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nice, loved how you ended it: Magneto "... I love this one"
 
it just pisses me off so bad that they changes Cyclop's optice blast in that movie. since day one its been a concussive force that does not give off heat and they turn it into a laser.
 
it just pisses me off so bad that they changes Cyclop's optice blast in that movie. since day one its been a concussive force that does not give off heat and they turn it into a laser.

Actually i thought that was quiet clever because i thought if you wanted a thread to bring in Sinister at anypoint. You could explain that Cyclops power was out of control until Sinister was able to fix him. The result is a non-flame lazer in x-men 1.
 
Actually i thought that was quiet clever because i thought if you wanted a thread to bring in Sinister at anypoint. You could explain that Cyclops power was out of control until Sinister was able to fix him. The result is a non-flame lazer in x-men 1.
yea im not crazy about that either. sure bring in Sinister and his obsession with Cyclops, but why would he want to "weaken" his favorite subject. his whole thing is to exploit his power.
 
yea im not crazy about that either. sure bring in Sinister and his obsession with Cyclops, but why would he want to "weaken" his favorite subject. his whole thing is to exploit his power.

No

Although sinister was obessive of finding or creating the ultimate mutant, his whole ethoes was not to Exploit mutant power...

Alot of people have a hugh misunderstanding of what Sinister is and does.

Dr.Nathaniel Essex saw mutation as something wonderful and beautifle, however he was not blessed with an ability. So through his experiments (Bearing in mind he comes from the early 19th centry) testing on mutants would of first started. Cruel perhaps but thats what science was back in that era. Now if you suddenly became immortal would your ethics of science change or would you try to keep things the way it was when you were less regulated?

Dr.Essex managed to find alot of things with mutant research and because of this he was able to make himself a Mutate. Human genome Alterd to mimic mutants dna.

Essex's Ethoes is this, Mutant is what evolution is, however humans are born non-mutant gene's are missing that ability and thats what he works towards, making everyone a mutant, well not making everyone but giving the option that anyone and everyone if they wanted could be a mutant.

BUT

Essex is a man of science, and if you read anything from the comics, cartoons...etc He doesnt like Genetic failer... the imperfect. His image of Mutation is that it leads to perfection within the species. When you get mutants that abilities are just dull, rubbish, serve no purpose. Then Essex judges them genetic freaks and he wants to rid the planet of that. "Which is what the Mutant Massicure was all about" again to anyone born in this century it woudl be unexceptable but Essex was born in victorian times and immortally his views has never changed.

Now what all this has to do with Cyclops is that, if you look into Gambits origin, Sinister helped gambit with his power because his mutant ability was too powerful, he couldnt not touch anything without it blowing up. So Sinister removed part of Gambits brain to allow him to be able to control his ability... thats what sinister does, but the way he does these things are soo unethical. Which is why he is a villian, but with his own vision... Just how Magneto is a villian but he has his own vision.

So when i see this with Cyclops and his burning lazer well look at it this way, you ask why would sinister dull down his power. He didnt, look at x-men 1 Cyclops blast is still powerful but no flames. He has perfected it... well almost.
 
I would jprefer to pretend the lazer eyes just never happened. Nor was Wolverine able to reflect them with his claws.
 
I would jprefer to pretend the lazer eyes just never happened. Nor was Wolverine able to reflect them with his claws.
ha! didnt even realize that until now. the power to punch a hole through a mountain and they get reflected by a 6-foot-tall canadian wearing a shrunken wife-beater.
 
The lazer did reflect back from wolverines claws but you got to think Physhics here... If Deadpool was flying that lazer at any other angle the lazer would of reflected off to an angle. But wolverines claws where raised towards his face so deadpool's lazer and wolverines claws were at level point... if the lazer was to reflect it would just move back towards Deadpool but decipate before it would reach him. Its like someone throwing a stream of water at you, but you send the salmon to head upstream... slower pace return.
 
I can't believe someone is trying to argue the physics of Wolverine's claws reflecting optic blasts.

Wolverine's claws gap-filled claws are able to perfectly reflect Deadpool's beams to him and they're even able to do it without spreading any stray beams any where. Deadpool's beams are exactly the length needed for Wolverine to block them even though they aren't in any other scene. Nor is Deadpool able or willing to extend the length or just shoot a different part of Wolverine's body. Wolverine is able to shoot back Deadpool's beams back at him by thrusting his arms forward. You're seriously trying to argue this all makes perfect sense?
 
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im not even talking about reflecting of the beam. how much force does it take destroy a mountain/rock/concrete/whatever?...some metric tons of pressure im assuming. you wanna tell me a man can stand his ground against that same amount of force, especially without the restraint of Scott's visor?
 
im not even talking about reflecting of the beam. how much force does it take destroy a mountain/rock/concrete/whatever?...some metric tons of pressure im assuming. you wanna tell me a man can stand his ground against that same amount of force, especially without the restraint of Scott's visor?

I only argued the reflection because Onion was trying to claim it makes sense physics-wise. EVERYTHING about that scene was awful. They couldn't have made a lamer and more non-sensical scene if they tried. I'm surprised people don't bring it up more. It's definitely one of the most objectively bad scenes in the X-Films.
 
oh yeah i knew you agreed. when you mentioned the reflection it didnt even pop in my head. im so happy i was able to fight the nerd in me and avoided buying this movie. i usually give in and thats why i have spider-man 3 and ghost rider on my shelf.:doh:
 
Nerdy topic of the week... Hahahaha

Oh adamantium is the strongest known metal in the marvel universe. Cyclops lazer is depowered by the ruby quartz crystal, why? Because cyclops is solar powered believe it or not. His energy comes from the sun. Where as lets not forget Adamantium came from a alien poo from space. Hell it could be kyptonite the way the story went.
 
and the rest of his body can handle the force? just because adamantium is "allegedly" able to withstand the power of an unrestrained optic blast, doesn't mean the rest of him can. when that force hits his claws its need to go somewhere (i.e. his hands to his arms to his shoulders to his body).
 
the metal ways him down
and is he weighed down whenever he walks, runs, crouches, and jumps around? he should be weezing everywhere he goes if it was truly that heavy. ive never seen that as a factor when people write Wolverine. and isn't adamantium also praised for being light-weight?

Wolverine standing his ground against an optic blast is literally like someone trying to stop a tank launched from a catapult. i dont care how strong you are, how heavy you are, or how steady for stance is.....that is going to know you off your feet.
 
wolverine can compensate for lifting his weight, he is well muscled and his mutant ability makes pain probably more durable so the weight wouldnt be a problem, But if someone tried to pick him up or move him, it would be like trying to move a giant paper weight.
 
wolverine can compensate for lifting his weight, he is well muscled and his mutant ability makes pain probably more durable so the weight wouldnt be a problem, But if someone tried to pick him up or move him, it would be like trying to move a giant paper weight.
being well muscled doesnt mean he can stand his ground against a force like i described. and having a sped up healing factor doesnt make him invulnerable to pain. hed feel it, endure it, and then his body would heal (regardless if were talking about today's amped up version or his original take-3-days-to-recover-from-a-bullet-wound version).
 
I agree, the whole changing his powers from optic force to heat inducing was lame, they so didn't do their research and/or goofed... and the whole Wolverine reflecting them with his claws was ridiculous, it's not like it was a beam of light... supposed to be an optic force, (if I'm not mistaken) capable of tearing a whole in the roof of a train station, and even when deflected by Phoenix was enough to damage the ENTIRE dam in Alkalai lake, yet 1 man, Wolverine, can stand his ground and reflect it...
 

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