New G.I. Joe Details

[Heretic]

The file card on Snake Eyes is hardly an issue. The Joes themselves knew very little about the guy, so it added to the mystery.

And what is this about Gi Joe Reborn??? I'm talking Gi Joe: A Real American Hero. I'm talking the classic 80's. Some company can take those characters and trn them into aliens, it still wont affect that this movie should be based on the 80's era of Joe.

 

[Hotwire]

The file card on Snake Eyes is hardly an issue. The Joes themselves knew very little about the guy, so it added to the mystery.

And what is this about Gi Joe Reborn??? I'm talking Gi Joe: A Real American Hero. I'm talking the classic 80's. Some company can take those characters and trn them into aliens, it still wont affect that this movie should be based on the 80's era of Joe.

You yourself said the filecards were an issue, now they're not. Make up your mind.

On a side note, thing that should show up in the films because they are in the comics.
Billy, Cobra Commander's son.
Zartan assuming Rip Cord's identity.
A giant Cobra robot reaking havok int G.I. Joe HQ.
Snake-Eys is seen without his mask.
Zartan kills Serpentor.

 

[Heretic]

No, the filecard for SNAKE EYES isnt an issue. When I was a kid and it was revealed in the comics that he was a ninja and blah blah blah, I simply explained it to myself that the Joes themseleves didnt know much about Snake Eyes and basically just went with the info that Stalker knew about him (military training etc). I kept all of the filecards on hand during my years collecting the toys and would refer to them often in order to enhance my battles with the toys (GOOD LORD I WAS A DORK!!!!) and it never bothered me that Snake Eyes filecard didnt have all of his info...hes a mystery man...it shouldnt reveal everything.

As far as the other things you listed...
Serpentor isnt in the film as far as I know...I cant stand the character personally...but if they have him in a sequel, then sure, have Zartan kill him.
Snake Eyes face was shown unscarred while he was wearing shades and stuff in flashback scenes...I actually would have no problem with them showing his full face before he got burned.
Billy was a cool character...but not as cool as Quinn...in fact...I want Scarface in the movie!!!

 

[Hypestyle]

too bad that Stalker isn't in the film (yet?).. he had legitimate history with Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes back in vietnam-- updated to the Gulf War here I guess..

 

[Heretic]

That is a violent rape against my childhood. Stalker was one of the most important Joes on the team. Except in the cartoon, where Snake Eyes origin really didnt matter and Stalker was a bit player in one season.

 

[Hotwire]

No, the filecard for SNAKE EYES isnt an issue. When I was a kid and it was revealed in the comics that he was a ninja and blah blah blah, I simply explained it to myself that the Joes themseleves didnt know much about Snake Eyes and basically just went with the info that Stalker knew about him (military training etc). I kept all of the filecards on hand during my years collecting the toys and would refer to them often in order to enhance my battles with the toys (GOOD LORD I WAS A DORK!!!!) and it never bothered me that Snake Eyes filecard didnt have all of his info...hes a mystery man...it shouldnt reveal everything.

As far as the other things you listed...
Serpentor isnt in the film as far as I know...I cant stand the character personally...but if they have him in a sequel, then sure, have Zartan kill him.
Snake Eyes face was shown unscarred while he was wearing shades and stuff in flashback scenes...I actually would have no problem with them showing his full face before he got burned.
Billy was a cool character...but not as cool as Quinn...in fact...I want Scarface in the movie!!!

But what about the giant Cobra robot???

 

[Heretic]

Im not really recalling a giant Cobra robot from the marvel run of the comic...but Im sure something idiotic like that would be possible as a toy tie in (I cant think of any giant robot toys either).

I assume GI Joe is in a weird position with technology...I expect(ed) the series and toys to be slightly ahead of what we had available. I was kind of okay with the BATS and other hi tech stuff...actually it bothered me much more that Roadblock was firing two huge machine guns at once because I didnt think that was possible. Dont get me started on Zartan changing colors...

 

[Hotwire]

Im not really recalling a giant Cobra robot from the marvel run of the comic...but Im sure something idiotic like that would be possible as a toy tie in (I cant think of any giant robot toys either).
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe3.shtml

I assume GI Joe is in a weird position with technology...I expect(ed) the series and toys to be slightly ahead of what we had available. I was kind of okay with the BATS and other hi tech stuff...actually it bothered me much more that Roadblock was firing two huge machine guns at once because I didnt think that was possible. Dont get me started on Zartan changing colors...

