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[JewishHobbit]

I had a request for my map of Civil War on another thread. I'm doing it differant than most would think. I like a lot of the story, but a lot of the stuff overlaps. Therefor I'm taking a strange approach. I'm not binding the series issue by issue, but rather page by page. Overlapping scenes and such. It sucks that I did have to get rid of some scenes I liked because the adds/pages didn't line up right, or there's a little continuity error here and there, but overall I'm happy with it. I already have it cut and ready to go and have read it straight through with the below map, I just need to get it bound.

I only included the things I really wanted, or that I felt were important to the story (which is still most of the tie-ins and such). Some signifigant things are that I included a lot of the random Frontline stuff, but took out everything including and leading into the Iron Man scandle and the crappy way they treated Cap in the end. I thought they were both disrespectful and just didn't want it. I also snipped most of the side stories from Frontline (Penance was the main one I kept) including anything Atlantean related, Norman Osborne, etc.

Some continuity issues is that Cap is beat to a tar in the first major battle and in casts and such (the battle where Goliath died) but then there's the convoy scene from Spidey/FF where he's fighting Spidey perfectly healthy, and then he's all casted up again in the next scene. I hate stuff like that but it's necessary. I also have the midnight strike against Luke Cage as the first attack on unregistered heroes, though Frontline also called Prodigy's attack the first attack. Due to previous stories that shared a page with the Prodigy fight it had to be a little bit later, so that's another continuity error, but I loved the scene and had to keep it. And that's all the big ones that I can think of. The map is as follows:

The Civil War Vol. 1: Choosing Sides
Civil War 1 (Beginning - Nitro Explosion)
Wolverine 42 (Wolvie in Bar)
Amazing Spider-Man 531 (final page)
Civil War 1 ("Civil War Part One" - "Is it time for superheroes to be registered? CNN")
Frontline 1 (Beginning - "If it passes, everything changes")
Wolverine 42 ("New York City, New York" - "Smokes Rising")
Civil War 1 (Beating of Johnny Storm page)
Civil War 1 ("The Baxter Building" - The Watcher)
Wolverine 42 (Wolvie and Ironman - End)
Frontline 1 (Speedball - End)
Amazing Spider-Man 532 ("This is the White House Pete" - "God, I just... I don't know what to do.")
Frontline 1 ("Something troubling you Ben?" - "My name is Tony Stark and I'm an alcoholic")
She-Hulk 8 (Beginning - End)
Frontline 2 (Speedball - tripping)
Frontline 3 (Speedball - "best offer")
Civil War 1 ("Washington D.C." end page)
New Avengers 21 (Beginning - "We have to")
Civil War 2 (Beginning - "Cap's Wrong this time")=[';
Wolverine 43-45 (45: Minus the last Page)
Frontline 4 (Speedball minus 1st page)
Civil War 2 (Reed and Sue - "No, just the smart ones")
New Avengers 22 (Beginning - Jessica and Luke kiss)
Civil War 2 ("Registration Act Becomes Law" page)
New Avengers 22 (Luke on street - End)
Fantastic Four 538 (Beginning - Update on Thor's Hammer, and final Thor page with DB)
Amazing Spider-Man 532 (Peter "In a few days, there may not be a Spider-Man anymore" - "Go Get'em Tiger")
Civil War 2 ("24 hours later" Patriot - End)
Amazing Spider-Man 533 (Beginning - "Run me over while you're at it")
Frontline 2 (Beginning - End)
Civil War 3 ("Black Panther/Reed" Page)
New Avengers 23 (Beginning - End)
Black Panther 18 (Beginning - End)
Black Panther 19 (Somewhere over the arctic - End)
Frontline 3 (Beginning - End)
Frontline 4 (1st page)
Civil War 3 ("Stark/Emma" scene)
Fantastic Four 540 (Beginning - "I think their worth dying for")
Frontline 4 (The "Typeface Crew" raid)
Frontline 5 (Speedball - Wonderman)
Iron Man 13 (Beginning - "You're the Director")
Young Avengers & Runaways 1-4
Captain America 22 (Beginning - End)
Civil War 3 ("Secret Identities" - End)
Civil War 4 (Beginning - "Do you ever wonder if we picked the right side here, Hank?)
CW: Choosing Sides (Venom story)
Fantastic Four 538 (Ms. Marvel Vs Silverclaw - End)
Fantastic Four 539 (Beginning - "I... Of coarse... I")
Amazing Spider-Man 534 (Beginning - "All right people, Hit it")
Fantastic Four 539 ("Then let us proceed" - "In about an hour... Urrrrrrp")
Amazing Spider-Man 534 ("As the internal scanners..." - "I don't know about is going out.")
Fantastic Four 539 (Spidey "Uh-oh" - "Holy Crap!")
Amazing Spider-Man 534 (Spidey and Cap - "but man to spider")
Fantastic Four 539 ("Grimm!" - "Booooom!")
Amazing Spider-Man 534 ("Boom!" page)
Fantastic Four 539 ("You've won nothing, Grimm" - Ben Check's Out)
Amazing Spider-Man 534 (Final Page with Cap's Shield)
Civil War 4 (Injured Cap - Thunderbolts)
Iron Man Captain America: Casualties Of War (Beginning - End)

