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http://www.newsarama.com/NewJoeFridays/NewJoeFridays17.html

The scoop:

-lots of preview art of Thunderbolts,Marvel-Ham,White Tiger,Modok

-Jan previews including Silent War which looks to be an FF Vs Inhumans story

-new USM artist someone the fans love,known for good storytelling on a monthly basis (this screams out JRJR to me)

-hints on some artists' next projects

-JQ confirms 2 new team books spinning out of CW that have YET to be announced

-an interesting CW cover entitled "The Return" which has the logo of
Captain Marvel
on the front
 
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Wanted to comment on one thing:

JQ: said:
To be honest, walking into a Spider-Man book with a married Peter Parker is more of a jolt to the system than his being unmasked.
No, it's not. I know you have a vendetta against any married character who wasn't hitched on your watch, Joey, but it's not a big deal.

Peter has been married to MJ in 616 since 1987, which is 19 years in real time. When SPIDER-MAN 3 hits theatres, it will be 20, as in AN ENTIRE GENERATION. A lot of us folks who are 25 or over even remember when that marriage was "new" and anyone who's read a Spidey comic from 1987 to present knows it. That's a MESSLOAD of people. In every SPIDER-MAN film so far, MJ has been the only woman in Peter's life and it is obvious he is devoted to her. In the 90's cartoon, which lasted 5 seasons from 1993-1998 and lived in reruns until this year, MJ is featured heavilly and they even marry there, too (even though it was just her hydro-clone. Ugh). In the MTV SPIDER-MAN series, Peter is again devoted to MJ. And, again, there have been 19 years worth of comics with them married.

In the real world, when two people are really devoted to each other as much as Peter and MJ are, they date, the go steady, get engaged, and eventually marry. Hell, a dumpload of people marry under far less stable circumstances. Most people, unlike you, Mr. Q, accept this as part of life.

What I find hilarious is Joe Q, in a preview FRIDAY, went up and down about how shameless a publicity stunt the Spider-Marriage was in 1987, like the all-knowing Oz. Well, then, what was the "Marriage of the Century" that was T'Challa and Ororo? Before BLACK PANTHER started gearing towards it, they barely met and interacted; they only had a back-up story from MTU #100, circa 1980, that had to be embellished and all but retconned in a recent mini. You have an exec from BET writing it. Besides both being black and from Africa, these two had almost nothing in common and no friendship until one was quickly created for them to get married within a few months real time. How is THIS not a publicity stunt!? At least Peter and MJ had met and dated for over a decade off and on in real time before they wed. What is your excuse for "Wedding of the Century" besides cheap sales?

Oh, that's right. You make no mistakes. That's why you won't admit that moving SUPREME POWER from MAX to MK to "get readers" failed, because it has. You also won't admit that relaunching IRON MAN has also failed, because IM now sells at the same level as it did in 2001, which was what seemingly sparked those relaunches.

But that's backtracking. No, I don't think it's as shocking for a "new" reader to know that Peter married his sweet-heart than knowing he unmasked, on national television, because he was manipulated by Iron Man during a Superhero Civil War.

But it was nice to see Joe acknowledge the "regular artist/creator" thing.
 
You know what? I was getting all burnt up about another Quesadilla hipocritical comment. Then I realized something, notice I said AGAIN. This is what he does, words are cheap. If he was a poster here it would be one of those obnoxious guys that everyone hates. So I'll just treat him like such and laugh at what he posts (says).:up:
 
Geez Dread,you really took that to heart.
 
GNR4Life said:
Geez Dread,you really took that to heart.
I did, didn't I? I always have. I just get tired of Joe Q's insistance that all that is wrong with the Spider-Man franchise begins and ends with his marriage, which is SO not true. He's gone on and on about this topic at length in the past so I felt like whining about it.

I also love how Joe Q completely missed or ignored the point made by the fan who complained why WWH couldn't be told in INCREDIBLE HULK and had to be done in a seperate mini. Because that's what a fan likes to see.

Not interested in the new Thunderbolts any more than I was in the old. Some of the other stuff looks okay. I'm really jazzed as to what Slott's new series may be. Still crossing my fingers for NEW WARRIORS. They have a lot to work for.
 
GNR4Life said:
-an interesting CW cover entitled "The Return" which has the logo of
Captain Marvel
on the front


:huh:

Where are you seeing that logo, because I see nothing but a blank white page with those Return and Civil War words on it?
 
Specter313 said:
:huh:

Where are you seeing that logo, because I see nothing but a blank white page with those Return and Civil War words on it?
The logo is light yellow on white background, so it may be hard to see depending on your moniter and eyes. It's there.
 