Wasn't it in the comics? Oh, and you have to have a Transformers cross-over as well.

 

[Heretic]

Oh yeah! That was ridiculous! thats funny...and from the comics! Even larry hama had some boneheaded ideas...

But like I said, I can understand Cobra being ahead of the real world technologically. I am sure that our current government has advanced technology that we dont know about. that robot in the comics just looks stupid, but otherwise, Im cool with tech advances that arent just WAY WAY stupid. Cobra-La would be over the top, for instance. Actually so would Serpentor, and like isaid, i hated him.

 

[Kokoryu1]

No matter how you slice it, this movie is going to blow chunks.

 

[Blade X]

And what is this about Gi Joe Reborn??? I'm talking Gi Joe: A Real American Hero. I'm talking the classic 80's. Some company can take those characters and trn them into aliens, it still wont affect that this movie should be based on the 80's era of Joe.

True, not to mention the fact that G.I. JOE RELOADED was a sales flop that is pretty much ignored and forgotten by Hasbro and many JOE fans.

 

[Kokoryu1]

Screw Reborn, Sgt. Savage, Sigma Sux, Eco warriors, Ninja Wars and Extreme. They were all crap. They had a chance to do the right thing with this movie but they refused to do so. The folks who wrote this turd have never picked up an issue of the comic or spoke to Larry Hama. Larry was there to give his opinion and then to be ignored.

 

[mr. peasant]

Screw Reborn, Sgt. Savage, Sigma Sux, Eco warriors, Ninja Wars and Extreme. They were all crap. They had a chance to do the right thing with this movie but they refused to do so. The folks who wrote this turd have never picked up an issue of the comic or spoke to Larry Hama. Larry was there to give his opinion and then to be ignored.

That is a very strong accusation you're making. As far as we know, we've had no solid information either way regarding the magnitude of Hama's work. The only thing mentioned was that the movie had his approval. Furthermore, it's impossible to say what is actually the 'right' thing to do, that the movie version (which is set in a separate universe and not related to either the cartoon or the comic continuities) will be utter rubbish to the audience or that the comic version would be well received by anyone other than those fans wanting an exact, word for word rendition of the comics onto the cinema screen.

 

[Antrax255]

Why are they making G.I. Joe into a team of super armor soldiers I mean come on they are simply human soldiers not the X-men G.I. Joe by todays standards is the easiest of all adaptations being that it is already grounded in reality.

 

[Kokoryu1]

That is a very strong accusation you're making. As far as we know, we've had no solid information either way regarding the magnitude of Hama's work. The only thing mentioned was that the movie had his approval. Furthermore, it's impossible to say what is actually the 'right' thing to do, that the movie version (which is set in a separate universe and not related to either the cartoon or the comic continuities) will be utter rubbish to the audience or that the comic version would be well received by anyone other than those fans wanting an exact, word for word rendition of the comics onto the cinema screen.

A word of warning for the pseudo intellectualls. Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they all stink.

Mr. Peasant you are welcome to your wait and see stance. But those of us who tend to try to make some semblence of order from chaos don't often induldge in that luxury. Do you have to see the lights of the train to get the off the tracks?

You are quick to quote me and try to nay say my "opinion". Everytime I happen to log on to SSH I see something I've written in quotations and beneath that a statement written by you denouncing or over-analyzing my opinion. Here it is again so you can finally get the point "MY OPINION". These are my opinions, mostly.

Read the posts in here if you think I'm the vocal minority. Some say they couldn't apply the original RAH mythos as the characters pasts and storline? Why not? Are the writers in Hollywood so busy or inept that they can't read a few issuses of a comic and then translate it to a script? That's tantamount to putting a regular basket ball in front of someone and telling them to describe it on paper. Hmmm..Round and orange with black stripes. Doesn't seem too difficult. Of course some will describe the grip bumps and others the pin hole but in general anyone who reads the desciptive will know what it is. The work's been done for you. More transcribing than anything else.

Change to contemporize, not personalize. Alter to modernize, not unecessary revise.

When was the last time you actually read a G.I. Joe RAH comic? For that matter are you even a fan? These questions arise from MY OPINION.

Pure and simple, this movie is gonna suck. In my opinion.

 

[mr. peasant]

A word of warning for the pseudo intellectualls. Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they all stink.

Mr. Peasant you are welcome to your wait and see stance. But those of us who tend to try to make some semblence of order from chaos don't often induldge in that luxury. Do you have to see the lights of the train to get the off the tracks?

