New G.I. Joe Details

[terry78]

Destro mind controlled? No. We're not doing that.

 

[cosmicherosa]

And ya KNOW that there will be some Destro death scene where his eye color reverts to his normal color....realizing that he is dying, and that he apoligizes for his sins. Blech, this movie blows and is very cliche on paper.

 

[shadowdog]

Nano suits? What? I thought GI Joe was about soldiers left to defend the world with only their wits and their guns to back them up. I don't want to see Snake Eyes doing some tired old Matrix jumpkicks and slowmotion crap-ola!
And why WHY WHY ON EARTH would they have Destro start the movie un-masked and end up being mind-controlled by Cobra Commander? Who cares why he's in the mask? He's an insanely evil villain bent on helping an organization of terrorists take over the world- do we really need to feel sorry for him or understand his human side?
I have totally lost all faith in this movie.
*preemptive Boo!*

 

[CorpusBlack]

All these details except the nanobomb sound like ****.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Destro mind controlled? No. We're not doing that.

QFMFT man. That's f'n bullsh**.

 

[Lex Luthor]

So is Cobra Commander Doctor Mindbender in this movie?

Apparently.

I believe I'm just going to start ignoring anymore Joe news from now on. This is all just getting very depressing for my tastes.

 

[CorpusBlack]

Apparently.

I believe I'm just going to start ignoring anymore Joe news from now on. This is all just getting very depressing for my tastes.

Did any of these film makers actually watch the series or read the comics? It certainly doesn't ****ing seem that way. **** Sommers.

 

[shadowdog]

Once again, another Movie that will be ruined by a handful of ridiculous artistic liberties the writers, producers and directors didn't have to take.
ughh, seriously, I have nothing good left to say or even think about this movie

 

[Heretic]

This movie has become such a travesty to my now raped childhood that I'm no longer angry when I see new info like this. I know the movie will be horrid...Street Fighter horrid...so I'm just going to play it for laughs as much as possible.

 

[CorpusBlack]

So how long until they reboot the series?

 

[Heretic]

Hopefully never. I grew up wishing that they would make a Joe film. Even as a kid I had no interest in a goofy, cartoon version of the military team that I waged plastic battles with in my (girlfriend-less) bedroom. especially now that just about every Joe fan is an adult, they could have made an epic war movie with ninja stuff and great characters and the relevant theme of terrorism and made us all proud of the military...but no...we get super suits and non-masks.

 

[nieman]

Thats the dumbest ish I've heard about this movie. Destro mind-controlled by Cobra Commander? I thought everyone loved Cobra because the different factions were Cobra affiliated, but operated on their own. Destro had Baroness and Mars, Zartan has his ragtag bunch the Dredknoks, only in it for the money, Mindbender was in it for the resources, they were all independent. No we got mind-control, stealth suits, a nano-bomb that would destroy technology....I thought Cobra Commander wants all the top technology so he can terrorize the world and control it, not destroy resources so he could rule a primitive planet. How hard is it to make a movie of a military faction of some of the best soldiers, so they can combat the biggest and most fearful terrorist organization the world has ever seen? Don't they do this in 24 every season?

You know, if they changed just the title of the movie and the characters names, you wouldn't even know it was GI Joe. It could be called something like Alpha Omega Force Soldiers or some weird ish like that and you'd never guess the source material. From what they talking, the only semi-questionable thing would be Snake Eyes, but I bet the way he turns out your won't be able to tell either. At least with Transformers if they changed everyone's names, you still would see that was Spike & Bumblebee, Prime, Jazz, Scorpnok & one of the cassettes

 

[mr. peasant]

Ironically, the 'mind controlled' plot line everyone is complaining is so 'left field' and 'not true to the comics' was actually lifted from the Marvel run of it.

 

[Kokoryu1]

Ironically, the 'mind controlled' plot line everyone is complaining is so 'left field' and 'not true to the comics' was actually lifted from the Marvel run of it.

The only person who was actually under mind control in the comics was Storm Shadow after he went to Trans Carpathia to rescue his student Billy (CC's son) and was captured, and even then it was done with Fenderbenders brainwave machine, not nanites.

 

[miltonh]

So G.I.Joe is filming in Prague but there was an accident today. 7 people injured (1 hard). Here.

 

[mr. peasant]

The only person who was actually under mind control in the comics was Storm Shadow after he went to Trans Carpathia to rescue his student Billy (CC's son) and was captured, and even then it was done with Fenderbenders brainwave machine, not nanites.

Actually, you're wrong. Destro, Baroness, Zartan, Billy and Storm Shadow were all brainwashed into serving Cobra after they cut their ties with the organization. As for the means to it, Destro and Zartan were mind controlled via brain implants. The use of nanites instead is to minimize the number of Maguffin devices being employed in the movie.

So G.I.Joe is filming in Prague but there was an accident today. 7 people injured (1 hard). Here.

That's sad to hear. Hopefully, they're not too badly injured. Anyone able to translate the article?

 

[Kokoryu1]

You we're right. It's been awhile since I read my comics, all stored in the basement (so my wife won't throw them out or call me childish), but I vaguely remembered those guys being brainwashed. So I looked and you were correct. But there were never any nanites. If they needed to brainwash folks and control them why not use the brainwave scanner?. Instead they concoct some crap about nanites. Even hypnotism would have been a preferable plot device.

