are exceptions, and in this thread they're ANTHONYNASTI and Movies205.

 

[Sentinel X]

What the **** is wrong with you dude?!
I know my generation, its generation Y...you can look in any sociology book and find it, so what is your point?!
Thats the problem with people on the hype...they always want to be right some way and if they're not they insult the person anyway its really pathetic. I never said I was an authority but calling me dense when youre wrong is just plain ******ed. Btw this thread has nothing to do with world views...it has to do with what you think is a classic and what you think isn't. You can have an opinion at sixteen and honestly its arrogant to say I cant because of my age.

 

[Killgore]

What the **** is wrong with you dude?!
I know my generation, its generation Y...you can look in any sociology book and find it, so what is your point?!
Thats the problem with people on the hype...they always want to be right some way and if they're not they insult the person anyway its really pathetic. I never said I was an authority but calling me dense when youre wrong is just plain ******ed. Btw this thread has nothing to do with world views...it has to do with what you think is a classic and what you think isn't. You can have an opinion at sixteen and honestly its arrogant to say I cant because of my age.

You're just arguing semantics without a drop of understanding of the issue. You don't have a "generation." Not yet anyway. Any attempt to define a generation who's senior members are barely 20 is premature. Like I said, you don't have a central world view. That's why there are forty terms floating around to try to capture the commercial potential of teens today, to give them something to identify themselves with so they can fit into some target demographic.

If you're so sure what your generation is, then what pray tell does the Y stand for?

 

[Mr. Socko]

I don't care who says differently. The Star Wars PT brought Star Wars back. If the PT was never made, the new generation would barely know if it. How many other trilogies that started from the 70s and ended in the 80s is still known today like Star Wars is?

And 30 years from now, barely any kids will have a clue to what the Lord of The Rings movies are unless they make more.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Star Wars was huge in the mid-90s long before The Phantom Menace. The revival really started with the remastered versions on home video and peaked with the Special Editions.

How many other trilogies that started from the 70s and ended in the 80s is still known today like Star Wars is?

It isn't a trilogy, but the Dirty Harry series started in the 70s, ended in the 80s, and is still extremely well known now.

Indiana Jones just missed the cut.

 

[Halofan1]

Pulp fiction is very overrated. Bruce Willis' section is exceptionally dull and poorly executed, as is the Uma Thurman story. Quentin Tarrantino seems to come across as a director who appeals to twelve year old boys who think violence is cool. Whilst he attempts to add in subtleties of post-modernist cinema, he lacks the forethought and correct visage of the application, making it more of a meaningless gimick.

Y'know honestly, I agree. It's good writing, but I've seen better. I'd call Reservoir Dogs better if I didn't love Samuel L. Jackson's performance (which IMO, made Pulp Ficiton.)

Pirates of the Caribbean 1 and 2 are two of the most overrated films that have ever been released. Almost five hours of footage between them, and only five seconds of it is remotely good (I do like Sparrow's "It's me front I'm worried about" line.) The rest of it is just the same stuff we've seen before in any other summer blockbuster. I like Depp ok, but here is some of his stupidest work. He was great in Blow and Fear and Loathing but here he's just ******ed. Give me the movie where Ryu Hayabusa shows up and makes Sparrow Sandwiches. I'll see Pirates 3 if they have that.

 

[Kritish]

Star Wars
The Matrix

 

[The Chairman]

Okay...just ****

Translation: I can't put up a coherent argument to defend my point of view, so I must resort to childish internet talk.

There are exceptions, and in this thread they're ANTHONYNASTI and Movies205.

Thanks Killgore.

 

[Gonking]

Star Wars
The Matrix

I love Matrix but isn't a classic yet

 

[Triadkd]

The Departed

 

[Killgore]

Ha ha ha.





















troll

 

[The Chairman]

The Departed

No.

 

[The Dark Defender]

No.

Yes.

That one's too new to be a classic, but definitely one of the most underwhelming of the widely lauded films of the past several years.
It's basically just a typical crime drama. I found it predictable and rather tedious.

 

[The Chairman]

Yes.

That's great. But you're wrong. But hey, you thought Hannibal was better than Silence Of The Lambs, so your opinion is pretty much moot.

 

[Killgore]

Where are all these *****s coming from?

 

[The Dark Defender]

That's great. But you're wrong. But hey, you thought Hannibal was better than Silence Of The Lambs, so your opinion is pretty much moot.

"That's wrong because I don't agree with it." Such a compelling, all too common argument on the Hype.

That's great, but you're wrong. But hey, you thought The Silence of the Lambs was better than Hannibal, so your opinion is pretty much moot.

See, two can play at the old opinion as fact game.

Oh, and before you even bother throwing around statistics and such to back up your viewpoint, look up something known as the bandwagon fallacy.

 

[Killgore]

That's great, but you're wrong. But hey, you thought The Silence of the Lambs was better than Hannibal, so your opinion is pretty much moot.

See, two can play at the old opinion as fact game.

Oh, and before you even bother throwing around statistics and such to back up your viewpoint, look up something known as the bandwagon fallacy.

Like how you use the straw man fallacy?

 

[The Dark Defender]

Edit.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Like how you use the straw man fallacy?

Or original thought, which arrogant elitist snobs ignorantly confuse with the strawman fallacy because you have trouble distinguishing between disagreeing and refuting.

Notice rather than attempting to counterpoint, the first reaction was simply to insult the taste of someone with an opposing viewpoint. Attacking the arguer rather than the argument, yet another common fallacy of debate.

You cannot refute that I found the film tedious or predictable, since I in fact did predict how it would turn out well before it ended and I was exactly right.

 

[Killgore]

OMFG?!?!? Someone is using fallacious reasoning on an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD?!?!?


BTW Hannibal was a silly, unnecessary sequel, both in film and in print. So whatcha gonna do? Double post?

 

[The Chairman]

Where are all these *****s coming from?

Good question.

And I love how Stormyprecious uses the term "Elitist Snob" as if it's bad. If appreciating films with true artistic value and depth makes me an elitist snob, then I'm proud to be an arrogant, overly opinionated elitist snob!

 

[Killgore]

Good question.

And I love how Stormyprecious uses the term "Elitist Snob" as if it's bad. If appreciating films with true artistic value and depth makes me an elitist snob, then I'm proud to be an arrogant, overly opinionated elitist snob!

Correction, an overly opinionated elitist snob who sees Hannibal for the mindless garbage that it is.

 

[The Dark Defender]

No, I'm going to point out it's superb writing, beautiful score, excellent performances, stunning atmosphere, brilliant morality tale element, great blending of interwinding subplots, and all around terrific filmmaking that make it vastly different from SOTL rather than rehashing the same thing as most silly, unnecessary sequels do.
You know, actually discuss things about the filmmaking rather than insult the taste of others, dismiss an opinion I don't agree with as wrong and present personal opinion as fact.

Whatcha gonna do about it? Other than claim "That's wrong because I don't agree with it" in typical elitist snob fashion.

"OMFG?!?!? Someone is using fallacious reasoning on an INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD?!?!?"

Which I acknowledged was rather common, hence making your sarcasm very void.