The Civil War Vol. 2: Triumph & Tragedy
Captain America 23 (Beginning - End)
New Avengers 24 (Beginning - End)
Winter Soldier: Winter Kills (Beginning - End)
Civil War: The Return (Sentry Story)
Wolverine 46-47
Civil War: War Crimes (Beginning - End)
Punisher War Journal 1 ("Ka-Foom" - "I Don't" Bang)
Black Panther 22
CW: Choosing Sides (Daredevil/Iron Fist story)
Amazing Spider-Man 535 (Beginning - Tony "No")
Fantastic Four 540 ("Redecorating?" page)
Amazing Spider-Man 535 ("Maybe Later" - "Yeah... A real terrible thing.")
Fantastic Four 540 ("Hole in the ceiling" page)
Amazing Spider-Man 535 (Reed "Why." - End)
Civil War 5 (Beginning - Peter out the window)
Amazing Spider-Man 536 (Beginning - Sewer)
Civil War 5 (Thunderbolts - "Quiet Cage, I'm thinking.")
Punisher War Journal 2 (Beginning - "Reporting For Duty")
Civil War 6 (Daredevil Scene)
Amazing Spider-Man 536 ("Sometime Later" - "You Just Relax")
Amazing Spider-Man 536 (Motel - End)
New Avengers 25 (Beginning - End)
Iron Man 13 (Tony Couch Potato - End)
Iron Man 14 (Beginning - End)
Frontline 6-8 (Speedball stories minus shot page)
Captain America 24 (Beginning - End)
Fantastic Four 542 (Everything except the Thing/Torch/Paris scenes)
Punisher War Journal 2 ("This is the plan" - "Good Wook, Soldier.")
Black Panther 23 (Black Panther Vs Captain America)
Civil War 6 (Beginning - Namor scene)
Black Panther 24 (Ironman/Storm scene)
Black Panther 24 (Black Panther vs Cap - Interviews)
Amazing Spider-Man 537 (Beginning - End)
Civil War 6 ("The Secret Avengers:" - Punisher "What?")
Punisher War Journal 2 ("You murderous piece of trash!" page)
Civil War 6 ("You murderous piece of Trash!" - "Frank Castle Is Insane")
Punisher War Journal 3 (".. Oh come on guys" page)
Civil War 6 ("Stamford, Connecticut" - End)
Civil War: The Return (Captain Marvel Story)
Civil War 7 (Beginning - Cloak taking everyone)
Black Panther 25 ("Attention Embassy" page)
Civil War 7 ("All The Flyers, Grab A Friend, NOW" page)
Black Panther 25 ("Look, you can see the Embassy from here" - Storm "The Wakandans are defenseless")
Civil War 7 ("That's for screwing up the plan, Creep" - "Have At Thee, Vile Traitors")
Black Panther 25 (Thor's arrival - "Wow, what a finish")
Amazing Spider-Man 538 (2nd page of the big battle splash - "Only things worth dying for")
Civil War 7 ("You and me again, Cap" - "That's An Order")
Frontline 10 (Beginning - "Putting Out Fires To Notice.")
Black Panther 25 ("We're On Our Own" page)
Amazing Spider-Man 538 (Kingpin - End)
Amazing Spider-Man 539-543
Frontline 9 (Speedball)
Frontline 10 (Burning Speedball costume - End)
Civil War 7 ("My dear, sweet Susan" - End)


The Civil War Vol. 3: Epilogues Of War
Fantastic Four 543
Civil War: The Initiative
Mighty Avengers 1-6
Captain America 25
Civil War: The Confession
Fallen Son: The Death Of Captain America 1-5
Sub-Mariner 1-6
Thunderbolts 110-115
Penance: Relentless 1-5
Thor 1

 

[JewishHobbit]

Pretty cool, sir!

That's really cool

Thank you Thank you

I know a lot of people may be against these, since you have to cut up the comics to do it, but I'm proud of them. However, they don't loose all value. One guy did a 6 or 7 volume G.I.Joe volume (from the old stuff) and it went on ebay for... I think it was around $400. I thought that was pretty good.

 

[Artistsean]

sorry if you already mentioned this,
but can you tell me exactly where you got these done and for how much?
What company did this?

I have some comics I can do that with too.
Feel free to instant message me about it, if you'd rather do that.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I get them done at Library Binding Company.

