My Brother Threatened to Kill Me

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Venom Drool said:
again.. its past this point. grasp the idea that we have a mother who has infinite patience.... hes consumed with being right that any attempyt that suggests he is wrong in any shape or form rubs him into yelling fits

Ask him why he can not accept being wrong.
 
i understand how hard it is to explain the situation in full detail unless you live it on a daily basis..but in essence..much of it has t do with him being a spoiled brat...
 
Outsiderzedge said:
Ask him why he can not accept being wrong.
he responds in a fit of rage leaving the table..accusing my parents of always putting the blame on him and never accepting any of the blame at all
 
Jag said:
Sounds like VD and his brother both have a pretty nice deal set up for them while they go to school that may not be fully appreciated by his brother.

Good point. Sometimes, people appreciate what's given to them, and others will mistake a priviledge for a 'right or necessity'.

and if that means throwing him out and making him fend for himself then that might be an option as well.
That solution might finalize the trouble, and his brother would definitely humble himself quickly. It's quite an adjustment.

VD said:
just need to regulate spending actually
Start now and don't procrastinate. That can be a difficult habit to break.

hes consumed with being right that any attempyt that suggests he is wrong in any shape or form rubs him into yelling fits

Some people never come to terms with the reality of imperfection, or the fact that we make mistakes, so when it's highlighted, or mentioned, they do not properly react.
 
brother is home..after talking to dad

came to my room and said

"sorry about what i sad about the killing thing"
 
Outsiderzedge said:
No offense, but experience does not necessarily constitute thought.

Listen to reason?

They haven't even asked him what is bothering him...

I agree, violence should be a final resort,but it's still a resort nonetheless. Not to mention that [I was understanding that] they had already tried reasoning with him before.

jaguarr said:
Pretty much the take I offered on it, too. You obviously had a brother. Anyone who's not a male who had a brother probably isn't fully going to understand this concept. It comes down to dominance in the family structure and sometimes there's only one way to put a stop to the bullying crap that comes from someone who's decided that they're the alpha male and is abusing that position (whether deserved or reflective of reality or not).

jag

Beautifully said. You can only get your lunch money taken so often before you start getting tired of being hungry.


Outsiderzedge said:
I understand fully what you are saying, but I find it stupid. If what you proposed is the case here, then these people, as well as you, are alien to me and I find it hard to care what happens to any of you.

"Dominance" in the family?

What are you? Animals?

Grow a brain and evolve. Then we'll talk.

Stupid, yes. But sometimes unavoidable. Ever hear the phrase "Never argue with an idiot, for he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience" ? Same thing applies.
 
DOG LIPS said:
With what? A sock full of loonies? :huh:

With his fists of fury. :huh: Or a kitchen knife. Or a lead pipe. Or a semi-automatic firearm. Or an automatic rifle. Or a pump action shotgun. Or a grenade. All imported from America. :huh:

Alpha and Omega said:
From my gist of VD's initial post, advising him to engage in an physical conflict with his brother probably isn't the best thing.

It seems as if his brother is potentially searching for reasons to erupt; if he's retaliating at simple, harmless verbal remarks, challenging him could have unwanted consequences . . . incidental serious or fatal injury.

VD should probably confer with his parents before he decided to act or try something like that; if both brothers still live at home, an altercation could unfavorably complicate or escalate matters to an even worse extent. [His parents do not need additional stress or woe.]

If VD's brother isn't open to communication, I seriously doubt a physical beating would influence him. In his mind, it might even justify some opinion or secretive reasoning that he already harbors.

Just my take on it though.

Yessssss, you see it like I see it dude, rule.
 
Yes I did! :( I was like, "A hardcore beating could either straighten him out or make it worse." Or something like that. :cmad:
 
watch your back venom, and ignore him.

i don't know how you don't have any brotherly love, but me and my family never get this CRAZY.
 
Venom Drool said:
brother is home..after talking to dad

came to my room and said

"sorry about what i sad about the killing thing"

Sounds like a start. Maybe catch him in a calm mood and ask him why he would ever say such a thing. And then before he can answer, punk the sh1t out of him and give him a beatdown that will leave him conditioned to turn the other way when he see's you coming! :oldrazz: Kidding! Kidding! Seriously...might be a good way to open up a civil dialogue with your brother and see if you can find out what the hell is going on with him in a one on one setting, because it sounds like the presence of your parents aggravates some of this behavior with him for whatever reason.

jag
 
hopefully things wil lget better and a psychologist will be seen within the next few days
 
well i'll tell you this... i've done most the things you've claimed your brother has done only i was the younger brother, now that does mean i couldn't have kicked my brothers ass if i wanted to. i however chose not to repeatedly. it took massive amounts of self control through the anger i felt not to harm people. guess what my biggest trigger for anger was. dismissing my ideas.


you know what changed. i took my families advice on 2 occasions and almost died twice. this was after i made a suggestions of away that wouldn't result in needless risk of death. after almost dieing twice they tried things my way for once whole heartedly. guess what it worked. now i just make a suggestion and leave it at that. if they do something themselves they **** it up and convieniently forget about it, or can't admit it. i guess they only take advice from me when it's life and death now.

your brother's actually smarter than you, stress just throws him of his game and your behaviour is probably inherently stress inducing. i suggest getting him out of the house but to do things that are calming rather than exciting, more often, and away from the family but bringing the family in at increasing amounts after that but let it just be calming. don't ask questions about things you can't understand through lack of experience. don't judge him by the moment for the moment is insignificant to him. his feelings are based on long term patterns. anyway that's if he's anything like i was at that time. i think i went through that earlier. finding the solution took 10 years. drugs only made me worse, be they illegal or prescribed, or legal without a prescription.

your brother's actually reached peak intelligence for his life span and he's leant alot, he's an adult trying to help people who wont accept his help or don't care. that's his perspective. he's his own man he's not what any of you think he should be. he's his parents equal they should acknowledge that.

i've also got a grandmother who's unwittingly training a dog to bite people. i'm the one who has to point this out. bitings are stopping now.
 
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