You are quick to quote me and try to nay say my "opinion". Everytime I happen to log on to SSH I see something I've written in quotations and beneath that a statement written by you denouncing or over-analyzing my opinion. Here it is again so you can finally get the point "MY OPINION". These are my opinions, mostly.

I apologize if I singled you out. It was never my intention to do so. I, for the most part mainly read the comments without it really registering in my head which poster said what.

While you're very much welcome to your opinion, I simply think it's worth remembering that there is normally a reason behind decisions, even bad ones. Likewise, there has to be a reason why all adapted movies aren't ever completely faithful to the franchise it is adapting from (with the exception of remakes). Maybe it is due to lack of investor confidence? Maybe the writers feel the pacing of the original stories isn't suitable for the movies? Maybe it's the fear that being too faithful will alienate the non-fans? I know these are all merely speculations, of which I don't assert any are the actual reasons. I'm merely pointing out the possibilities and that there is likely some logic behind the decisions the filmmakers have made. They're not going to make them on a whim, especially with hundreds of millions at stake.

As for the majority/minority view here, it doesn't really matter since the population in this forum, let alone this thread, is too small and skewed to provide an accurate representation of the opinion of the total audience that the movie is trying to reach.

 

[Fettdave]

Why are they making G.I. Joe into a team of super armor soldiers I mean come on they are simply human soldiers not the X-men G.I. Joe by todays standards is the easiest of all adaptations being that it is already grounded in reality.

Hey, at least it's black armor. Remember the series of figures that came out toward the end if the original run with the orange and yellow play-doh armor molds. Wouldn't that look great in the movie!

http://www.yojoe.com/action/93/93card/gungho5.jpg

Actually, I think that is actually Brendan Fraiser's suit for the movie!

 

[forsakenfilmz]

Wow x-men 4! The costume suck! Baroness has sunglasses. Storm Shadow looks like he's going out to dinner. Hawk looks like Flint. The Joes look like Cobra!!!! ALL BLACK costumes< NO FLAGS! There is no camo, ok... Covergirl. I am making a fan film, it's costing me about 5000 and my movie costume look amazing to this. I'm really upset that Hollywood has to screw up. O yeah why is Duke brown hair?

 

[mr. peasant]

As stated many times already, the reason for the 'all black, no camo' look is twofold. Firstly, there's the preconceived Hollywood notion that 'black = cool'. Secondly, it is the design that the real military developers are going with in designing military uniforms as part of the Future Soldier projects. In fact, their designs are somewhat reminiscent of that pictured below:

As for Antrax255's comment about G.I. Joe being grounded in reality, that's only partly true. For the most part, G.I. Joe technology always fell within the realm of science fiction. From the cartoon's Synthoid technology (essentially a form of nanobot technology before the latter term became commonly used) to the jet packs, etc. Joes and Cobras used, a lot of it were derived from experimental technology (if not entirely from the creators' imagination). Hence, it's no surprise that the movie Joes will be similarly equipped with the latest experimental technology currently in research.

 

[Heretic]

Since theres a suit that creates invisibility for Scarlet, then why not a flaming suit for Flint, and stretch suit for Duke and a rock suit for Ripcord?

Oh yeah...those suits would make the team seem too much like superheroes. The ones that just have them jump really high, run super fast and become bulletproof are fine...

(saracasm mode turned off)

 

[Hotwire]

Since theres a suit that creates invisibility for Scarlet, then why not a flaming suit for Flint, and stretch suit for Duke and a rock suit for Ripcord?

Oh yeah...those suits would make the team seem too much like superheroes. The ones that just have them jump really high, run super fast and become bulletproof are fine...

(saracasm mode turned off)

I wonder how you would feel if these details had originated in the comics. You know, seeing as how the comics are the gospel as far as you're concerned.

 

[Heretic]

I would have hated it...heck, the toys are more "real" than the comics, and I hated Eco-Warriors and other nonsense like that.

I'm a purist. I want a military unit fighting a homegrown terrosist group. That shouldnt be too much to ask.

 

[Hotwire]

I would have hated it...heck, the toys are more "real" than the comics, and I hated Eco-Warriors and other nonsense like that.

I'm a purist. I want a military unit fighting a homegrown terrosist group. That shouldnt be too much to ask.

So you feel they should only use specific comic source material, which you presonaly approve of, to make this movie. Got it.