Dread said:
The logo is light yellow on white background, so it may be hard to see depending on your moniter and eyes. It's there.

Ok, I see it now, had to darken it down like a ***** to do it though.

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You know I usually agree with you Dread, but you're a bit wrong on the Panther/Storm thing. They were always shown as friends, such as that issue in Christopher Priest's run, where Storm travels to Wakanda in order to help Panther through a bit of a rough patch. They also kiss. I agree with the gimmicky nature of the marriage, but to say that there is absolutely NO precedent for it is simply untrue. They certainly could have handled it a lot better though.
 
Specter313 said:
Ok, I see it now, had to darken it down like a ***** to do it though.

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Really looking forward to it, wont get my hopes up though there are several people it could be:
Captain Marvel (Genis) If they decide to bring him back, he was pretty awesome though
His sister (forget her name, she was in annihilation) which, wouldnt really be that good.
Quasar, would be pretty good.. Hasnt been dead long but hes a cool character.
I hope its Genis though.
 
Harlekin said:
You know I usually agree with you Dread, but you're a bit wrong on the Panther/Storm thing. They were always shown as friends, such as that issue in Christopher Priest's run, where Storm travels to Wakanda in order to help Panther through a bit of a rough patch. They also kiss. I agree with the gimmicky nature of the marriage, but to say that there is absolutely NO precedent for it is simply untrue. They certainly could have handled it a lot better though.


My problem with this marriage is that it took Storm from one of the highest profile books where she was the leader and dumped her in a book that is barely getting by and could be cancelled anytime soon. The promise of the marriage was to bring Storm into the mainstream Marvel and make her more important....that did not happen
 
Didn't Quasar appear in Annihilation already?

Another popular guess is Nova,but really,why give us all the suspense if it's Nova?I know I'm not really holding my breath for him to come back and see how his team effed up.
 
Quasar appeared and died in the Nova mini-series leading up to Annihilation.

I'm really, really, sincerely, completely, earnestly hoping that the Captain Marvel who returns is anyone other than Mar-Vell. I'd love to see Phyla take over the mantle. I'd be a bit less enthused about Genis, since Niceiza's changes sucked and returning him to normal seems kind of pointless. I kind of think David already told Genis' story and he should be laid to rest. I guess I'd be all right with Quasar coming back and taking up the Captain Marvel name, although I don't see why he would, given that he's got his own name that's served him well for decades.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Quasar appeared and died in the Nova mini-series leading up to Annihilation.

I'm really, really, sincerely, completely, earnestly hoping that the Captain Marvel who returns is anyone other than Mar-Vell. I'd love to see Phyla take over the mantle. I'd be a bit less enthused about Genis, since Niceiza's changes sucked and returning him to normal seems kind of pointless. I kind of think David already told Genis' story and he should be laid to rest. I guess I'd be all right with Quasar coming back and taking up the Captain Marvel name, although I don't see why he would, given that he's got his own name that's served him well for decades.
I will be so pissed if it's Mar-Vell? Mavel can't even keep Bucky and Aunt May Dead. The only way it could be worse is if the new Marvel was Uncle Ben.:cmad:
 
I really hope they keep Mar-Vell dead. If anyone needs to take up that mantle, it might as well be Quasar.
 
Im REALLY looking forward to Silent War. It looks like a sequel of sorts to Son of M which I think was the best book of this year. Im looking forwad to Martinez and Hine working together again and I hope Pietro shows up
 
Kitsune said:
I will be so pissed if it's Mar-Vell? Mavel can't even keep Bucky and Aunt May Dead. The only way it could be worse is if the new Marvel was Uncle Ben.:cmad:


c'mon if Bucky is alive we might as well dig up everyone else
 
Hmm, I wonder what Osborn said/did to own Bullseye like that. Bullseye doesn't seem the type to cry like a *****.
 
SW has lots of potential.I just hope it isn't too far steeped in HOM because in that case I'm going to be lost.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Hmm, I wonder what Osborn said/did to own Bullseye like that. Bullseye doesn't seem the type to cry like a *****.
Seriously. On the badass-o-meter, I think Bullseye ranks way higher than Osborn, but people seem dead-set on making Norman out to be a major threat in anything CW-related.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Seriously. On the badass-o-meter, I think Bullseye ranks way higher than Osborn, but people seem dead-set on making Norman out to be a major threat in anything CW-related.

Agreed, Bullseye might not be as powerful or smart; but somehow he manages to be more dangerous IMO. Even Wonderman jobbed to Osborn, taken out by pumpkin bombs? Disgusting.

I think I'll pick this up, hopefully the dynamics will be good just because of the clash of characters; and I really have no problem of having a Suicide Squad rip-off :)
 

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