 

[Mr. Credible]

You we're right. It's been awhile since I read my comics, all stored in the basement (so my wife won't throw them out or call me childish), but I vaguely remembered those guys being brainwashed. So I looked and you were correct. But there were never any nanites. If they needed to brainwash folks and control them why not use the brainwave scanner?. Instead they concoct some crap about nanites. Even hypnotism would have been a preferable plot device.

alright man, now you're complain just for the sake of it.

you complain that "brainwashing isn't in the comics", then, "okay, it is, but only for stormshadow", then, "oh, it is for all those other characters, too, but why nanites instead of implants or brainwave scanners?!"

cry me a river. nanites make more sense, from a sci fi point of view.

 

[Kokoryu1]

alright man, now you're complain just for the sake of it.

you complain that "brainwashing isn't in the comics", then, "okay, it is, but only for stormshadow", then, "oh, it is for all those other characters, too, but why nanites instead of implants or brainwave scanners?!"

cry me a river. nanites make more sense, from a sci fi point of view.

Not complaining so much as deriding a stupid concept.

Go back to reading your Sgt. Savage, G.I. Joe Extreme Comics and watching Naruto.

 

[The Avatar]

If Destro is going to be CC's mind slave then they might aswell cut his balls off.

 

[echostation]

hey the guy's got a point... i've never really read the comics and even though the plotline there about Destro being mind controlled sounds like total crap, if it was ripped straight from the comics then they're being true to the source material at least

 

[Kokoryu1]

With Cobra Commander not being Cobra Commander till the end of the movie, Baroness being his nanomite controlled sister and Destro getting a nanomite mask from CC/Dr.Mindbender/Rex to fix his burned face also at the end of the movie, they've already gotten way off the comic run. The mind contorl issue came AFTER Destro and Baroness had left Cobra and "retired". Commander decided he wanted Castle Destro back and attacked said castle and coincidentally caught them. He then brainwashed them.

 

[Kokoryu1]

Maybe because I'm a G.I Joe fan from 1982 and issue #1 and I still am 600+ figures, 100+ vehicles, 350+ comics (sans the Sgt. Savage, Extreme and Sigma 6 fiascos) and 26 years later. So for arguments sake I'll call myself a purist. I suppose I had slightly bigger hopes for this movie. Knowing the stories the way I do I guess can't fathom any real reason for such dramatic change. International Group? I can buy that, it's completley feasible. CC being a doctor instead of the fed up car salesman he was? and Baroness' brother to boot?. I can't condone. Duke and CC being best friends? Duke and Baroness being lovers? Garbage. About the only thing they have right is Destros' origin. So I hope I can be forgiven for expecting the studios to be true to the G.I. Joe Lore that most of us grew up with. How hard could it have been to translate a comic book to the screen without frakking it up? The whole terroism angle is even MORE relevant today than it was in 1982. Modernize don't unecessarily alter the story. If you change too many ingredients in a stew because you want to put your own spin on it you have changed the recipe on the whole. And by the posts I've read in here I am not the only one who feels this way. "Don't fix it if it ain't broke".

 

[Lex Luthor]

Yeah, one of the elements I thoroughly enjoyed in both the 1980's animated series, and the Marvel Comics, was the fact that Cobra as an organization, mirrored much like that of organized crime. In which there was much bickering, backstabbing, alliances, alliances broken, hidden agendas, assasination attempts, and even a civil war that at one time or another, errupting within the ranks of Cobra.
And is essentially why I always found myself more interested in what was going on within Cobra, than I was with what was transpiring within the ranks of the Joes.

Why? Because you simply never knew what was going to happen. And that was very entertaining to me. Sure, the whole brainwashing scenario did infact happen in the comics, which was basically a very easy way to get back to the basics, with certain key Cobra member's having defected to the Joes and all, or in Dr. Mindbender's case, simply turned on Cobra Commander following Serpentor's rise to power. But personally, I never found the brainwashing concept as interesting, nor as exciting compared to that of Cobra's previous portrayal.

 

[mr. peasant]

How hard could it have been to translate a comic book to the screen without frakking it up?

Actually, it is very, very, hard. First off, let's point out the obvious; the comic had hundreds of issues, spanning years to develop and fully flesh out great, complex subplots and histories for each of the major players. The movie, on the other hand, has between 90 to 180 minutes (though I'm betting it won't go much beyond 2 hours) to tell its story from start to finish, covering the central plot, introduce the major characters and all subplots. Then, there's the part where what works in comics doesn't necessarily translate well into other mediums, making it unwise to give a direct translation, especially given the different eras between the original and the adaptation where social norms and politics have changed.

"Don't fix it if it ain't broke".

That's very poor logic. Using that philosophy, things would never improve. Take for example, our internet connection. If we didn't try fixing things that weren't broken, we'd all still be using dial-up. Come to think about it, we wouldn't even have internet since we'd still be swinging from tree to tree, picking berries to eat. Considering monkeys haven't become extinct, it's clear that our pre-hominid ancestors' lifestyle clearly wasn't 'broken' and thus they shouldn't have 'fixed' it by evolving.