That link can give you some information, and if you have questions you can contact that James guy that's listed. He's real helpful and quick to get back with you.

A basic volume is $15 plus the cost of return shipping. Basic volume is 2 inches and under (really, 2 inches or so is when you really start losing art in the spine, so I try to stick around 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inch). No die stamps or anything like that. All of mine have been basic.

 

[Dread]

Those certainly are a lot of CIVIL WAR books, isn't it? I remember I only bought about 2/3rd's of them at the time, and it still came to some 60-70 books. Marvel really milked us on that one, eh?

Even listing some 60-70 comics doesn't quite hit home until you lug out the whole box of them and lay them out on a bed or table for someone else to read. Then it's like, "damn".

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah... I set out my Civil War stuff for a friend of mine and his eyes went wide. He's like... "All this?!"

I laughed.

"That's just the tie-ins and all through issue 4."

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

OK so basically you get your comics cut up and attatched in a hardcover for 15 dollars for 2 inches? How much would it cost for them to color copy the pages of the comics, give them a border so the binding doesn't swallow up the images and give back your comics?

 

[spidey-dude]

i have all those issues and am really tempted to scan them and make a cbr of them in tht order now...

 

[JewishHobbit]

OK so basically you get your comics cut up and attatched in a hardcover for 15 dollars for 2 inches? How much would it cost for them to color copy the pages of the comics, give them a border so the binding doesn't swallow up the images and give back your comics?

That isn't a service they offer, but if you were to do it yourself they would bind them. I thought about it myself but feared the cost of the ink, quality paper, etc. I've seen some volumes online though that were copied. They looked real good. Some people do that to older or expensive comics so they don't tear up their copies.

 

[Artistsean]

This solves some problems, especially for someone like me who buys them to read and the art and not for investment reasons.
I bought all the Hush series, all the Secret Invasion, Red Hulk, several Ultimate Marvel story arcs, and others I can't think of right now,
and now this idea..
I could store them better and use them as reference better.

Thanks for sharing this great idea JewishHobbit.

 

[JewishHobbit]

They also look nicer on shelves than the white boards. My wife let's me put them in the living room now and people always appreciate them, even the non-comic fans.

 

[Sentry2k2]

how much does it cost to ship and to bind each volume?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Shipping varies on how much you send and how far away you are from Waco, TX. The binding cost is $15 provided you do the basic bind (which is what I do). There's a $30 minimum order, so 2 volumes at least. I'd estimate the 2 volumes would cost maybe $35-$45shipping both ways, but I could be wrong. I've never been good at shipping prices.

You could always try to find a local bindery and save that charge also. I just don't have any near me.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Still pimipin' this, eh, J?

 

[JewishHobbit]

I've had a few questions on several threads, so I thought I'd just update this thread and bring them all here. Personally, I love this binding thing. I came accross some money a while ago and had nearly 30 volumes prepped and ready to be bound. Then we hit some money issues and I had to move that money over to our bills and such. Family first and all that. Eventually, everything I own will be on my shelf in one bound form or another.

 

[JewishHobbit]

And just for the fun of it, the volumes I was planning on binding was:

13 volumes of X-Men. This is the main core X-Men/Uncanny X-Men titles with other X-Title tie-ins where needed to better inprove the story. It ran from Uncanny X-Men 381/X-Men 1 through the end of Onslaught.

7 volumes of Avengers. This tied in New Avengers/Mighty Avengers/Thunderbolts/etc. starting at Civil War (because I'm missing a bunch of stuff prior) through the end of Secret Invasion.

2 volumes of Darkhawk (the whole 90's series)
1 volume of Death's Head II (of a 2 volume run)
2 volumes of Daredevil (Bendis' entire run)
2 volumes of X-Men 2099 (Beginning through 2099 World of Tomorrow)
2 volumes of Spider-Man (the next 2 volumes of the Clone Saga)
2 volumes of Fantastic Four (first 2 volumes for my 90's run, starting at 355, tieing in Fantastic Force and Namor)
2 volumes of New Warriors (1st 30 or so issues of the 90's series plus tie-ins and guest stars)
1 volume of Weapon X (the series, starting in Wolverine, then Deadpool, then back to Wolverine I think, then the oneshots, and the series through the "Underground" arc.)

So I guess that was 34 volumes. Man, I wish I could have sent those out. Stupid economy catching up to us.

 

[spidey-dude]

im a fair way into my digital version of the civil war map now, luckily a mate hate a few digi versions of the issues already so i have less to scan, i have made a few changes to your exact layout (cant remember what exactly) and edited some on photoshop so there arnt any to be continued or title pages

 

[JewishHobbit]

Awsome. Anything to encourage someone else to get into this. It really is rewarding when you get it back and you can thumb through it.

