New Joe Fridays: Week 23

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Highlights:

~ Joe says that they are not planning to get a new creative team for Young Avengers even though we don't know when Heinberg will return.

~ Joe dances around questions dealing with members of the new New Warriors, Jubilee's repowerment, and the Incorrigible Hulk.

~ Addresses the trend of promoting the creative team over the stories.

~ Jeph Loeb stops by to talk about his sons scholarship fund and a rumor of the return of Nate Grey aka X-Man.

~ Archangel has been talked about a lot recently, but we'll have to wait and see what happens with him.
 
Woot! X-Man, too bad I wont be buying that piece of crap.
 
Ok I'm a little fed up with the crap of waiting on Heinberg, guy is a good writer and all but for Chrise sakes! barely a years worth of YA and Wonder Woman is only 3 issues in?!I could care less about WW, but why take on another book when he isn't even up to the task of writing a monthly Young Avengers?

Jim Cheung is as much a reason why YA is great, I'd take a good writer following Allen's plots anyday than wait for the dude to finish writing another episode of Gay's Anatomy on T.V.
 
most boring JF i've ever read. And i'm becoming less interested in YA every month *sigh*
 
It's kinda in Marvel's best interest to just find a good writer to work with Heinberg and script his plots.
 
Cheung's committed to his Illuminati miniseries right now, but if Heinberg's not ready when that project is finished, drop him and get someone else who is willing to meet a deadline.
 
No it's an easy fix, let Allen plot (Old Stan Lee Marvel system) and have another writer script it. Theres plenty writers who could do it and do it well Dan Slott,BKV,Robert Kirkman etc...and if Jim Cheung is behind why not have two regular artists? Cheung could switch out every four issues with a compatable artist.

It's not a matter of quality if you've got quality backup.
 
My comments:

- Yes, it is a slower JF's compared to some past weeks.

- The scheduling issues with Heinberg are no surprise. The man, no matter how good a writer he is or how "nice" a guy he is, is one of a long list of TV writers who sees comic writing as a "paid hobby" and the TV gig will always come first. Marvel & DC both are well aware of this and both have several late comics to attest because of this syndrome, but both will learn nothing and continue to sacrifice integrity, as well as keeping fans waiting, in the name of "getting them cool Hollywood kids to play with us". So it really isn't worth whining about. Could someone else write the YA? Probably. Zeb Wells certainly did fine. But I'm willing to wait a little, especially if it means some issues in the can before they see print.

- Joe Q brushing off the cover question, very classy.

- What is interesting is how he comments on how "Civil War is more about the event than specific creators" yet the ENTIRE EVENT was postponed because McNiven was behind and Marvel was deathly afraid of a dreaded "fill in" artist. Isn't that slowing down an entire industry-wide event for the sake of a creative team? So which is it, Joe? Eventually, you'll have to give a straight answer. While McNiven's art is pretty, I am sure that CW would have continued to chug along fine had they chosen a fill-in artist whose style wasn't dramatically different than McNiven's; I always thought McKone was close.

- The fact that Jubilee can be easily repowered just lays bare what a pathetic waste of time DECIMATION was. The entire thing was supposed to be some "putting progress back in the bottle" or whatever he called it by depowering most of Marvel's mutants, claiming there was too many of them. But, few characters at B list were effected, and those that were almost repowered immediately (Iceman, Polaris) and naturally Magneto & Xavier will have it eventually. New mutants still pop up out of the woodwork for plot convience. And any character who needs their powers back can get 'im - POOF! So what was the point? Negating a bunch of F and lower listers and no-names? Getting scared because someone might have wanted to take some idea of Morrison's and actually get it to work? I called the event spineless last year, and it still is. If no real character is effected much, what is the point? Most of the X-titles ignored it so they needed mini's and side titles (X-FACTOR, as much as people like it, is not a main X-title). Most of the main X-Titles ignored it the best they could and went into space. Say what you will about CIVIL WAR, at least it has some cajones. Perhaps to a fault.

And while we're on Thor, nice he never mentioned how the FF PRELUDE issues are basically a sham if the real Thor isn't in CW.

- I know I certainly never asked for X-MAN to return.
 
Mike McKone art is nothing like McNiven's, Jim Cheung comes closest to him.
 
I dont know, people act like Heinberg gave up on the title in the middle of a story arc. His 12 issues had a beginning, middle and an end. And you can say oh just have Zeb Wells write the book or someone else, but Heinberg made that book, I really cant see anyone else working on it, and frankly, wouldnt want anyone else to work on it.
 
With Comic cost these days, Some people can't afford to wait. Also, Some people are impatient. There's also the fact that some people stop caring as time goes by. I wanna know what happening to my favorite characters, and it makes no sense to me why people put up with this these days.
 
The way i see it Heinberg is Young Avengers, if he didnt come along, you know who was about to write that title? Bendis. So yes, im sorry for all the impatient folk, and I can relate, but id rather wait for Heinberg then get some other writer to do it.
 
and wait over a year? no. They should have given him a co-writer if he wanted to keep his day job so badly. Hell, deemar came up with the best ideas on what to do. It's the same thing with Wonder Woman for me. If you can't write the book, enough issues, and on time, DON'T TAKE IT. And honestly, I LIKE bendis. I LIKE new avengers, so with him, at least we have issues More or less on time.
 
Wonder Woman is a different situation though. Thats an ongoing, and his lateness is pretty much causing other titles to suffer as well as hes writing one of the big 3 for DC. A lack of Young Avengers isnt really affecting anything in the Marvel universe, they still pop up from time to time, Civil War, Captain America, the Winter Soldier one-shot. I hineslty see where youre coming from but id rather wait for him to gte some time to do it, of course my patience has a limit which is pretty much something has to be announced by summer of 07 and then ill join the get a new writer bandwagon, but if he finds the time and wants to do it, ill wait.
 
*sigh* I hate to say this, but only time will tell.
 
I have a feeling that Archangel will be joining the cast of Uncanny
 
yeah but we're half way through the arc. Brubaker has said he wanted to use Warren but didnt for practical reasons. With none of the other 2 writers racing to use him, I think its a pretty good bet, that he will use him. We might even see Warren start to appear towards the end of the current arc in a subplot to set up the next
 
COMICBOY said:
...they're in space:confused:
yeah but we're half way through the arc. Brubaker has said he wanted to use Warren but didnt for practical reasons. With none of the other 2 writers racing to use him, I think its a pretty good bet, that he will use him. We might even see Warren start to appear towards the end of the current arc in a subplot to set up the next
 
Archangel's a very difficult character to write for on a superteam, since his one power isn't really that unique or useful anymore.
 
CaptainCanada said:
Archangel's a very difficult character to write for on a superteam, since his one power isn't really that unique or useful anymore.


then you dont focus on the powers but the character....
 
roach said:
then you dont focus on the powers but the character....
I agree that character is important, but it is a "super" team, and having a character with such generic powers (who can't fly these days?) is somewhat limiting. Superteams fight people, and it's easy for him to become redundant (although, surprisingly, the Astonishing X-team doesn't have a single flight-capable member currently, which is very odd).
 

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