 

[spidey-dude]

itll be nice to read through when i get the order down, not up for cutting all those issues up though, I dont buy many comics n civil war is one of the only compete sets of anything I have

 

[Artistsean]

Hope you don't mind if I post the volumes I was thinking about binding:

I think I have all of Civil War (the main book)
Batman: Hush
Red Hulk (up till the most recent)
Ultimate Spider-Man (most of the beginning until around Gwen Stacy)
Ultimate X-Men (up till around the same time as Spider-Man)
Ultimates 1
(Most of Ultimates 2)
Secret Invasion (main book)
The Good Guys
Most (maybe all) Prime
New X-Men: Here Comes TomorrowExiles (up till Mimic left I guess)
Batman/Superman: Public Enemies (I hope I have them all)
(Several Green Lanterns after Rebirth)
The Tick (many, although I don't know if I want to cut them up.)

I probably have many more, but those are the ones I can think of right now.
It will be nice to have these in book form, easier access to them and tightier too.
and I have no problem with cutting them up, not really anyway.

Is it OK if I keep track of my list here?

 

[hippie_hunter]

That is really cool JH. I wish Marvel did something like that for hardcovers.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Is it OK if I keep track of my list here?

Hey, that's fine with me. This can be for anyone who wants to bind. I'm not greedy

Batman: Hush

I've considered this myself but I don't like doing them so small. I usually try to get at least 18 issues, though I prefer 25-30 issues per volume. Due to the Jason Todd tease in this story, and Joker's role, I thought it'd be cool to do the arc where Jason Todd dies, then the Killing Joke, then this, then the story when Jason Todd really does return. As one story I thought that'd be good.

Ultimates 1
(Most of Ultimates 2)

Definately doing this sometime myself. I have all of the 2nd run but not the first. The only question is do I want these alone and leave it at that (in 1 volume) or to include other Ultimate stories like the Ultimate Galactus story, Ultimates 3, Ultimatum, maybe Ultimate Six or Ultimate War, etc.

Secret Invasion (main book)

I also have this laid out in a page by page read-order with only the stuff I want. I can post it if you like.

Most (maybe all) Prime

I'm curious about Prime and the Malibu/Ultraverse in general. I have some of the All New Exiles and a few random issues of Rune and such, but I'm hoping to eventualy get more. I hear Prime was really good.

Exiles (up till Mimic left I guess)

I'll probably eventually do this myself but not immediately. I liked it up until when Blink left the 1st time. After that it trailed a bit, then after Mimic and Morph died/written out I just stopped reading.

(Several Green Lanterns after Rebirth)

I'm working on this one myself. I'll be tieing in Rebirth, Green lantern, and Green Lantern Corps... and probably Ion, Rann Thanagar War, Infinite Crisis, etc. I haven't really figured out how I'm doing it though so I don't have much insight to offer on this one.

The Tick (many, although I don't know if I want to cut them up.)

Loved the old cartoon and always wanted to read some comics but just never got around to it. I'll do it eventually.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Definately doing this sometime myself. I have all of the 2nd run but not the first. The only question is do I want these alone and leave it at that (in 1 volume) or to include other Ultimate stories like the Ultimate Galactus story, Ultimates 3, Ultimatum, maybe Ultimate Six or Ultimate War, etc.

How much Ultimate Marvel do you have?

 

[RAMORE]

Aw JH your doing Darkhawk you are a man after my own heart Prime was pretty good in the beginning as was prototype and Mantra I thought. I'm seriously thinking about this. I mostly buy trades now and then donate them the Library in honor of my brother who was killed in Iraq but I know some stories I love are never gonna be worth anything. Like Darkhawk, Nightwatch and Guardians of the Galaxy which I have the whole run of all three.

 

[random_havoc]

Hope you don't mind if I post the volumes I was thinking about binding:

I think I have all of Civil War (the main book)
Batman: Hush
Red Hulk (up till the most recent)
Ultimate Spider-Man (most of the beginning until around Gwen Stacy)
Ultimate X-Men (up till around the same time as Spider-Man)
Ultimates 1
(Most of Ultimates 2)
Secret Invasion (main book)
The Good Guys
Most (maybe all) Prime
New X-Men: Here Comes TomorrowExiles (up till Mimic left I guess)
Batman/Superman: Public Enemies (I hope I have them all)
(Several Green Lanterns after Rebirth)
The Tick (many, although I don't know if I want to cut them up.)

I probably have many more, but those are the ones I can think of right now.
It will be nice to have these in book form, easier access to them and tightier too.
and I have no problem with cutting them up, not really anyway.

Is it OK if I keep track of my list here?

Urgh, so YOU'RE one of the people buying the Red Hulk comics. Shame on you. Just... shame.

Ok, I'm only half serious.